W210 E55 Lowering Lowdown ...
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Chappy, you're saying that the euro spec springs are different than US spec W210 E55 springs? Shorter? stiffer? both? Do the stock Bilsteins still work with them?
Your stock dampers should work fine with the euro-spec springs as that's the way AMG designed them to originally work
The best way to find out if euro-spec applies to your car is to compare part numbers or by contacting your supplier of choice
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Try considering Bils & H&R setup with #1 pads all around. Should do the trick. You'll probably get 1 finger gap all around.
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Originally Posted by E55 KEV
Hey Jam, why no recommendation for the Kleemann setup? Isn't that what you are running or did you change it? If you changed, why? Thanks.
Long time no talk man!
You know i'd be all over recommending the "K" but this setup up is not for everyone. And reason i say that is because it's expensive. For anyone who is looking to lower their car on a budget the H&R is your best bet. If you're going all out "K" is is the best setup. Don't worry buddy i still have mine! Next set of mods is coming up! 
What you been up to lately? Haven't seen you post as much? Still have the beast? Any new mod?
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Originally Posted by Chappy
As far as I know, yes (based on my W208 experience - W210 may be different). My CLK springs are shorter as they do not have to comply with U.S. bumper regulations. As far as stiffness, mine seem to ride about the same as the U.S.-spec springs. Handling has improved slightly due to a lowered center of gravity. You can also change out the springs pads at the same time if an even lowered height is desired.
Your stock dampers should work fine with the euro-spec springs as that's the way AMG designed them to originally work
The best way to find out if euro-spec applies to your car is to compare part numbers or by contacting your supplier of choice
Your stock dampers should work fine with the euro-spec springs as that's the way AMG designed them to originally work
The best way to find out if euro-spec applies to your car is to compare part numbers or by contacting your supplier of choice
This might be exactly what I'm looking for. I don't want a big drop or a stiffer ride, just an inch or so, and EVERYTHING I've checked out so far has been either too low, too stiff, or (usually) both.
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Just wanted to concur with what JamE55 stated regarding Kleemann being the best suspension setup. I installed their suspension setup on my '02 w210 E55 and the results were great. The resulting ride is actually more comfortable (smoother) than stock and the handling is also improved! Turn in is much crisper and the car turns much flatter. You get the best of both worlds.
I don't know what spring pads I have installed on my car but the ride hide ends up being 13.75" from wheel center to fender lip on the front (1.25" drop) and 14" from wheel center to fender lip on the rear (1.00 " drop). Kleeman states that their setup should provide 1.25" drop all around but the rear is a little higher creating a slightly rake look which I like.
I understand that the Kleemann is expensive but if you are looking for a great ride / handling combination it can't be beat.
Just wanted to pass along my first hand experience.
I don't know what spring pads I have installed on my car but the ride hide ends up being 13.75" from wheel center to fender lip on the front (1.25" drop) and 14" from wheel center to fender lip on the rear (1.00 " drop). Kleeman states that their setup should provide 1.25" drop all around but the rear is a little higher creating a slightly rake look which I like.
I understand that the Kleemann is expensive but if you are looking for a great ride / handling combination it can't be beat.
Just wanted to pass along my first hand experience.
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
Never ever cut your springs.
You have a Mercedes.. not a Honda.
You have a Mercedes.. not a Honda.
No doubt.
Alright James, what's the damage (screw the budget) for the whole system (what's included?), and I know your car is lower than I want mine, so what pads are you running?
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Originally Posted by Fast55
No doubt.
Alright James, what's the damage (screw the budget) for the whole system (what's included?), and I know your car is lower than I want mine, so what pads are you running?
Alright James, what's the damage (screw the budget) for the whole system (what's included?), and I know your car is lower than I want mine, so what pads are you running?
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Kevster!
Long time no talk man! You know i'd be all over recommending the "K" but this setup up is not for everyone. And reason i say that is because it's expensive. For anyone who is looking to lower their car on a budget the H&R is your best bet. If you're going all out "K" is is the best setup. Don't worry buddy i still have mine! Next set of mods is coming up! What you been up to lately? Haven't seen you post as much? Still have the beast? Any new mod?
Long time no talk man!
You know i'd be all over recommending the "K" but this setup up is not for everyone. And reason i say that is because it's expensive. For anyone who is looking to lower their car on a budget the H&R is your best bet. If you're going all out "K" is is the best setup. Don't worry buddy i still have mine! Next set of mods is coming up! What you been up to lately? Haven't seen you post as much? Still have the beast? Any new mod? I've been hanging around. But I have split my forum time here and also on the 300C and Magnum forums. I got a Magnum Hemi and the ol lady has a 300C Hemi. No mods on either yet.There is usually not much talk about the our W210 E55 any more. Which I can understand since are much fewer - only sold 500 per year for our model. I still dream about the Kleemann setup - your recommention is all I needed. Glad to see you still have it. I will pull the trigger soon especilly since my 02 factory warranty runs out in 7 months. After that it may be time for a Blower and Brake upgrades. I have number 3 spring pads all around - Let me and Fast55 know which you have. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Ttsakai
Just wanted to concur with what JamE55 stated regarding Kleemann being the best suspension setup. I installed their suspension setup on my '02 w210 E55 and the results were great. The resulting ride is actually more comfortable (smoother) than stock and the handling is also improved! Turn in is much crisper and the car turns much flatter. You get the best of both worlds.
I don't know what spring pads I have installed on my car but the ride hide ends up being 13.75" from wheel center to fender lip on the front (1.25" drop) and 14" from wheel center to fender lip on the rear (1.00 " drop). Kleeman states that their setup should provide 1.25" drop all around but the rear is a little higher creating a slightly rake look which I like.
Just wanted to pass along my first hand experience.
I don't know what spring pads I have installed on my car but the ride hide ends up being 13.75" from wheel center to fender lip on the front (1.25" drop) and 14" from wheel center to fender lip on the rear (1.00 " drop). Kleeman states that their setup should provide 1.25" drop all around but the rear is a little higher creating a slightly rake look which I like.
Just wanted to pass along my first hand experience.
Ttsakai,
I believe your stock pads are #3 which is the highest. I'm using the lowest pad which is # 1. Think i have about 1 finger gap all around or less and looks just right for my taste. You should try going # 1 for a less 4x4 look. Just my 2 cents.
I understand that the Kleemann is expensive but if you are looking for a great ride / handling combination it can't be beat.
Never ever cut your springs.
Alright James, what's the damage (screw the budget) for the whole system (what's included?), and I know your car is lower than I want mine, so what pads are you running?
As i've mentioned before running #1 pads all around for the solid track look but street performance. I honestly don't remember how much it cost because i got this a long time ago. Think 00-01. Got it from www.wheelexperts.com Talk to Pete and tell him James sent ya!
List price i THINK is about $2100 for both the springs and shocks. You can also check www.evosport.com for pricing. Again this was a long time ago. You should try it! It'll be a nice improvement from stock or if you're running stocks.
Jam, I can say the same for you! I've been hanging around. But I have split my forum time here and also on the 300C and Magnum forums. I got a Magnum Hemi and the ol lady has a 300C Hemi. No mods on either yet.
There is usually not much talk about the our W210 E55 any more. Which I can understand since are much fewer - only sold 500 per year for our model. I still dream about the Kleemann setup - your recommention is all I needed. Glad to see you still have it. I will pull the trigger soon especilly since my 02 factory warranty runs out in 7 months. After that it may be time for a Blower and Brake upgrades. I have number 3 spring pads all around - Let me and Fast55 know which you have. Thanks.
There is usually not much talk about the our W210 E55 any more. Which I can understand since are much fewer - only sold 500 per year for our model. I still dream about the Kleemann setup - your recommention is all I needed. Glad to see you still have it. I will pull the trigger soon especilly since my 02 factory warranty runs out in 7 months. After that it may be time for a Blower and Brake upgrades. I have number 3 spring pads all around - Let me and Fast55 know which you have. Thanks.
You sly dog you!
How come i don't see you on that forum? I'm there too! Actually i'm everywhere so it doesn't matter. lol Reason why there's less talk about our W210 is we're special!
Are you kidding me? I'll always have that setup! And once you get it i can definitely tell you it's like buying a 211 E55 engine but with a 210 chassis. This thing is solid! I'm about to finish the engine project soon and will hopefully be over 600 ponies or more if i can. But we'll see. If you have any questions let me know and i'll be more than to help you out!
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I'm currently debating between ordering the euro-spec springs and shorter pads, or doing eibachs. I want to lower mine and maintain as much of the ride quality as possible - the poor roads here have me leery of the H&R setup.
I read awhile back on an old post that top of the fender-arch heights were 25.75 inches front and 26.1 inches rear with the euro springs and #2 pads. Need to measure my stock height and see what # pads mine came with from the factory.
I read awhile back on an old post that top of the fender-arch heights were 25.75 inches front and 26.1 inches rear with the euro springs and #2 pads. Need to measure my stock height and see what # pads mine came with from the factory.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Finally someone who agrees with me!
Ttsakai,
I believe your stock pads are #3 which is the highest. I'm using the lowest pad which is # 1. Think i have about 1 finger gap all around or less and looks just right for my taste. You should try going # 1 for a less 4x4 look. Just my 2 cents.
Ttsakai,
I believe your stock pads are #3 which is the highest. I'm using the lowest pad which is # 1. Think i have about 1 finger gap all around or less and looks just right for my taste. You should try going # 1 for a less 4x4 look. Just my 2 cents.
FRONT SPRING PADS
210 321 01 84 5mm
210 321 02 84 9mm
210 321 03 84 13 mm
210 321 04 84 17 mm
210 321 05 84 21 mm
REAR SPRING PADS
210 325 01 84 5 mm
210 325 02 84 9 mm
210 325 03 84 13 mm
210 325 04 84 17 mm
Originally Posted by JamE55
Kev
You sly dog you! How come i don't see you on that forum? I'm there too! Actually i'm everywhere so it doesn't matter. lol y
You sly dog you!
How come i don't see you on that forum? I'm there too! Actually i'm everywhere so it doesn't matter. lol y
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Thanks James. This or a W211, but then I'll have to start modding all over again!!
Welcome! But like what you said you'll be starting all over again. If i were you just finish this one. Just my 3 cents.
I'm currently debating between ordering the euro-spec springs and shorter pads, or doing eibachs. I want to lower mine and maintain as much of the ride quality as possible - the poor roads here have me leery of the H&R setup.
Jam, you have a LX Hemi also? Those SRT-8's with 425HP are the bomb and a great value. Supercharger is taking them to 500 RWHP. Look out AMG's. He-he! That Charger SRT-8 is going to be a monster! I moderate on www.300cforums.com and also belong to www.lxforums.com. Come on over.
I'm hoping to be over 500+rwhp once this thing is done. Should be a
