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cm60k 12-07-2013 03:12 AM

Why Weistec not offered an upgrade parts for N/A M112s & M113s,

im sure soo many fans here want to unleash some power to their N/A Engines without supercharged..!-I-!

ZAYED,,

Strigoi 12-07-2013 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by cm60k (Post 5867286)
Why Weistec not offered an upgrade parts for N/A M112s & M113s,

im sure soo many fans here want to unleash some power to their N/A Engines without supercharged..!-I-!

ZAYED,,

There's not that much power to be made without supercharging.

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-07-2013 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Weistec (Post 5866951)
What is your goal with the car? There are many solutions out there that seem to work. It those who seek more power and reliability that come to us.

Either way the hard part of this is done which is designing, manufacturing, and testing. It is a matter of putting this package together to fit within the budget for those that are in the market. Let us know how we can help. We plan on updating this thread with detailed pictures and information on power soon. We are nearing the projects completion. Thank you.

Weistec Engineering

My goal is to have a supercharger fitted to my N/A E55 W210.


Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5867216)
Why would you route the intake to the right side of the engine bay when that spot will necessitate the relocation on the windshield and headlight fluid reservoir? I'd like to see a picture of the new location for the reservoirs.

+1


Originally Posted by Strigoi (Post 5867271)
How much is this complete kit actually going to cost (ballpark)? Money isn't an issue, but I don't want to drop $12,000 on a supercharger for a car that's worth maybe $8,000 on a really good day.

+1

snooozie 12-07-2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5867216)
Why would you route the intake to the right side of the engine bay when that spot will necessitate the relocation on the windshield and headlight fluid reservoir? I'd like to see a picture of the new location for the reservoirs.



BlownV8, I think you are on to something. The intake is right on the spot where the windshield reservoir is suppose to be located. I don't like the look of the intake sucking in air within the engine bay rather then getting air from outside. That makes the engine run hot:eek:


I am not trying to knock anyone and also not trying to cause any problems but I came across this thread in the W212 forum rather disturbing after reading it.....


https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...e-warning.html

Weistec 12-07-2013 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5867216)
Why would you route the intake to the right side of the engine bay when that spot will necessitate the relocation on the windshield and headlight fluid reservoir? I'd like to see a picture of the new location for the reservoirs.

Thank you for pointing this out BlownV8. As we said earlier, multiple chassis use the M113 engine which means there will be many variations in parts. In regard to the C55, the windshield washer reservoir is located behind the passenger strut which doesn't have an ill effect on the filter being ran in that area.

In terms of hot air, this is actually one of the best areas to place a filter. It is a high pressure area because cold air is trapped in the bumper dam, which ends up running to the filter.

We hope this helps.

Weistec Engineering

BlownV8 12-07-2013 11:31 PM

Do you route the air filter to the left side on the 210E kit so you don't have to relocate the reservoirs?

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-08-2013 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5868156)
Do you route the air filter to the left side on the 210E kit so you don't have to relocate the reservoirs?

+1

cm60k 12-08-2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Strigoi (Post 5867311)
There's not that much power to be made without supercharging.

Im so glad with a power i have without supercharging,,

of course; depends to the HP goal desired.....;)

ZAYED,,

cm60k 12-08-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5868156)
Do you route the air filter to the left side on the 210E kit so you don't have to relocate the reservoirs?

You may need or not need to relocate the coolant reservoir in W202/W208/W210, depend to the S/C spec.,

its a good area & more space to dig a supercharger there, like the HPS supercharger installation.....:rolleyes:

Attachment 273326

ZAYED,,

blackbenzz 12-08-2013 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by AMGSC (Post 5866826)
I only speak from a customer's perspective but it not so easy to fabricate all these additional components and the prices are reasonable if you do a comparison to supercharger only kits. Plus you get a standard tune that matches the 3 litre blower. Don't underestimate the difficulty of building your own kit. Many have tried and failed or never even gotten off the ground.
It will also end up looking like a hack job compared to the OEM fit and finish of the Weistec components.

I put the 55k kit on my NA 55 a longgg time ago and did it on my own in a couple weeks working on it once in a while. Using OEM parts so I don't see how anything could could have a more OEM fit and finish :rolf: Tuning has taken forever but it's making well over 600whp.

Originally Posted by AMGSC (Post 5863670)
My car is almost done. Going on the dyno tomorrow for final tuning!

Done yet? :nix:

AMGSC 12-08-2013 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by blackbenzz (Post 5868882)
I put the 55k kit on my NA 55 a longgg time ago and did it on my own in a couple weeks working on it once in a while. Using OEM parts so I don't see how anything could could have a more OEM fit and finish :rolf: Tuning has taken forever but it's making well over 600whp.


Done yet? :nix:

Have you even run yet? All this talk and nothing but more rework. No time slips. I don't trust any dyno sheets as we both know they can be manipulated to read anything you want.

Your engine bay looks like a train wreck or at least hit by a train. Want to compare appearance to my pics?

blackbenzz 12-08-2013 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by AMGSC (Post 5868892)
Have you even run yet? All this talk and nothing but more rework. No time slips. I don't trust any dyno sheets as we both know they can be manipulated to read anything you want.

Your engine bay looks like a train wreck or at least hit by a train. Want to compare appearance to my pics?

10.6 @ 132.9 over a month ago with a bad TCU and full weight. You already knew that though as you commented on it when I posted the time. That was prior to my new setup which makes alot more power. Speaking of which, what's your best time? :rolf: I will run you any day any time.

Have you even seen under my hood? :nix: What exactly doesn't look OEM besides the Weistec SC?

AMGSC 12-08-2013 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by blackbenzz (Post 5868900)
10.6 @ 132.9 over a month ago with a bad TCU and full weight. You already knew that though as you commented on it when I posted the time. That was prior to my new setup which makes alot more power. Speaking of which, what's your best time? :rolf: I will run you any day any time.

Have you even seen under my hood? :nix: What exactly doesn't look OEM besides the Weistec SC?

And then after the run what happend? I don't want my car to run one race and then break for more rework. I want to have a low 10 sec/140 trap car and doubles as daily driver and good for another 100K miles.

blackbenzz 12-08-2013 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by AMGSC (Post 5868907)
And then after the run what happend? I don't want my car to run one race and then break for more rework. I want to have a low 10 sec/140 trap car and doubles as daily driver and good for another 100K miles.

After the run I drove it home just like I drove it to the track :rolf: My car never broke. I decided to buy a short block with forged pistons in and was sold a junk block. Pulled it back out. Car runs and didn't break. Dunno what you're talking about :nix: Keep fishing. Go run a low 10 at over 140 and post it up. Enough of your talk. You've been saying your car will run this and that for years. Have you even been tens yet??? Keep trying to copy everything I do.

blackbenzz 12-08-2013 09:54 PM

Proof of 1/4 mile almost 2 months ago with old setup

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps45422138.jpg

Proof car is running with new setup



Your turn...

snooozie 12-09-2013 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by cm60k (Post 5868320)
Im so glad with a power i have without supercharging,,

of course; depends to the HP goal desired.....;)

ZAYED,,



+:y


Unless you plan on dragging or tracking it, what I did to mine is plentiful for daily drive and once in a while WOT (watch out for cops...that's why I have a solo:D)

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-09-2013 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by blackbenzz (Post 5868882)
I put the 55k kit on my NA 55 a longgg time ago and did it on my own in a couple weeks working on it once in a while. Using OEM parts so I don't see how anything could could have a more OEM fit and finish :rolf: Tuning has taken forever but it's making well over 600whp.

Love hearing things like this :y People become way to reliant on "experts", when you be self-reliant with a little time and effort spent learning the pro's and con's of every option available.

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-09-2013 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by blackbenzz (Post 5868954)
Proof of 1/4 mile almost 2 months ago with old setup

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps45422138.jpg

Proof car is running with new setup
Spinning on dyno - YouTube



Your turn...

You have a monster!

Weistec 12-09-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by BlownV8 (Post 5868156)
Do you route the air filter to the left side on the 210E kit so you don't have to relocate the reservoirs?

We have yet to install a system on the W210 chassis. As you can see from a couple members here, the parts we offer do fit the W208 model and the W203. We are also certain that it will work on the W209 as well.

Strigoi 12-09-2013 06:05 PM

I'm out. I've decided to go another route with a different vehicle.

CharlyE500 12-11-2013 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Strigoi (Post 5869766)
I'm out. I've decided to go another route with a different vehicle.

+1 many cars that cheaper to mod and faster. W210 is a 4 door sedan and the only way to make fast is SC which cost more than $10K with installation. If you want a fast car, get a Corvette Z06 or the new C7.

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-11-2013 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Weistec (Post 5869491)
We have yet to install a system on the W210 chassis. As you can see from a couple members here, the parts we offer do fit the W208 model and the W203. We are also certain that it will work on the W209 as well.

Well you could have installed on mine but you've lost my vote of confidence, as I outlined earlier in this thread. Customer service levels a below poor :crazy:


Originally Posted by Strigoi (Post 5869766)
I'm out. I've decided to go another route with a different vehicle.

Let us know what you get up to Strigoi :naughty:


Originally Posted by CharlyE500 (Post 5871831)
+1 many cars that cheaper to mod and faster. W210 is a 4 door sedan and the only way to make fast is SC which cost more than $10K with installation. If you want a fast car, get a Corvette Z06 or the new C7.

What you say makes sense from a general perspective. However, some of us have W210's because they are modern classics, or were childhood dreams (I fit into the latter category). Mine is a daily-driver passion project. Spending more money on servicing and tuning the car than it's actual worth isn't an issue. Each to their own, and I plan to be leaving Z06's and C7's at the lights once I'm through with the planned work :zoom:

CharlyE500 12-11-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by M3RC3D3SE55AMG (Post 5871847)
Well you could have installed on mine but you've lost my vote of confidence, as I outlined earlier in this thread. Customer service levels a below poor :crazy:



Let us know what you get up to Strigoi :naughty:



What you say makes sense from a general perspective. However, some of us have W210's because they are modern classics, or were childhood dreams (I fit into the latter category). Mine is a daily-driver passion project. Spending more money on servicing and tuning the car than it's actual worth isn't an issue. Each to their own, and I plan to be leaving Z06's and C7's at the lights once I'm through with the planned work :zoom:


I understand your passion. I own few 55 so I know. Currently I have CLK55, W210 and W211 parking in my garage so I know what you mean.
But these cars are Mercedes, they are suppose to be classic, fast and comfortable. If you want power and handling Corvette is the best choice. Z06 with very simple mods can run high 10's.

Good luck with your project and keep us posted.

Strigoi 12-11-2013 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by M3RC3D3SE55AMG (Post 5871847)
Let us know what you get up to Strigoi :naughty:

The plan right now is a Toyota FJ Cruiser with some mods (lift, wheels/tires, bumpers, roof rack, supercharger, exhaust, etc...). I'm just going to keep the E55 as is and not dump any more money into it (late edit: might do the stereo). It's fast enough and I don't drive it that much anyway. It sees maybe 10-30 miles a week at this point.

The Intrepid is getting sold since I don't like it and the same is happening with the Durango (have had it over 11 years) since an FJ replaces what it does. I also have no need for 3 vehicles.

M3RC3D3SE55AMG 12-12-2013 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by CharlyE500 (Post 5871881)
I understand your passion. I own few 55 so I know. Currently I have CLK55, W210 and W211 parking in my garage so I know what you mean.
But these cars are Mercedes, they are suppose to be classic, fast and comfortable. If you want power and handling Corvette is the best choice. Z06 with very simple mods can run high 10's.

Good luck with your project and keep us posted.

Indeed I'll post updates as and when i have them :zoom:


Originally Posted by Strigoi (Post 5872068)
The plan right now is a Toyota FJ Cruiser with some mods (lift, wheels/tires, bumpers, roof rack, supercharger, exhaust, etc...). I'm just going to keep the E55 as is and not dump any more money into it (late edit: might do the stereo). It's fast enough and I don't drive it that much anyway. It sees maybe 10-30 miles a week at this point.

The Intrepid is getting sold since I don't like it and the same is happening with the Durango (have had it over 11 years) since an FJ replaces what it does. I also have no need for 3 vehicles.

I like your logic :D


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