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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 03:39 AM
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So I have 2002 E55 w210. It's stuck in limp mode. Changed the conductor plate, leaking connector, filter gasket and fluid. Still in limp mode, The gear indicator on the dash is fubared, not displaying correctly. Not sure if it is the display alone since the clock is also a little missed up. I ordered the shifter unit from dealer for $492 at my cost. I'm wondering tho if I only need to tear the shifter apart and replace these two control units and save myself $350 since its $140 to buy them both.

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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 08:05 AM
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Why not have it appropriately diagnosed it by a mechanic first rather than throwing parts at it? How many miles? Have you checked the battery to see if it has the enough voltage, a common known problem for limp mode transmissions?

Couple of quick google finds on similar issues

http://www.mercedesmedic.com/mercede...shooting-tips/

https://burdimotors.com/2017/11/30/m...imp-home-mode/

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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 09:38 AM
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A "hard" code that puts the transmission into limp mode must be cleared from the TCU with STAR before the transmission will work properly again.
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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 11:58 AM
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Did you check your TCU..?, oil might sneaks in it..!?!!,,

that one of most common issue on "722.6"..!!

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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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Well I am a Automotive Tech by trade, I did clear the codes from the TCM , I did inspect all lines and connectors and no fluid wicked anywhere.
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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 12:54 PM
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Not so sure about that, but it could bad TCU or not accurate oil level..!

or also, the shifter not pointed correctly in the gearbox selector, due to bad shifter

linkage bushing..!?!

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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 05:03 PM
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Inspected bushing-intact, no play. All wires appear clear. When you guys say TCU do you mean the TCM in the engine compartment or the shifter modual?
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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Yes sure, TCM = TCU..

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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 12:44 AM
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Yes sure, TCM = TCU..

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Then yes, that is clear as well , The only code that pops into the TCU now is y3/6y1. There was a ton of codes before hand but the conductor plate fixed them. My boss said no to replacing the solenoid since the dealer wants $300 for just the one.

Check the TCM and it is clear of fluid.
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 01:43 AM
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My 2000 E55 would go limp at times, especially at Anything over 70 percent throttle. I would shut the car and restart it, it would run fine for a few miles then limp again. It never threw a code or CEL. It turned out to be my crank shaft position sensor was off a few margins and not reading accurately. The dealer readjusted/reset it and it’s worked great ever since. Cheapest service I’ve ever had at MB dealer. $150.
PS- 2 different reputable independent mechanics couldn’t find the fault. You might want to try the dealer. They’ll find it for sure, and then fix it yourself.
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 11:51 AM
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****, found the underlying issue, so the TCM connectors were clear, but after opening up the TCM it was flooded. Gonna spray it down with electrical cleaner, and if that doesn't work I'll reflow the board with flux and report back.
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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Hope clean it up will do the job,

hate when oil goes there, had this once,,

i put sponge at the end of harness to connectors and catch it out, before sneaks into there again..

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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Hope clean it up will do the job,

hate when oil goes there, had this once,,

i put sponge at the end of harness to connectors and catch it out, before sneaks into there again..

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So, Cleaning it up didn't help, I got some kind of code saying TCM internal fault. It's now with my microsolder tech getting fluxed and reflowed.
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 10:47 PM
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Sorry to hear that, maybe time to get other TCU..!,,

i guess you have an EGS52, isn't..?

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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 11:22 PM
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Sorry to hear that, maybe time to get other TCU..!,,

i guess you have an EGS52, isn't..?

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It is the EGS52, why do you bring that up?

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Old Aug 4, 2018 | 03:14 AM
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Cause EGS51 is not programmable, and hard to deal with it,,

but EGS52 is kinda easy to tune it & program it as well..

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The "flooded" TCU's I have seen ALL have come back to life with proper cleaning - key is using a ammonia free spray cleaner - cheapest safe/non-ammonia spray is a can of MAF spray - hold board on edge and literally "flood clean" both sides of the board - change the edge you're holding and flood both sides again - be generous so that the cleaner carries away the contamination off the board - clean TCU connector up there as well - air dry board only - no heat.

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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
The "flooded" TCU's I have seen ALL have come back to life with proper cleaning - key is using a ammonia free spray cleaner - cheapest safe/non-ammonia spray is a can of MAF spray - hold board on edge and literally "flood clean" both sides of the board - change the edge you're holding and flood both sides again - be generous so that the cleaner carries away the contamination off the board - clean TCU connector up there as well - air dry board only - no heat.

Good luck with it...
Cleaning it did not help, my scan tool said TCM internal fault. So it's at a circuit repair shop right now $50 to have it ultrasonically cleaned, covered it flux, reflowed and beef up the solder, and then cleaned again with pure alcohol. Let's see how this goes.
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So update, tcm came back from solder shop and working fine now, super clean. Internal fault code is gone. Took it for a test drive and it is still locked in limp. TCU reported back y3/6y1 modulated pressure solinoid fault. I'm gonna drop the VB tonight. Does anyone have a diagram that shows which solinoid go where and there respective part numbers?
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Pressure solenoid (y3/6y1), MB #: "203 270 00 89"

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Pressure solenoid (y3/6y1), MB #: "203 270 00 89"

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If it was me - if the tranny is strong - I'd shop eBay for "pre-owned" solenoid set which is cheap (reuse existing boots) - or shop a reman valve body about $400
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Old Aug 14, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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Pressure solenoid (y3/6y1), MB #: "203 270 00 89"

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question, is that a superceeded part number? Because the one inside my mine is a140 277 03 98
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This is "Bosch" contract/factory #, the new # should be "203 270 00 89"..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
This is "Bosch" contract/factory #, the new # should be "203 270 00 89"..

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Well I'm going back into the transmission. I pulled the solinoid and it tests fine, so I think It was a install error aka my bad. I forget is it 1 gallon of ATF on a valve body drop to fill? Left my tool at work.
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