is it true? No 6.3 engine in the SLK?
03-04-2006, 01:47 AM
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is it true? No 6.3 engine in the SLK?
but the CLK 63 sounds impressive 0-100km = 4.6 sec.
ABC suspension! total comfort , F1 paddles on the sides instead of buttons...
max rev. 7200 , damn! that sounds great!
CLK 63 vs M3 E90(92) V8
let the fight begin!
ABC suspension! total comfort , F1 paddles on the sides instead of buttons...
max rev. 7200 , damn! that sounds great!
CLK 63 vs M3 E90(92) V8
let the fight begin!
03-04-2006, 09:09 AM
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Nobody. Knows. For. Sure.
I say, stop racking your head about it and just let things come along if they will. Holding ones breath just makes your head explode
I say, stop racking your head about it and just let things come along if they will. Holding ones breath just makes your head explode
03-04-2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinigami
Nobody. Knows. For. Sure.
I say, stop racking your head about it and just let things come along if they will. Holding ones breath just makes your head explode
I say, stop racking your head about it and just let things come along if they will. Holding ones breath just makes your head explode
You are right!
03-04-2006, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG&AMG
but the CLK 63 sounds impressive 0-100km = 4.6 sec.
ABC suspension! total comfort , F1 paddles on the sides instead of buttons...
max rev. 7200 , damn! that sounds great!
CLK 63 vs M3 E90(92) V8
let the fight begin!
ABC suspension! total comfort , F1 paddles on the sides instead of buttons...
max rev. 7200 , damn! that sounds great!
CLK 63 vs M3 E90(92) V8
let the fight begin!
03-08-2006, 04:03 AM
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My dealer says "no"
I asked my dealer about it and he says that the car is too small to handle the torque of a 6.3. He says that it is barely handling the 5.5 engine and that a 6.3 would cause major problems during turns as the car will lose control due to the power.
I don't pretend to fully understand his rationale. Just reporting what he told me yesterday.
I don't pretend to fully understand his rationale. Just reporting what he told me yesterday.
03-08-2006, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
I asked my dealer about it and he says that the car is too small to handle the torque of a 6.3. He says that it is barely handling the 5.5 engine and that a 6.3 would cause major problems during turns as the car will lose control due to the power...
I guess he needs to call Kleeman and tell them to stop offering the SC for the SLK55. 
03-08-2006, 08:46 AM
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I'm working for DaimlerChrysler Switzerland (mercedes-Benz distribution department) and in fact AMG isn't sore if they will putt the 6.3 engine in the R171. Fact is that in 2006 the SLK55 will be available until spring 2007 and there may be a change to the SLK63 AMG. I got this info directly from our AMG specialist!
So no def. yes or no! Omnipotents point is one reason that there will not be a 6.3 engine in 2006.
So no def. yes or no! Omnipotents point is one reason that there will not be a 6.3 engine in 2006.
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03-08-2006, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Teck
I'm working for DaimlerChrysler Switzerland (mercedes-Benz distribution department) and in fact AMG isn't sore if they will putt the 6.3 engine in the R171. Fact is that in 2006 the SLK55 will be available until spring 2007 and there may be a change to the SLK63 AMG. I got this info directly from our AMG specialist!
So no def. yes or no! Omnipotents point is one reason that there will not be a 6.3 engine in 2006.
So no def. yes or no! Omnipotents point is one reason that there will not be a 6.3 engine in 2006.
03-08-2006, 09:23 AM
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03-08-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
I asked my dealer about it and he says that the car is too small to handle the torque of a 6.3. He says that it is barely handling the 5.5 engine and that a 6.3 would cause major problems during turns as the car will lose control due to the power.
Originally Posted by Teck
Omnipotents point is one reason that there will not be a 6.3 engine in 2006.
There is a market eagerly awaiting the SLK63. MB should provide products that meet the needs of the market.
03-09-2006, 12:34 AM
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Fingers crossed ...
With respect to Omnipotent's "dealer says no" claim. That was excatly what they said about the convertable, I bought into that, and we can see that was a mistake.
With respect to Teck's "AMG has not decided" claim, this coincides with an interview I read somewhere with a named senior AMG official.
I for one intend to let my dealer know that my going ahead and buying the SLK I have on order depends on it having the 63 engine and I intend to be very vocal about the same when I attend AMG Challenge events (supposed to be announced for here in the US later this month, and I plan to go to a regular skill-level event in So. Cal. as well as a graduate-level event else where this year).
FYI, the AMG Challenge is not cheap but it is still good value. It is fun and it does get one next to AMG officials in the know.
With respect to Teck's "AMG has not decided" claim, this coincides with an interview I read somewhere with a named senior AMG official.
I for one intend to let my dealer know that my going ahead and buying the SLK I have on order depends on it having the 63 engine and I intend to be very vocal about the same when I attend AMG Challenge events (supposed to be announced for here in the US later this month, and I plan to go to a regular skill-level event in So. Cal. as well as a graduate-level event else where this year).
FYI, the AMG Challenge is not cheap but it is still good value. It is fun and it does get one next to AMG officials in the know.
03-09-2006, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
Thanks Teck.
On another note, how far are you from Geneva?
On another note, how far are you from Geneva?
I wanted to go last Friday but there was a snow storm and I do not have the best car for snow storms. This Week I'm alone at the office so maybe I go on Sunday but that's not for sure!
03-09-2006, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rroberts
With respect to Teck's "AMG has not decided" claim, this coincides with an interview I read somewhere with a named senior AMG official.
What I have posted are official statement which our dealers give their customers. Maybe AMG has already decided what they want to do with the SLK63 but they haven't given an official statement!
There are member who know me very well maybe you ask them if I talk trash!
03-09-2006, 02:22 AM
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OK I talked to the head of product management this morning and he said there will be NO SLK63 AMG in 2006 nor in 2007. The SLK55 has a stong enough engine and it's not planed to putt the 6.3 engine into an SLK!
Latest official statement from AMG Afalterbach!
Too bad but I still hope they will build one!
Latest official statement from AMG Afalterbach!
Too bad but I still hope they will build one!
03-09-2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Teck
250 KM I wanted to go last Friday but there was a snow storm and I do not have the best car for snow storms. This Week I'm alone at the office so maybe I go on Sunday but that's not for sure!
I wanted to go last Friday but there was a snow storm and I do not have the best car for snow storms. This Week I'm alone at the office so maybe I go on Sunday but that's not for sure! I for one have never thought that the SLK would get the 6.3 motor right away -- that is a big motor, and the 5.5SC does work quite well in the car as it is.
03-09-2006, 01:03 PM
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Thank you sir, but no more power please?
Well no thank you, please stuff the SLK full of power, use the glove box if required. Please turn this into a monster in sheep's clothing.
Well no thank you, please stuff the SLK full of power, use the glove box if required. Please turn this into a monster in sheep's clothing.
03-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
I asked my dealer about it and he says that the car is too small to handle the torque of a 6.3. He says that it is barely handling the 5.5 engine and that a 6.3 would cause major problems during turns as the car will lose control due to the power.
I don't pretend to fully understand his rationale. Just reporting what he told me yesterday.
I don't pretend to fully understand his rationale. Just reporting what he told me yesterday.
It has been reported by people that the old SLK was not really built for a +300hp engine, but it does work with one. Even Brabus bolted in a very large engine gaining 450hp in the process, and the car is just fine.
People have been tuning the new SLK's engine to roughly 600hp for almost a year now, and the car holds together just fine. I think your dealer is just clueless and is feeding you some story based on their personal opinion, not facts.
However, it is true the 6.2 liter engine does develope more torque, and this is reaching the limits of the 7G gearbox. But isn't the new CLK being delivered with the 63 engine and a 7 speed? Admittedly, it's been detuned to 480hp, but still...
Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath. Just enjoy the car, and if you can wait, hold out. Who knows, the 63 might come out end of 2007, maybe in 2008. I have a hunch it will. But if it doesn't come out in the R171, it might come out in the R172
03-09-2006, 06:03 PM
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The reasons are 2 and simple.
Logistics: It is eraser and cheaper to gradually phase in a new engine and not release it acoss the entire line.
Marketing: The SLK is new and still selling briskly. The CLK is older and sales are slowing so the 63 will pump up sales for it but wouldn't add substantially to the SLK.
Logistics: It is eraser and cheaper to gradually phase in a new engine and not release it acoss the entire line.
Marketing: The SLK is new and still selling briskly. The CLK is older and sales are slowing so the 63 will pump up sales for it but wouldn't add substantially to the SLK.
03-10-2006, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rdk
Teck,
When will the S 63 be released and what will the hp be?
When will the S 63 be released and what will the hp be?
But the 6.3 engine produces 510hp and 630 NM torque
03-10-2006, 03:33 AM
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The new AMG V8 won't go into the SL, new S and CL until the turbo version is ready late 2007. The turbo 6.3L will have around 570hp and the "65" cars will get a boost to 650hp.
The SLK will get the 6.3L V8, but only when facelift time comes, with around 440-460hp. Until then the current 5.5L n/a motor may get a slight power increase to like 375-380hp.
We all know a Mercedes goes anywhere from 3-4 years before a FL, so that means 2005, 2006, 2007 no, but for either the 2008 or 2009 model year the SLK55 will become the SLK63. This will likely be timed along with the next generation C63 AMG. We also know Mercedes doesn't build an engine for just one vehicle for long. Since the C55 is due for replacement that means the SLK55 isn't going to keep the 5.5L V8 long after the current C55 goes out of production sometime late this year or early next year, depending on when MB introduces the next generation C-Class.
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The SLK will get the 6.3L V8, but only when facelift time comes, with around 440-460hp. Until then the current 5.5L n/a motor may get a slight power increase to like 375-380hp.
We all know a Mercedes goes anywhere from 3-4 years before a FL, so that means 2005, 2006, 2007 no, but for either the 2008 or 2009 model year the SLK55 will become the SLK63. This will likely be timed along with the next generation C63 AMG. We also know Mercedes doesn't build an engine for just one vehicle for long. Since the C55 is due for replacement that means the SLK55 isn't going to keep the 5.5L V8 long after the current C55 goes out of production sometime late this year or early next year, depending on when MB introduces the next generation C-Class.
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03-10-2006, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
The new AMG V8 won't go into the SL, new S and CL until the turbo version is ready late 2007. The turbo 6.3L will have around 570hp and the "65" cars will get a boost to 650hp.
Originally Posted by Germancar1
The SLK will get the 6.3L V8, but only when facelift time comes, with around 440-460hp. Until then the current 5.5L n/a motor may get a slight power increase to like 375-380hp.
We all know a Mercedes goes anywhere from 3-4 years before a FL, so that means 2005, 2006, 2007 no, but for either the 2008 or 2009 model year the SLK55 will become the SLK63.
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03-10-2006, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
Well part of it is just looking at Mercedes history and some of it can be gleamed from recent interviews of AMG/MB officials.
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