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Old 09-14-2011, 05:23 AM   #26
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Well Modoindustries that's great, the new SL is ugly, the SLS does not
come as convertible , and the SLS Roadster does not have the gull wings
to make it special just looks like an old SL ,so better keep the 63!!
I guess ugly people will always have an ugly taste
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it varies from model to model the price would be in between $180k to $210k
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I don't think the roadster will have any affect on the price as well. When I saw that the roadster had traditional door handles, that pretty much killed it for me.

I do think that the SLS BS will drive down the price. Early adopters of the SLS will most likely trade their car in for the BS.

Then, when an SLS is about $140k, I'll swoop in, lol.
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I don't think the roadster will have any affect on the price as well. When I saw that the roadster had traditional door handles, that pretty much killed it for me.

I do think that the SLS BS will drive down the price. Early adopters of the SLS will most likely trade their car in for the BS.

Then, when an SLS is about $140k, I'll swoop in, lol.
Just wrong on the view that the roadster will not affect prices of the gull wing coupe. You can now pick up a gull wing at at least $15K-$25K off what they were selling for just a year ago and with very few miles on the cars.

Two major reasons for many more coupes on the market: 1) ppl who originally bought the coupe and now with the roadster on the market, looking to trade up for latest and greatest and 2) there are a number of older folks who tired quickly with having to operate the gull wing doors.
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Just wrong on the view that the roadster will not affect prices of the gull wing coupe. You can now pick up a gull wing at at least $15K-$25K off what they were selling for just a year ago and with very few miles on the cars.
Considering the average optioned price of a SLS coupe back then was ~$210k, a loss of 7-12% makes it one of the least depreciating cars on the market and BY FAR the slowest depreciating AMG...EVER. On the other hand the roadsters have been going for under sticker from the get-go.
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Considering the average optioned price of a SLS coupe back then was ~$210k, a loss of 7-12% makes it one of the least depreciating cars on the market and BY FAR the slowest depreciating AMG...EVER. On the other hand the roadsters have been going for under sticker from the get-go.
Weren't many of the original coupes going for a premium over sticker which would mean higher than an average of $210K?

Agree with you on the view that the SLS has not depreciated all that much and as a guy who's in the market for one, loving the idea that I can pick one up with less than 1000 miles at a pretty solid discount
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SLS prices

There are clean and not abused under 10K miles SLS coupes for as low as
$ 159K now and about a dozen from 159-169K.

In a couple of years I anticipate picking up a 4 year old car near the 100-110K mark.

This means the car is anticipated to depreciate about 50 % or about $ 100K from average list price with nice options ($210-230K) in approximately 4 years from launch model year.

The right Astons and Bentley still hold slightly better, but not much......

The right Ferrari seems to hold the best with the high end sports/GT cars.....

Lambos lose pretty quick it seems......

They all drive great depending on the goal........
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Aston holds more value over time than MB?! I'm always amazed at how the bottom drops out on Astons just a year later.
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There are clean and not abused under 10K miles SLS coupes for as low as
$ 159K now and about a dozen from 159-169K.

In a couple of years I anticipate picking up a 4 year old car near the 100-110K mark.

This means the car is anticipated to depreciate about 50 % or about $ 100K from average list price with nice options ($210-230K) in approximately 4 years from launch model year.

The right Astons and Bentley still hold slightly better, but not much......

The right Ferrari seems to hold the best with the high end sports/GT cars.....

Lambos lose pretty quick it seems......

They all drive great depending on the goal........
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There are clean and not abused under 10K miles SLS coupes for as low as
$ 159K now and about a dozen from 159-169K.

In a couple of years I anticipate picking up a 4 year old car near the 100-110K mark.

This means the car is anticipated to depreciate about 50 % or about $ 100K from average list price with nice options ($210-230K) in approximately 4 years from launch model year.

The right Astons and Bentley still hold slightly better, but not much......

The right Ferrari seems to hold the best with the high end sports/GT cars.....

Lambos lose pretty quick it seems......

They all drive great depending on the goal........
I searched autotrader because of the higher ratio of dealer listed cars but there are probably more on cars.com, with some overlap.

$150-160k
I see a single SLS for $159k and it has 16000 miles and no options.

$160-170k
The next cheapest I see is a silver with 2k miles and no options for $168k.

That's two legitimate listings between $159-169k, both with no visible options (no B&O stereo, no carbon, etc).

$170-180k
I see three listings. Still mostly low mileage cars with no options except two appear to have carbon interior trim.

$180-190k
I see seven listings, two are 2012 models and the only option being a different rim. The 2011s are still low mileage, still few options save for carbon trim or B&O stereo. Both in one car.

Also, remember the base price of the 2012 went up $6k dollars to $189.5k

So you have a single SLS under $160, with 16000 miles, no options (originally would have been priced $183k) at nearly two years old. So 14% depreciation after almost two years on what appears to be the highest mileage SLS for sale in the US, nearly twice the mileage of the next "high mileage" car at 8573 miles.

I would say prices are holding up fairly well. I appreciate your optimism at finding a SLS for $100k in two years, but it's not going to happen unless it has 50k+ miles, has been in multiple accidents, or both.

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Optimism

We'll keep watching to see what really happens, but one good bet is that a 4 year old SLS will decline close to 75 - 100K...........also research other sites, i.e. search private sales, mannheim, dealers, cars.com to assimilate even more data on current pre-owned cars...........

Additionally, If a well built car has 50K miles, is a clean accident free car with good service history, and is a Mercedes SLS there would not be a big risk with buying one for $100- $ 120K with 50K miles or more..........as it is barely broken in....

It is amazing that people don't actually drive these cars (and other so-called collector/classics) any appreciable miles......... its like they are fine china ..........cars are meant to be driven not stared at, what's the point....

Truly is incredible that you can find Ferraris/Astons/Porsches/Lambos, etc....that are 5 years old with less than 10,000 miles on them........

After brief searches, I bought my last two pre-owned 4 year old very clean Porsches and a 2005 MB SL 65 a few years ago with super low miles that were in perfect shape and great values....50% or more depreciation already realized......

I once had a 4 year old 2000 E39 M5 with 45K miles that I bought used, drove for 4 years and bought for less than half price.......90K car for 40K.......basic maintenance and sold it for $35K........a less expensive car than a SLS, but the dynamics of depreciation are still the same........

In the end, I am optimistic in finding a good 4 year SLS with majority of depreciation realized....that I can actually drive a bit......
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It is amazing that people don't actually drive these cars (and other so-called collector/classics) any appreciable miles......... its like they are fine china ..........cars are meant to be driven not stared at, what's the point....

Truly is incredible that you can find Ferraris/Astons/Porsches/Lambos, etc....that are 5 years old with less than 10,000 miles on them........
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It is amazing that people don't actually drive these cars (and other so-called collector/classics) any appreciable miles......... its like they are fine china ..........cars are meant to be driven not stared at, what's the point....

Truly is incredible that you can find Ferraris/Astons/Porsches/Lambos, etc....that are 5 years old with less than 10,000 miles on them........
I believe you'll find quite a few SLS owners that drive their cars regularly...they just aren't selling them. I know I'm going to be one of them.

Most of these sub-2000 mile cars are from people who didn't know what they were getting into. Gullwing doors are hard on the inflexible and old. And the typical soft and cushy Mercedes flagship buyer got a rude awakening the first time they hit an expansion joint or gave it a boot-full of throttle.

The firmness of the pricing is what made me order one instead of waiting a year or two for a used one. I can get a car I know hasn't been abused, has the options/color/rims I want, and full warranty for only ~10% more.

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Fantastic!!

Drive the heck out of it!!!

I drive my 65 everyday!!

Hopefully most SLS owners will do the same and not baby as a speculative investment..........

Most AMG folks drive their cars as they were meant to be driven.......except for Lindsay Lohan.....
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I believe you'll find quite a few SLS owners that drive their cars regularly...they just aren't selling them. I know I'm going to be one of them.Most of these sub-2000 mile cars are from people who didn't know what they were getting into. Gullwing doors are hard on the inflexible and old. And the typical soft and cushy Mercedes flagship buyer got a rude awakening the first time they hit an expansion joint or gave it a boot-full of throttle.
The firmness of the pricing is what made me order one instead of waiting a year or two for a used one. I can get a car I know hasn't been abused, has the options/color/rims I want, and full warranty for only ~10% more.
BINGO on the comment about ppl selling because of a bit of work with the doors for the senior crowd. I'm in the market for a slightly used SLS and that's at least the response I get from dealers as well.

I have my eyes on a couple cars with under 2000 miles and knocking $20K off the price and still w a nice long warranty period. A no lose proposition.
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A black/black SLS coupe just sold for $150,000 at a local auction in Southern California. Is that well below what they're going for? It has 4,000 miles on it and the 'catch' was that the locks weren't working so the original owner got a lawyer. Since then, MB replaced all the door locks, the keys, and the battery.
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A black/black SLS coupe just sold for $150,000 at a local auction in Southern California. Is that well below what they're going for? It has 4,000 miles on it and the 'catch' was that the locks weren't working so the original owner got a lawyer. Since then, MB replaced all the door locks, the keys, and the battery.
A lemon-law title then, California being one of the easiest states to get a car "lemon'd."
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A black/black SLS coupe just sold for $150,000 at a local auction in Southern California. Is that well below what they're going for? It has 4,000 miles on it and the 'catch' was that the locks weren't working so the original owner got a lawyer. Since then, MB replaced all the door locks, the keys, and the battery.
No longer $150K...see below. I assume this is the same car that's on eBay. In my view someone could pick up a great deal, because it would appear as if due to being a buy back, you would be the first owner and the problem appears to be fixed.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...ht_49620wt_948
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No longer $150K...see below. I assume this is the same car that's on eBay. In my view someone could pick up a great deal, because it would appear as if due to being a buy back, you would be the first owner and the problem appears to be fixed.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...ht_49620wt_948

Yep, a lemon buyback title. Be wary, some banks won't finance cars with a lemon title.
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Saw a clean title SLS this weekend with 30k on the OD, can be had for $140k.
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Saw a clean title SLS this weekend with 30k on the OD, can be had for $140k.
Someone enjoyed the hell out of that one. Good to hear. Probably one of the highest, if not the highest, mileage example in the country.
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Saw a clean title SLS this weekend with 30k on the OD, can be had for $140k.
30K?! Yikes
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Im working on the deal. If it falls thru I'll PM you the info.
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30K?! Yikes
Really?? 30k is nothing, you can easily put 250k on this engine with out skipping a beat.
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I find it amusing that people get worked up over mileage under 50k. That's nothing for a modern AMG, barely broken in really.

That's a great deal if the car is clean and has no issues.
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