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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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*** VRP HiFlow Exhaust Manifolds for M113 V8 ***

Ladies and Gentlemen:

VRP Tuning is proud to introduce HiFlow Exhaust Manifolds (HEM) for V8 Mercedes-Benz and AMG engines.

HEM features:

- Steel billet flanges for leak free seal and long life.
- 1800F HiTemp Ceramic Coating for Heat and Corrosion resistance
- Limited Lifetime Warranty
- Matched primary pipe diameters based upon HP output
- Easy installation that can be done by the owner or any shop.







- 27RWHP/22RWTQ gain on Kompressor engines




- 12-14RWHP/12-15RWTQ gain on Normally Aspirated engines.



HEMs are available for following applications:

2000 – 2006 S-Klass – AMG S55, AMG S55K, S430, S500
2000 – 2006 CL-Klass – CL500, AMG CL55, AMG CL55K
1999-2002 E-Klass - E430, AMG E55
2003-2006 E-Klass – E500, AMG E55
2006-2007 CLS-Klass – CLS500, AMG CLS55
2005-2007 AMG C55, AMG SLK55
2003-2007 SL500, AMG SL55
2003-2006 CLK500, AMG CLK55

To commemorate HEMs we are offering special introductory price until July 15th, 2008.

$1499
($300 off regular price of $1799)


To place an order please go to:

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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Vadim , I went to the page you link in your post, but it only shows the headers for the W211 and W209 nothing for the W210 E55 AMG....Are the ones for the SC engines the same as the ones for the NA engines? Does one have the change the downtubes? Cheers , Max
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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The website shows E55 W211 headers, you can place an order for those, just specify that which car you have in notes.

Over the weekend, we will have new options available.

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why these are so expensive? You can get headers or manifolds built for any domestic car for $200-$300. I think this is just madly over priced and ripping off Mercedes Benz owners! Looks like 800%-1000% profit because they fit a Mercedes! Explain to me why Doug Thorley can make headers for a 300C for 1/3 the price your asking for your manifolds? $663.00 Retail! You want to be a good vender to the people on this site..quit trying to rip us off!

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why these are so expensive? You can get headers or manifolds built for any domestic car for $200-$300. I think this is just madly over priced and ripping off Mercedes Benz owners! Looks like 800%-1000% profit because they fit a Mercedes! Explain to me why Doug Thorley can make headers for a 300C for 1/3 the price your asking for your manifolds? $663.00 Retail! You want to be a good vender to the people on this site..quit trying to rip us off!
I would imagine this to be due to economies of scale. There are many more people who will buy headers for domestic cars a la 300Cs, camaros, mustangs, etc., than there are those who will buy them for Mercedes vehicles. The lesser amount of units still needs to cover the costs of R&D, labor, maunfacturing, etc. and still make a profit for the company. Also, Kleeman headers are 3 grand so this seems to be a pretty good deal.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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I tend to disagree

These manifolds will fit all 430's and all 55's (N/A)...R&D? No more R&D is needed for these manifolds than a simple dyno to see if they increase power. The potential to sell a couple thousand of these is there if the price wasn't so outragous. Maybe this type of thinking.... is why Mercedes Benz owners get raked over the coals. To be honest...I don't think they're going to sell many of these for cars that are now in <$20k range. As far as Kleeman goes...if you really think $16K is right on target for their supercharger...be my guest. I think $8K MAX is what's it's worth...including a ECM upgrade. I promise you, you're looking at $100-$300 worth of metal and welding....with a 100% markup..these should be going for $300-$500 max!
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Originally Posted by Tacjam
These manifolds will fit all 430's and all 55's (N/A)...R&D? No more R&D is needed for these manifolds than a simple dyno to see if they increase power. The potential to sell a couple thousand of these is there if the price wasn't so outragous. Maybe this type of thinking.... is why Mercedes Benz owners get raked over the coals. To be honest...I don't think they're going to sell many of these for cars that are now in <$20k range. As far as Kleeman goes...if you really think $16K is right on target for their supercharger...be my guest. I think $8K MAX is what's it's worth...including a ECM upgrade. I promise you, you're looking at $100-$300 worth of metal and welding....with a 100% markup..these should be going for $300-$500 max!
First, I strongly disagree with your claim that VRP or any vendor could sell 1000's of sets of headers. I highly doubt they could give that many away. You have to realize that you and the other board members represent a negligible percentage of the buying public. The vast majority of Mercedes owners buy for the three pointed star, the luxury and the brand image, less buy for performance and even less who buy modify.
That being said, we should all be somewhat grateful that an established company had decided to construct performance parts for a w210 platform that Mercedes stopped manufacturing in 2002. While expensive, $1,500 is not $3,200 (i.e. Kleeman). Thus, if you don't like the price, i have two words of advice: Don't buy
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jordanst2
First, I strongly disagree with your claim that VRP or any vendor could sell 1000's of sets of headers. I highly doubt they could give that many away. You have to realize that you and the other board members represent a negligible percentage of the buying public. The vast majority of Mercedes owners buy for the three pointed star, the luxury and the brand image, less buy for performance and even less who buy modify.
That being said, we should all be somewhat grateful that an established company had decided to construct performance parts for a w210 platform that Mercedes stopped manufacturing in 2002. While expensive, $1,500 is not $3,200 (i.e. Kleeman). Thus, if you don't like the price, i have two words of advice: Don't buy
Defend these high markups if you want! Get ripped off if you want! You're right maybe thousands won't buy them. So that means we should get ripped off by these companies....look at those manifolds...your talking maybe (at most) $200 worth of metal, welding and labor! Just because I drive a Mercedes doesn't mean rip me off!! So you go ahead and pay 1000% markup!
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Originally Posted by Tacjam
These manifolds will fit all 430's and all 55's (N/A)...R&D? No more R&D is needed for these manifolds than a simple dyno to see if they increase power. The potential to sell a couple thousand of these is there if the price wasn't so outragous. Maybe this type of thinking.... is why Mercedes Benz owners get raked over the coals. To be honest...I don't think they're going to sell many of these for cars that are now in <$20k range. As far as Kleeman goes...if you really think $16K is right on target for their supercharger...be my guest. I think $8K MAX is what's it's worth...including a ECM upgrade. I promise you, you're looking at $100-$300 worth of metal and welding....with a 100% markup..these should be going for $300-$500 max!
You're dreamin' pal, my old 05' C6 Corvette had the works gears/exhaust/& more expensive Longtube Headers/hi-flo cats/ECU/TCU/ etc...
Point is, The Kook's long tubes alone cost $1800 alone install was another $700-800 Even shorty's were priced bet-$900-1150 sheet aint cheap even on a $50k Chevy.
Your quote "with a 100% markup..these should be going for $300-$500 max" would apply to AHHhhhhh KRAGENS part counter pure krap!
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jordanst2
First, I strongly disagree with your claim that VRP or any vendor could sell 1000's of sets of headers. I highly doubt they could give that many away. You have to realize that you and the other board members represent a negligible percentage of the buying public. The vast majority of Mercedes owners buy for the three pointed star, the luxury and the brand image, less buy for performance and even less who buy modify.
That being said, we should all be somewhat grateful that an established company had decided to construct performance parts for a w210 platform that Mercedes stopped manufacturing in 2002. While expensive, $1,500 is not $3,200 (i.e. Kleeman). Thus, if you don't like the price, i have two words of advice: Don't buy
While I do understand and agree with Jordan, but also see the point by Tacjam, ( though the figures are a bit exaggerated ). I am sure that VRP's cost is not based on " made in China " pricing, and based on everything I have heard about them, they seem top notch. Instead or debating what the cost should be, why dont the members that are seriously interested in these manifolds, line up and propose a lets say " ten order commitment " and approach Vadim with it, and ask him what he can do as to the price? I personally think that the $1799 is out of the question for shortys, not when I was offered $2000 including downtubes from Corey at Kleemann ! So would we have ten people ready to buy at ...lets say $1000 ????
No offense to Vadim, just trying to think of a constructive way to bring the price down a bit. I myself will buy at $1K.
Cheers. Max
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