SLS/R197/C197 AMG: My SLS BS has arrived
09-25-2013, 07:41 PM
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Man Jim you literally have a series of Black Series cars! This is the best of the lot visually IMHO thus far.
Enjoy.
Enjoy.
10-05-2013, 01:29 PM
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I just spent two days in the car at Hockenheim with AMG Academy and here are my impressions:
1. Car seems more planted than regular SLS with a more direct feel to road. You sit lower and the car has a wider more direct feel.
2. The best improvement in the car over SLS/SLS GT are shift times which are pretty close to a SLS GT3 feel and engagement. Very fast shifting response.
3. The Michelins which come as OEM on Euro cars are great. Takes very little to get temp into them and keep temp in them. They held up very well over two days of very hard driving as Hockenheim is very hard on tires/brakes.
4. Overheating of brakes -one issue that did arise is that the brake fluid began to overheat. There was fad as temps rose so if own one and are tracking the car, keep an eye on this. Pad wear was an issue as well. I need to point out that Hockeheim is VERY hard on brakes so this would impact overall performance of brakes.
5. Overall this is one mean package. Fast, direct and a blast to drive.
Here are some vids...will do proper post later on when I get pics and in-car videos from AMG
Dave
1. Car seems more planted than regular SLS with a more direct feel to road. You sit lower and the car has a wider more direct feel.
2. The best improvement in the car over SLS/SLS GT are shift times which are pretty close to a SLS GT3 feel and engagement. Very fast shifting response.
3. The Michelins which come as OEM on Euro cars are great. Takes very little to get temp into them and keep temp in them. They held up very well over two days of very hard driving as Hockenheim is very hard on tires/brakes.
4. Overheating of brakes -one issue that did arise is that the brake fluid began to overheat. There was fad as temps rose so if own one and are tracking the car, keep an eye on this. Pad wear was an issue as well. I need to point out that Hockeheim is VERY hard on brakes so this would impact overall performance of brakes.
5. Overall this is one mean package. Fast, direct and a blast to drive.
Here are some vids...will do proper post later on when I get pics and in-car videos from AMG
Dave
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10-06-2013, 07:29 AM
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Nice car Jim congrates
10-07-2013, 02:10 PM
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Incredible brakes, I am running the same carbon ceramic brakes on my C BS but the SLS ones are much better, I can only assume that it is due to the much lower curb weight of the SLS over the C BS. Interior quality is second to none, I would put it up there with an F car interior, every square inch is leather, carbon or alcantara including dash headliner and wall and door panels. As for speed my senses are skewed since my other two Black Series are making 790whp and 1000whp, the SLS just feels slow. The transmission on the SLS is absolutely amazing, lightening fast upshifts and downshifts, the TCU does less thinking and lets me put it into the gear I want when I want, as you know on the C BS sometimes the TCU has a mind of it's own and doesn't always put you where you need to be, the C BS TCU tries to anticipate your next move and is usually right about 90% of the time, the SLS does not really try to anticipate as much so you can be where you want in the revs pretty much 100% of the time. The matched rev program on the SLS is equally as impressive, faster and harder blips to coincide with faster downshifts and harder braking. Almost a perfect car IMO, I am very happy with my purchase. It's going to Wesitec this week for a 3.0L blower and should make about 800whp when they are done.
10-07-2013, 02:40 PM
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I recently saw one in person and have to say the amount of CF inside and out is staggering........
is there an extended carbon option on this or it's just the way it is?
is there an extended carbon option on this or it's just the way it is?
10-07-2013, 02:54 PM
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In North America all the CF is standard, in Europe and Australia the CF interior is an option and CF exterior is standard the way I understand it.
10-09-2013, 09:55 AM
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I am not that tall 5'10"-5'11"(I think I shrunk lol) but the headroom is still a little tight, especially with a helmet on. Let me rephrase, the area directly over head has decent room, however if I try to turn my head to look out the rear window or check blind spot 9 times out of 10 my head hits the center section where it drops down on the roof for the gull wing doors (kinda like a T-Top), the center section is a good 3 inches shorter than the area directly over head. That being said Scott over on PL owns one and he is crazy tall, like 6'7" or something and he claims hey can fit in his although I would have to see it to beleive it, it can't be a comfortable fit for him.
10-09-2013, 10:17 AM
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I am not that tall 5'10"-5'11"(I think I shrunk lol) but the headroom is still a little tight, especially with a helmet on. Let me rephrase, the area directly over head has decent room, however if I try to turn my head to look out the rear window or check blind spot 9 times out of 10 my head hits the center section where it drops down on the roof for the gull wing doors (kinda like a T-Top), the center section is a good 3 inches shorter than the area directly over head. That being said Scott over on PL owns one and he is crazy tall, like 6'7" or something and he claims hey can fit in his although I would have to see it to beleive it, it can't be a comfortable fit for him.
I am in 5-11" and even with helmet had zero headroom issues with BS. Now that may be up to bucket seats which are OEM on Euro cars as with other BS seats the DOT has not certified the Euro seats. The Euro seats are very deep and more like a racing seat (very little padding at all) and were on rails vs. power. I know there was the same issue with CLK Black and C Black where US customers had less head-room vs. Euro spec cars. This is true even in normal SLSs as I found the US version uncomfortable with full function seat in comparison to Euro spec car. I know AMG will not sell the Euro seats for US cars as many have tried so a good solution would be to do after-market seat like Pole Position on rails. Might resolve the issue.
You think seeing Scott getting into a SLS Black funny, you should see him when he is put into a SLS GT3. Now that is amazing to see!
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10-09-2013, 10:53 AM
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Jim,
I am in 5-11" and even with helmet had zero headroom issues with BS. Now that may be up to bucket seats which are OEM on Euro cars as with other BS seats the DOT has not certified the Euro seats. The Euro seats are very deep and more like a racing seat (very little padding at all) and were on rails vs. power. I know there was the same issue with CLK Black and C Black where US customers had less head-room vs. Euro spec cars. This is true even in normal SLSs as I found the US version uncomfortable with full function seat in comparison to Euro spec car. I know AMG will not sell the Euro seats for US cars as many have tried so a good solution would be to do after-market seat like Pole Position on rails. Might resolve the issue.
You think seeing Scott getting into a SLS Black funny, you should see him when he is put into a SLS GT3. Now that is amazing to see!
Dave
I am in 5-11" and even with helmet had zero headroom issues with BS. Now that may be up to bucket seats which are OEM on Euro cars as with other BS seats the DOT has not certified the Euro seats. The Euro seats are very deep and more like a racing seat (very little padding at all) and were on rails vs. power. I know there was the same issue with CLK Black and C Black where US customers had less head-room vs. Euro spec cars. This is true even in normal SLSs as I found the US version uncomfortable with full function seat in comparison to Euro spec car. I know AMG will not sell the Euro seats for US cars as many have tried so a good solution would be to do after-market seat like Pole Position on rails. Might resolve the issue.
You think seeing Scott getting into a SLS Black funny, you should see him when he is put into a SLS GT3. Now that is amazing to see!
Dave
10-11-2013, 12:40 PM
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