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Just picked up a 2002 E55, installed a new intake manifold today. Installing headers and flex fuel kit tomorrow with bigger injectors. In a few weeks a water meth injection also. Baseline was 301whp and 311tq.
Deleting the air injection also and egr. Will post pictures tomorrow.
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Couple of things here. Are you adding forced induction? If not, it won't have the power of supercharged or turbocharged 55 engines that are already out there. Not sure how adding water/meth will do anything unless you are greatly increasing the compression ratio and are using to control detonation or adding forced induction.
Couple of things here. Are you adding forced induction? If not, it won't have the power of supercharged or turbocharged 55 engines that are already out there. Not sure how adding water/meth will do anything unless you are greatly increasing the compression ratio and are using to control detonation or adding forced induction.
I am saying it’s going to be the highest power n/a 113 not talking about all 113.
Also how do you figure they dropping air intake temps won’t make more power? Do you know this from all the cars you tuned, dynoed or installed water meth on?
Yes, I have done it on cars. Even on forced induction cars, it never made more hp for me but did allow me to not heat soak as fast. I've also blown an engine when the solenoid failed and continued to dump the water/meth in my engine when I was not on boost. If you do make more power in a NA car, it would be so slight that it won't matter. Again, if you bump up the compression and or run some other power added, yeah, maybe it would matter more. Just don't think it will matter in a stock NA M113 engine.
Please, prove us wrong. Wish you the best but, trust me when I say that we have seen this before from other posters and it does not typically turn out as planned. Again, good luck in your quest for more power. My only advice is to add boost or NOS if you want to make power from this engine.
So you are saying some that lowers the air intake temp will slow a car down? How do you figure that?
Without a forced induction power adder your intake temps will not be high enough for WI to make a difference. That money will be better spent on suspension/braking mods or a nitrous kit if you really want to make power. You could consider a vortec/novi supercharge kit. There probably isn't an off the shelf kit available but if your fabbing skills are on point you could whip up a bracket/pulley system in short order.
Also, it just dawned on me there are aftermarket turbo kits that are pretty much one size fits all. The lag time is bad due to the turbo being in the rear of the car but once boost builds you better be holding onto something!
Without a forced induction power adder your intake temps will not be high enough for WI to make a difference. That money will be better spent on suspension/braking mods or a nitrous kit if you really want to make power. You could consider a vortec/novi supercharge kit. There probably isn't an off the shelf kit available but if your fabbing skills are on point you could whip up a bracket/pulley system in short order.
Also, it just dawned on me there are aftermarket turbo kits that are pretty much one size fits all. The lag time is bad due to the turbo being in the rear of the car but once boost builds you better be holding onto something!
One day I am going to build a high compression motor or just swap a stock 113k blower onto it.
Southern HotRod trans East Coast Euro Egr block off plates East Coast Euro motor mounts East Coast Euro air injection block offs and new install manifold Car going back together right now. Next to this lovely C63s getting a new lip.
Working on my car today, hopefully have it tuned and running on E85 at the end of this week. Advanced Fuel Dynamics flex fuel kit, Only one on an N/A 113.
Finally got it running today, should get my Eurocharged tune later. Get it on the dyno this week. Then get it on E85 and a tune with adding timing. Will post dyno numbers this weekend.
Finally got it running today, should get my Eurocharged tune later. Get it on the dyno this week. Then get it on E85 and a tune with adding timing. Will post dyno numbers this weekend.
It’s making 330whp an 350tq with an AFR of about 11.5, I am still waiting on another update for my tune for 93. Maybe a few more weeks before I get it dynoed on e85. My 2000 e55 made 345whp and 360tq on E70
It’s making 330whp an 350tq with an AFR of about 11.5, I am still waiting on another update for my tune for 93. Maybe a few more weeks before I get it dynoed on e85. My 2000 e55 made 345whp and 360tq on E70
Cool! Does blocking off the EGR and air injection help make power increases, and do those cause a CEL?
Last edited by SlickVick; Sep 12, 2019 at 05:00 PM.
Cool! Does blocking off the EGR and air injection help make power increases, and do those cause a CEL?
My car is a 2002 so Me2.8 I can code out the egr and air injection. If it does has horsepower, it would be from the egr delete. Noticeable on a dyno, probably not. But my current car is making more power than my 2000, with the same set up.
My car is a 2002 so Me2.8 I can code out the egr and air injection. If it does has horsepower, it would be from the egr delete. Noticeable on a dyno, probably not. But my current car is making more power than my 2000, with the same set up.
I have an '01 which I believe is Me2.8 also.. Was just curious.
Have you done, or plan to do any intake work? You said "new intake manifold" but why did you get a new one, and is it factory? I was considering pulling mine off to see if there was any chance for porting, and also considering removing some excess material from inside the airbox.
Last edited by SlickVick; Sep 17, 2019 at 02:55 AM.
I have an '01 which I believe is Me2.8 also.. Was just curious.
Have you done, or plan to do any intake work? You said "new intake manifold" but why did you get a new one, and is it factory? I was considering pulling mine off to see if there was any chance for porting, and also considering removing some excess material from inside the airbox.
made 18whp with that intake setup. Made over 20hp in the mid range and 20lb ft of torque.
I wouldn’t be worried about porting the heading, they flow well enough. Unless it’s someone who is really really really good at porting heads.
I got a new manifold just to get one, my boss bought it for me anyway. Our cost was still 750$
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