SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Is it Safe
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Is it Safe
On my new wide body 63 I notice there are huge spacers 3-4 inches wide on
the back.
I know the wheels have to fit the arches but with that width I imagine the
stress on the rear wheel bearings is enormous . I wasn't sure if the axles
were longer on a real Black.
S8.
the back.
I know the wheels have to fit the arches but with that width I imagine the
stress on the rear wheel bearings is enormous . I wasn't sure if the axles
were longer on a real Black.
S8.
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they should have used a correctly fitting wheel instead of compinsating with a spacer. I would take them off and make sure the bolts are the right length into the hub, but you can live with it or youll have to buy better wheels.
not going to make much difference to the car if the wheel is spaced out or if the wheel is wider
not going to make much difference to the car if the wheel is spaced out or if the wheel is wider
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youll have to get a wide wheel and tire, they use plenty of them with the wide bodies, check what these guys have used with their prior design kits and others. But you need it to have the best offset to sit correctly in the wheel well and not use a spacer ( I would guess about 13")
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Good question about the axel length though, because I know on a regular body SL car, the offsets can be different depending on the year. Not sure if it is due to body or axel difference.
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I told you about all this when you 1st asked what was the correct path to choose when you were pondering all the widebody possibilities, go back & read my old posts, but to answer Q quickly NO you're sitting on a ticking time-bomb just a matter of what? will fail 1st the spacers? or the wheels? due to new stress placed from such large spacers? Either way it can be a life altering accident for you & possible innocent victims in your path..
Yes the axles are longer on the real Blk Series..
Yes the axles are longer on the real Blk Series..
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I told you about all this when you 1st asked what was the correct path to choose when you were pondering all the widebody possibilities, go back & read my old posts, but to answer Q quickly NO you're sitting on a ticking time-bomb just a matter of what? will fail 1st the spacers? or the wheels? due to new stress placed from such large spacers? Either way it can be a life altering accident for you & possible innocent victims in your path..
Yes the axles are longer on the real Blk Series..
Yes the axles are longer on the real Blk Series..
what if you want spokes to be flat in line with the rim
you have touse spacers. To buy a wheel that will fit and be wide enough and to
your taste could take forever and cost a fortune. My spacers are 1" front
and just over 2 " back. Surely they can't be that dangerous, it has just
been to Mercedes and they never said a thing. Because you have a lot of
influence , and I am guided by your input I will change to a suitable wheel,
so any ideas on wheels .
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Thericker your road wheels don't look that concave, or deep dish, from the centre where the bolts are to the rim edge only looks about 3 inches, and when on your car they could come out 20mm or so to the body edge. Would you consider fitting thin spaces 10mm or so, these must be OK.
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Hi Thericker, sorry did not think about going back. This has opened a can of worms, I presume without spacers you need to buy a concave wheel, but
what if you want spokes to be flat in line with the rim you have to
use spacers. To buy a wheel that will fit and be wide enough and to
your taste could take forever and cost a fortune. My spacers are 1" front
and just over 2 " back. Surely they can't be that dangerous, it has just
been to Mercedes and they never said a thing. Because you have a lot of
influence , and I am guided by your input I will change to a suitable wheel,
so any ideas on wheels . S8.
what if you want spokes to be flat in line with the rim
you have touse spacers. To buy a wheel that will fit and be wide enough and to
your taste could take forever and cost a fortune. My spacers are 1" front
and just over 2 " back. Surely they can't be that dangerous, it has just
been to Mercedes and they never said a thing. Because you have a lot of
influence , and I am guided by your input I will change to a suitable wheel,
so any ideas on wheels .
S8.
vs the 3"-4" you previously noted were the major problem in your very 1st post??? I'm very confused on what the actual current size really is on your rear setup knowing this is integral to helping you solve your current issue Please measure w/an accredited perfectly working measuring device & we'll go from there..Edit: Wheel Concavity has absolutely nothing to do w/making your wheels fit better or not needing spacers, wheel fitment is ALL dependent on the amount of back spacing/off-sett, it is the amount of space the wheel manufacturer adds or detracts from the INSIDE of the wheel barrel, where it butts up to the hub/brakes etc... The Concave or lack of concave & the amount of lip on the wheel face is PURELY COSMETIC..
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Thericker I had only just got the car, and I took a stab at what size the spacers were, sorry I should have measured. Have you changed your mind
now they are smaller?
When I mean concave/deep dish I mean that the wheel centre has to be
further down and the rim allowing the wheel to fill the arch. On your wheels
the centre only seem 2 or 3 inches down on the rim, yet they fill the arch
more or less. There is a lot more wheel the other side of the hub.
The other problem is my wheel are 10.5 or 11 inches wide, will that take
325 or 345 tyres. Looking at wheel websites they don't give you enough
info especially with a wide body app. I like the wheel face to come out to
the edge of the car so when I saw spokes bending in I naturally presumed
that was to get the offset required to fill the wheel arch.
S8
now they are smaller?
When I mean concave/deep dish I mean that the wheel centre has to be
further down and the rim allowing the wheel to fill the arch. On your wheels
the centre only seem 2 or 3 inches down on the rim, yet they fill the arch
more or less. There is a lot more wheel the other side of the hub.
The other problem is my wheel are 10.5 or 11 inches wide, will that take
325 or 345 tyres. Looking at wheel websites they don't give you enough
info especially with a wide body app. I like the wheel face to come out to
the edge of the car so when I saw spokes bending in I naturally presumed
that was to get the offset required to fill the wheel arch.
S8
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you need to get the exact size of the wheels, maybe stamped on the inside, but 11 is not big enough for over 305 or 315max, the tires will puff out and look funny
whether the wheel is concave or not is just a style, first pick the size you need then look for wheels, they can make the wheel in a style and make it to the size you need
For a wide body car you need wide wheels and tires
whether the wheel is concave or not is just a style, first pick the size you need then look for wheels, they can make the wheel in a style and make it to the size you need
For a wide body car you need wide wheels and tires
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you need to get the exact size of the wheels, maybe stamped on the inside, but 11 is not big enough for over 305 or 315max, the tires will puff out and look funny
whether the wheel is concave or not is just a style, first pick the size you need then look for wheels, they can make the wheel in a style and make it to the size you need
For a wide body car you need wide wheels and tires
whether the wheel is concave or not is just a style, first pick the size you need then look for wheels, they can make the wheel in a style and make it to the size you need
For a wide body car you need wide wheels and tires
