Hello all can’t seem to find much online about diy oil changes... are there 2 drainplugs like on the 55 or just the 1? Thanks in advance also what do you guys run 0w-40 ? 8-9quarts

 

I watched the tech at my dealer use pump suction device down the dip stick tube to suck most oil out and replace filter and oil that way. I have a lift and when I got under there was a big aluminum plate needing to be removed before getting at the drain plug. So now I just use the fluid extractor I bought on amazon . takes a bout 30 min to suck all the oil out but much less messy......

 

I never changed my 63 but look for drain plugs, and let the car down to a street level and let it all drain well. Should be oil capacity on owners manual. Put that amount in and check with stick to make sure its correct

 

The dealer doesnt even drain from the oil pan, they just extract from the dip stick port like I mentioned above....they also mentioned too much trouble to remove the aluminum cross member to get at the oil plug..

 

all dealers do suction now, saves them time and trouble. But charges you more??

 

According to multitude of posts on the subject in W212AMG forum, (all) M157 engines' oil (regardless of which model) should be drained and not sucked out.

 

never heard that, they suctioned mine several times I think the m178 4.0L in a GT has to be drained

 

Official MB guidance is attached and says to drain.

 

Read W212 AMG forum (same engine as SL63). They ALL say to drain M157.

 

Ah? That is exactly what I said! To drain M157, not extract(suck out).

 

you are correct, I must have gotten cross-eyed reading late night

 

hmm ok I will start doing it the drain plug way !!!!!

 

Hello All,
I wanted to post the following as a helpful bit of information on how I have chosen to change the oil on my 2017 SL63 AMG. Others may choose to do things differently.
I'm a big fan of DIY oil changes and routine maintenance and have read the posts herein and elsewhere, regarding the recommended procedure for changing the oil on an M157 engine. I have also spoken to several techs at three MB dealerships here in the Northeast and here is what I learned:
There seems to be exactly zero difference between the oil system in my 2017 SL63 AMG (M157) engine, and that of the 2013 SL550 (M278) I owned previously. In the MB Oil Change PDF posted by another member, there is no mention of draining the oil cooler, in either engine, as a requirement or even as a recommendation during a routine oil change, so this seems to be an unnecessary concern and a non-issue, assuming oil changes are done regularly. The recommendation that the M157 engine oil is drained from the oil pan, as opposed to through evacuation, (which is the factory recommended procedure for changing the oil in an M278) is due to the serious and very valid concern of possible incomplete draining, and thus the potential for overfilling, thereafter. Apparently, the AMG wizards are very protective of their hand-built masterpieces.
At a large facility like a dealership, the oil evacuation is typically powered by a central system that may not allow close monitoring of the exact amount of oil removed from an individual vehicle. Also, adequate time is required for maximum oil return/drip-down. Incomplete removal through EITHER method, evacuation or drainage, and the subsequent refilling with the stated factory capacity, all but assures over-filling.
Assuming adequate time for oil return/drip-down has been allowed, properly done evacuation removes the same amount of oil as pulling the drain plug from the oil pan.
One MB Master Technician informed me that during factory training, oil pans were dropped and inspected following oil evacuation, and there was virtually no oil remaining in the pan. He also said that the concerns that any particulates would remain in the pan are unfounded, as any particles would be trapped within the filter, or suspended in the hot oil being extracted.
Armed with this knowledge, the solution to the DIY M157 oil change via extraction is, I think, pretty straightforward: CAREFULLY monitor both the amount of the oil removed, and the amount of the replacement oil, to avoid overfilling. The initial replacement amount should be approximately 0.5 quarts less than what is REMOVED, and NOT the stated capacity. I was able to remove just over 9.2 quarts of oil with my fluid evacuator. (Fill Spec is 9.4 quarts). I achieved this result by driving the car for 30 minutes and then allowing it to sit, engine off, for another 10 minutes, before beginning the process. 9 quarts of oil were extracted fairly quickly before air uptake broke the vacuum, and another .2 quarts followed after a 10-minute sandwich break. Loosened filter housing was removed to place a new Mann filter and O-ring and then re-torqued. I replaced the 0w40 Mobil 1, which had been in for approximately 4k miles, with 8.7 quarts of Amsoil 5w40 European Formula, and went for a spin around the block. Upon returning, I checked the oil level on the dipstick, and needed to add about a half quart more. Done! No unholy charge from the dealership, and more importantly, I know the job was done properly and with my preferred materials. Also, as an aside, I am thus far very impressed with the switch to Amsoil, and will probably switch over my ML400 and C-Class at next oil change(s). I look forward to your feedback.
Hope this was somewhat helpful!
Dr.VJM

 

nothing beats the additive packs in amsoil, always top notch

 

The dealer just sucks it out. There is not dip stick that you can measure the oil level. There is something that looks like a dip stick, but it isn't

 

Hello,
A brief update on the Amsoil switch: Had to add one quart of oil today, after approximately 1500 miles, having been alerted by onboard message in the gauge cluster, while out for a drive. Previously, I had needed to add a quart of Mobil 1 every 600-800miles. YMMV!

 

wow that amount of consumption seems a lot ?? But I dont do many wide open throttle acceleration bursts anymore !!

 

I actually thought that some oil consumption with a large bi-turbo engine was to be expected. Am I wrong? I might occasionally indulge in some WOT. Anyone with good info, please respond.
Dr. VJM

 

Are these the two oil drain plugs on a 2004 SL55 AMG?
THANKS!

 

Does anyone know the amount of oil to refill a 2014 SL65 takes after draining the old oil and replacing the filter? The owners manual says it's either 11.6 quarts if you have an oil cooler and 10.6 without the cooler. How do I ascertain if I have an oil cooler or not.

-Thanks in advance for any help/advice.

-Bob Oliveto

 

If you’ve already figured it out, then great, but if not, this is what the literature is saying…

You have an oil cooler. If you’ve drained the oil pan and cooler, it’s 11.6 quarts - pan only is 10.6 quarts.

 

dr vjm,
About the oil consumption issue, I can go 10 k on my sl63 and only have it drop a third between high and low marks......but I dont wot at all any more.....