RAFFIE55

Just bought a 1999 E55 and wanted to add H & R Springs. Anyone like or dislike them? Also has anyone changed the exhaust and was impressed by it?

SaMaS

I have H&R I like them ( you might need camber kit ) no reason of changing AMG exhaust since is free flow... if you want more sound do resonator delete olso you can x pipe mode at the same time ... hope it helps enjoy your car

RAFFIE55

Thanks. Where do you get X pipe from?

SaMaS

I think I bought same one from e-bay here ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T304-...13281270QQrdZ1 )

also here few pics of my x pipe setup ...

RAFFIE55

Thanks for the pictures. What is the purpose of puting the X pipe in? And does it make it louder or give more HP? If I leave the stock AMG muffler and just take out the resonators, how loud is it when you are crusing on the freeway and not getting on it? Because I kind of like the quietness on long drives.

Thanks
Raffi

jimmydagreek

Samas, resonator delete and X pipe, any gains in this or simply show??? Also, any issues with smog?

SaMaS

Hey guys, I like my exhaust note, comparing to stright pipes it's not louder but it does sound a bit different, I have video taken I might posted for you to hear it ... hp gains... I don't want to speculate on this, because I don't have dynos or track times before and after... I did dyno after x pipe if it helps and numbers were 320 RWHP and 321 RWTQ on DynoJet wich you know TQ reading is not accurate due to not able measure TQ on low rpms, hope it helps ... It's kind a hard to answer , what is good for one might not be good for another ...


P.S. the purpose of X pipe is to equolize exhaust pressure on each side of the engine, also HP gains are expected ...

jimmydagreek

and no problems with smog??? Maybe someone from Cali can answer...

SaMaS

you should be ok , as long as you keep your four cats and muffler ...

jimmydagreek

Thanks SaMaS and sorry to hijack your thread there Raffie!

Hey Raffie, you coming to the huge Rose Bowl meet on Saturday? If so, join us in the caravan from Granada Hills on Saturday morning. Let me know and welcome to the forums!

RAFFIE55

Thanks for the invite. However I have to go out of town this weekend for my sisters wedding.

Keep me posted on any other up coming event!

jimmydagreek

Will do and just keep you eye on the events section...

RAFFIE55

Hey thanks Samas for the pictures and info about the X pipe. I ordered it today. I will take the picture of your set up to a muffler shop and see if they can dupicate it.

RAFFIE55

Hey Guys,

I just did the x-pipe and removed the resonator. It sound a little louder. Do you know if the ECU has to readjust? I am not sure about HP. Hard to tell.

jimmydagreek

Raffie, who did the resonator delete for you??? I wanna hear your car! We're not that far from each other so let me know what you're up to this week during the evennings. Oh, are you going to the Santa Clarita thing on Thursday night???

RAFFIE55

It's called Golden Muffler in C.P. He's a one man shop. Did it on my lunch hour. Not sure about the Santa Clarita thing yet. You know have wife and kids. I will let you know for sure.

jimmydagreek

Cool, after I hear you car I will consider going to him. Let me know when you have a couple minutes to get together. Thanks!

RAFFIE55

Hello SaMas,

I did the delete resonator and Xpipe. I like the sound. Kind of reminds me of a vette sound. Triing to get my H & Rs put in as well. Do you know what # pads you used. The way my car sits right now I only have about 1.3" gap, so I am thinking to leave whatever pad is in as is. Cause just the springs should bring the tires even with the fender. Right? Also do you have pictures of your car somewhere?

jimmydagreek

Raffi, check out the pic in my sig. It's a bit hard to tell but I'm sitting on stock suspension and #1 pads. I originally had #3's but switched them out in my garage the other night (I have a spring compressor) and it lowered about a 1/2". If you're going to switch springs make sure to switch shocks as well because the stock shocks will bottom out with shorter springs. If you pick up your suspension I will do the swap out for you a lot cheaper than any suspension or wheel shop, just let me know. By the way, I had H&R sport springs and Bilstein Sport shocks on my last W210 and the ride was great!

RAFFIE55

So if I do H & Rs with #1pad F & B it will be good. I have a buddy with a tire shop and I am going to do the whole thing there. Thanks for the offer I will keep it in mind. Do you think I have #3 Pads with the Stock set up. Cause like I said I only have 1.3 Gap as it is.

jimmydagreek

With #1 pads and H&R sport springs you'll be sitting on the tire (no rub). You are probably on #3 pads by looking at your pics and that would be too high with the new springs. The spring pads only cost about $6-7 bucks a piece so I would go with #1's all around and the H&R/Bilstein combo!

Peter_02AMG

When you guy talke about "Pad" #1, 2.. what do you mean by using these pad?

thanks

jimmydagreek

These are spring pads that come in different thicknesses (#1 being the smallest) that sit on top of the spring. You can change the height of the car by changing the thickness of the spring pad...

xlr8tin

Where do you find these pads...what are the called. I bought some H&R springs a while back and I'm trying to get some Bilsteins, and talk about pads are new to me..( I don't know much on this topic to begin with)

jimmydagreek

You can get them at the dealer for about $7-8 bucks a piece. Here is the info:

Spring pads for W210
Front:
#1 (5mm) = 210 321 01 84
#2 (9mm) = 210 321 02 84
#3 (13mm) = 210 321 03 84
#4 (17mm) = 210 321 04 84
#5 (21mm) = 210 321 05 84

Rear:
#1 (5mm) = 210 325 01 84
#2 (9mm) = 210 325 02 84
#3 (13mm) = 210 325 03 84
#4 (17mm) = 210 325 04 84
#5 (21mm) = 210 325 04 84