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Old 08-03-2023, 05:29 PM
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two different leathers?? (pics)

anyone know what the difference is between the different leather in these pics?

ive been in the market for an SL63(15-19) and I've seen some which have the smooth grain leather throughout the interior, and there are others which have the smooth leather on the seats, armrests, steering wheel etc, but another grainier, rougher leather on the upper/lower dash and upper door panels.

i included pics of both kinds.

is the rougher, grainier one even real leather?

to me the smoother one is clearly the superior in terms of appearance and feel, so why would an SL63 which was top of the range even have anything else available?

the weird thing is i haven't been able to link it to any option. its not designo, because i've seen cars with designo leather that still had the rougher grain leather dash. and ive seen both types in earlier models(2013-2016) and also both types in the refresh models.

ive seen all black interiors with smooth grain throughout, and all black interiors with smooth/rough grain.


i think the same differences exist within the s class



anyone know why some sl63 have one type and some have the other and seems to be totally random or is there a reason?






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My 2014 SL65 has smooth leather throughout. In the build sheet it's called "exclusive leather".

What year is the car? I know that some cars had trouble with the leather coming loose in places especially on the dash. It seems to be a bigger problem with the more supple exclusive leather. I just fixed the dash on my car.

I wonder if it's possible that MB repaired it under warranty with a different leather? I have looked for interior parts with exclusive leather and many are no longer available.
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If you have not done so I recommend you look at the MB brochures for the year cars you are looking at. They are online at auto-brochures.com. There are in some cases three different leather options. For example the post facelift SL65 came standard with AMG Exclusive Nappa Leather but mine has the optional AMG Designo Exclusive Nappa Leather. The post facelift SL63 has as standard AMG Nappa Leather, optional is AMG Designo Exclusive Nappa Leather.
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im not talking about a specific car. im still in the market for one. but im talking about any sl63 from 2013 -2019. ive seen both the full nappa leather in all years both pre facelift and post facelift. so it doesnt matter which year.

but i was just looking at one which was a 2018 which didnt have the smooth (nappa) leather on the dash, so i turned it down.

but the sales guy said it had every option except ceramic brakes.??

which i dont understand because i know there are 2018 sl63's out there with nappa leather throughout the interior.


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the guy above sort of answered my question. i think its called "exclusive nappa leather"
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the guy above sort of answered my question. i think its called "exclusive nappa leather"
I don't have the original build sheet for my car, but here's what a VIN decoder build sheet says:
"EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE (501A)"
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I don't have the original build sheet for my car, but here's what a VIN decoder build sheet says:
"EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE (501A)"
yeah I don’t know if it would be the same option codes for the sl63 and sl65 ?
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The SL65 has the AMG Nappa Exclusive leather standard, The upgrade option is the AMG Designo version. All SL65's in the US have the smooth leather.
The SL63 came standard with just Nappa leather, the rough pebbly grain. In early years of R231 production it was possible to add the LEA-AMG exclusive leather option. In later years and all post-facelift S63's the only upgrade offered in the US for the SL63 was the full Designo trim, shown as the X10, X17 etc options on the build sheet posted above.
When I was looking for and purchasing my SL65 in June, 2018 I saw quite a few at dealers around SoCal. Three out of four SL65's had the designo interior, all had the same smooth leather with diamond pattern stitching. The opposite was true for the SL63's I saw at the dealers. Three out of four had the standard pebbly interior, suggesting that upgrade will be harder to find. Unrelated, but not one of those new SL65's had carbon ceramic brakes.
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The SL65 has the AMG Nappa Exclusive leather standard, The upgrade option is the AMG Designo version. All SL65's in the US have the smooth leather.
The SL63 came standard with just Nappa leather, the rough pebbly grain. In early years of R231 production it was possible to add the LEA-AMG exclusive leather option. In later years and all post-facelift S63's the only upgrade offered in the US for the SL63 was the full Designo trim, shown as the X10, X17 etc options on the build sheet posted above.
When I was looking for and purchasing my SL65 in June, 2018 I saw quite a few at dealers around SoCal. Three out of four SL65's had the designo interior, all had the same smooth leather with diamond pattern stitching. The opposite was true for the SL63's I saw at the dealers. Three out of four had the standard pebbly interior, suggesting that upgrade will be harder to find. Unrelated, but not one of those new SL65's had carbon ceramic brakes.
my post is only about the SL63 not the SL65.

you CAN get the full nappa leather (exclusive) on the sl63 as well, either pre facelift OR post facelift.

it was available on both. i know because there are currently ones for sale in canada with both FULL nappa leather (dash, doors) AND standard nappa, with the rough, non nappa leather on dash, doors etc. andfd they are BOTH on BOTH pre and post facelift cars.

so Im not sure about the US but what you're saying doesnt apply where i live.(canada)
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Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
The SL65 has the AMG Nappa Exclusive leather standard, The upgrade option is the AMG Designo version. All SL65's in the US have the smooth leather.
The SL63 came standard with just Nappa leather, the rough pebbly grain. In early years of R231 production it was possible to add the LEA-AMG exclusive leather option. In later years and all post-facelift S63's the only upgrade offered in the US for the SL63 was the full Designo trim, shown as the X10, X17 etc options on the build sheet posted above.
When I was looking for and purchasing my SL65 in June, 2018 I saw quite a few at dealers around SoCal. Three out of four SL65's had the designo interior, all had the same smooth leather with diamond pattern stitching. The opposite was true for the SL63's I saw at the dealers. Three out of four had the standard pebbly interior, suggesting that upgrade will be harder to find. Unrelated, but not one of those new SL65's had carbon ceramic brakes.

coincidently i just put a deposit on a used SL65. LOL

got tired of wafting for an SL63 and the SL65 was the exact spec i wanted black on black and of course has the exclusive nappa leather standard.

do you still have yours? how have you liked it?


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Originally Posted by jmattioni
I don't have the original build sheet for my car, but here's what a VIN decoder build sheet says:
"EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE (501A)"
hi guys
who can please do a vin decoder for my car
i wanna be sure if its an amg line or not
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Congratulations on your purchase, mainly! I hope you like it as much as I like mine. Its the opposite of yours, Arctic white over Designo Platinum white. I was going to wrap it but came to like the white exterior. The best thing I did was toss the Conti 5P's and put on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires with wider 295-35-20's on the rear. The car drives much nicer and the 295-35 PS4S tires eliminated the frequent traction control engagement I was getting with the Conti 5P's. The SL65 is a fantastic car, love the exhaust sounds in S+. We live in different environments so your driving season may be a little shorter than mine.
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Congratulations on your purchase, mainly! I hope you like it as much as I like mine. Its the opposite of yours, Arctic white over Designo Platinum white. I was going to wrap it but came to like the white exterior. The best thing I did was toss the Conti 5P's and put on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires with wider 295-35-20's on the rear. The car drives much nicer and the 295-35 PS4S tires eliminated the frequent traction control engagement I was getting with the Conti 5P's. The SL65 is a fantastic car, love the exhaust sounds in S+. We live in different environments so your driving season may be a little shorter than mine.
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@mainly I noticed something on the build sheet that could explain the difference. There's two separate codes on the build sheet for interior leather. Here's the codes:
500A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER TRIM
501A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE

It may be that if a car doesn't have both codes then it will have the "pebbly" trim?
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@mainly I noticed something on the build sheet that could explain the difference. There's two separate codes on the build sheet for interior leather. Here's the codes:
500A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER TRIM
501A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE

It may be that if a car doesn't have both codes then it will have the "pebbly" trim?
yeah perhaps. its too bad that the wording in the codes leaves you with absolutely no idea what they're referring to. lol

im thinking the 500A is the one that gives you the nappa leather everywhere and the 501A is what every car gets standard.?
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yeah perhaps. its too bad that the wording in the codes leaves you with absolutely no idea what they're referring to. lol

im thinking the 500A is the one that gives you the nappa leather everywhere and the 501A is what every car gets standard.?
No, you'll find both of those codes on a single car. My guess is if the 500A code is missing you get the pebbly leather for the trim. The first digit would change depending on the color.
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yes. that's basically what i was saying.
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You guys are on the right track, not sure about exactly what does what on an SL63. Back in March 2018 I sat at the dealer and custom built an SL65 order. Unfortunately by the time it got to Germany SL65 production was ceased, no more could be ordered. I ended up finding what I wanted in June on a dealers lot, it was just missing the carbon ceramic brakes.
When we were entering the build and option codes I wanted X30, Designo Platinum white, and W26, Bamboo wood trim. The dealer also checked 501A black/Anthracite. He told me if that package was not also checked the order would not pass QC prior to going to Germany. The best he could explain was it added certain necessary trim pieces in the correct leather and color, the X30 was additive to that code and put the Platinum white leather in the places it belonged. For example one common non designo standard interior for the SL65 has brown leather on the dash and door panels. All Designo options have black in those places.
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