New Audi RS6.....550hp.
05-25-2005, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tommaey
Don't get confused that was just his signature picture - engine from the back of a CLK-GTR I think.
05-25-2005, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
Which is a bad thing?
Brand loyalty is stupid bro..
Brand loyalty is stupid bro..
I am not bashing Audi or praising MBZ. From my experience and from talking to people about Audi, MBZ and BMW for that matter... MBZ will earn my business more often than not, especially comparing an RS6 to an E55. Sure there are many Audi owners/drivers who would say the same thing about MBZ, but for me, all things that I consider when purchasing a new car... it's still an Audi.
05-25-2005, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
I spoke without knowing background. My apoligies.
05-25-2005, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Eleanor Owner
This pic of the silver one looks better IMO. What is that AMG engine though? All that carbon fiber and a 7.0? What am I missing here...?
05-25-2005, 06:44 AM
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I'm really surprised to see the direction that the german industry takes when it comes to performance cars. It seems that high output NA engines are the trend now. BMW M cars are all like this, Audi RS4 and RS6 will have 100HP+/L NA engine and mercedes is going back NA.
Pretty good new after my idea since nothing can the replace the joy of a revving NA engine.
Pretty good new after my idea since nothing can the replace the joy of a revving NA engine.
05-25-2005, 09:42 AM
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Pretty good new after my idea since nothing can the replace the joy of a revving NA engine.
05-25-2005, 10:14 AM
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That IS the RS6. Not sure what the blue one was, but it wasn't an RS6.
Here is the full article.
Audi has made little effort to hide its upcoming BMW M5 fighter, the RS6. We caught it testing at the Nürbur-gring, which means Audi will likely pull the wraps off soon. Right now we know the RS6 will sport similar RS styling cues as seen on the RS4. Like the M5, the RS6 uses a V10 engine displacing about 5.5 liters and producing 550 horsepower.
The tamer S6 will also receive a V10, around 5.2 liters and 440 horsepower. We expect Audi to offer both six-speed automatic and seven-speed direct-shift gearboxes.
You already have seen the first pic
Here are the other 2.
05-25-2005, 10:18 AM
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Hey I think I got it! Found a few more sights that all have pics of this car as the new S6....are the RS6 and the S6 different cars. If so...that is our problem and newsweek did indeed F it up.
HA, I guess it is true. Don't believe anything that you hear and HALF of what you SEE.
HA, I guess it is true. Don't believe anything that you hear and HALF of what you SEE.
05-25-2005, 01:55 PM
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I've held out of talking on this thread, but I wanted to at least stand up and back my Audi tendencies. I've driven and owned 2 Audi's up to this point. I've also driven and owned 2 Mercs up to this point. I've driven the RS6 and also the E55 - both on the highway and in the curves.
What I notice is that stock for stock the Audi's all handle better out of the box. More responsive, involving experience with a better balanced chassis. Straight line, they can't keep up with the Mercs, but with a few mods, that can change.
The interiors of the A class Audi's are better than the C Class, but the E55 has a better interior than the RS6 by far. Exterior is really up to the owner - but I prefer the AMG looks over the S/RS looks of the Audi's, but with a little work they look great.
Dealership experience - well Merc is better by far. Audi's dealers need to work on their customer service. They need to learn that people who spend this kind of money on cars - tend to be busy people with little time to waste and little patience for any sales games.
Also, as evidenced by the new RS4, Quattro GMBh (the tuning arm of Audi) is being more aggressive in getting road ready sport focused cars on teh road. I bet the new RS6 will have the rear biased Quattro as well as more responsive steering and handling than any other Audi previously known.
Finally, Audi as a company has been quite aggressive in developing new technologies in the realm of engine performance (FSI being one of them and Quattro being another) which I don't think mercedes does.
They're just 2 different cars really - and I'd love to own either one.
What I notice is that stock for stock the Audi's all handle better out of the box. More responsive, involving experience with a better balanced chassis. Straight line, they can't keep up with the Mercs, but with a few mods, that can change.
The interiors of the A class Audi's are better than the C Class, but the E55 has a better interior than the RS6 by far. Exterior is really up to the owner - but I prefer the AMG looks over the S/RS looks of the Audi's, but with a little work they look great.
Dealership experience - well Merc is better by far. Audi's dealers need to work on their customer service. They need to learn that people who spend this kind of money on cars - tend to be busy people with little time to waste and little patience for any sales games.
Also, as evidenced by the new RS4, Quattro GMBh (the tuning arm of Audi) is being more aggressive in getting road ready sport focused cars on teh road. I bet the new RS6 will have the rear biased Quattro as well as more responsive steering and handling than any other Audi previously known.
Finally, Audi as a company has been quite aggressive in developing new technologies in the realm of engine performance (FSI being one of them and Quattro being another) which I don't think mercedes does.
They're just 2 different cars really - and I'd love to own either one.
05-26-2005, 06:05 AM
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I doubt that they will release New RS6 soon, since did not even released S6 yet...They just released new RS4...
I guess at least 2 more years until new RS6 will come out...
I guess at least 2 more years until new RS6 will come out...
05-26-2005, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Glad to help 
The current E55 already is in the 500HP range. With basic bolt ons (Kleemann K2) I am pushing close to 600HP and 650 Torque and the car is just as much a daily driver as stock. I drove my E55 stock for about 16 months. The big difference is that I can go to the track and run 1/4 times in the 11's and 0-60 times in the 3's
The current E55 already is in the 500HP range. With basic bolt ons (Kleemann K2) I am pushing close to 600HP and 650 Torque and the car is just as much a daily driver as stock. I drove my E55 stock for about 16 months. The big difference is that I can go to the track and run 1/4 times in the 11's and 0-60 times in the 3's Kleemann K2 kit pullies, Headers qand ECU pushes power to 560 HP...
If you also add sports Kat and 70mm downpipes with middle and rear mufflers then you would be running 580HP and then you put CAMS, which is becoming stage 3 (K3) and you car will make 610HP!!!
05-26-2005, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Where did you get 600HP figures for K2 kit???
Kleemann K2 kit pullies, Headers qand ECU pushes power to 560 HP...
If you also add sports Kat and 70mm downpipes with middle and rear mufflers then you would be running 580HP and then you put CAMS, which is becoming stage 3 (K3) and you car will make 610HP!!!
Kleemann K2 kit pullies, Headers qand ECU pushes power to 560 HP...
If you also add sports Kat and 70mm downpipes with middle and rear mufflers then you would be running 580HP and then you put CAMS, which is becoming stage 3 (K3) and you car will make 610HP!!!
05-26-2005, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Getting passed by a car with forced induction takes that joy away pretty quickly.
Enjoying your car for the emotions it gives to you, regardless of the performances.
I can enjoy a four cylinder sub 200HP hatchback on the small twisty roads of my region.
Can you?
05-26-2005, 08:56 AM
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I can enjoy a four cylinder sub 200HP hatchback on the small twisty roads of my region.
05-26-2005, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Many K2 cars are pushing between 575- 610 with primary cats removed.
K3 kit consists of pullies, headers, full Kleemann 70mm exhaust, Cams and to complement everything Kleemann ECU and makes 610HP...
I think it is possible with K2 kit your also remove Secondary Cats then you could make an extra 15 HP...but then with No CATS at all, you want pass emmision tests, probably its illegal in US to have a car with NO CATS...
I heavent heard of anyone doing this...although Kleemann has told me that its possible that they can remove all for CAT for thier foreign customers and program ECU for this....
May you are talking about secondary Cat...which one are which???
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As far as I know...Primary Cats are removed with K2 kit when Kleemann headers installed...E55 Kompressor with Kleemann K2 kit makes 560 HP!!! It can not vary (575-610) by that much...575-580 K2 kit + sport cats instead of stock Secondary Cats, 70mm down pipes, middle and rear mufflers...
Now, even they (Kleemann) will tell you the Dynomet they use is not Gospel truth of crank hp, you gotta pop that aluminum baby out for that....it takes rear wheel hp and calculates tranny loss to determine crank hp. That being said...these guys are also not, "shade tree mechanics" and started getting into tech talk on the inner workings of the Benz motor that started to sound like Japanese, and I used to be a mechanic in my po' days.
My poor innocent beast eeked out a meager 490 WITH speedtuningusa ECU and K&N's. That is a monster difference that atmosphere and weather got not have played that big a part in. Anyway, mine showed up at 585 with K2 and cat removed. Honestly, there really is no way of knowing FOR SURE. I do want to try to have a rear wheel dyno done, then we will at least know if we are close. Best estimate is that the Benz drivetrain kills 19% (Don't quote me on that...best memory of what they told me) of your power before she gets to the wheels. I should be pushing around 470RWHP....we'll see.
05-26-2005, 11:40 AM
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But how do we expain the huge difference in HP between Gid-E-ups car and others. His pushed over 510 stock...it was the highest dyno'd stock E55 Kleemann had ever seen. They even called Denmark headquarters to check and sure nuff, it was. Gid is a preacher of "break um in like you drive um"
Now, even they (Kleemann) will tell you the Dynomet they use is not Gospel truth of crank hp, you gotta pop that aluminum baby out for that....it takes rear wheel hp and calculates tranny loss to determine crank hp. That being said...these guys are also not, "shade tree mechanics" and started getting into tech talk on the inner workings of the Benz motor that started to sound like Japanese, and I used to be a mechanic in my po' days.
My poor innocent beast eeked out a meager 490 WITH speedtuningusa ECU and K&N's. That is a monster difference that atmosphere and weather got not have played that big a part in. Anyway, mine showed up at 585 with K2 and cat removed. Honestly, there really is no way of knowing FOR SURE. I do want to try to have a rear wheel dyno done, then we will at least know if we are close. Best estimate is that the Benz drivetrain kills 19% (Don't quote me on that...best memory of what they told me) of your power before she gets to the wheels. I should be pushing around 470RWHP....we'll see.
Now, even they (Kleemann) will tell you the Dynomet they use is not Gospel truth of crank hp, you gotta pop that aluminum baby out for that....it takes rear wheel hp and calculates tranny loss to determine crank hp. That being said...these guys are also not, "shade tree mechanics" and started getting into tech talk on the inner workings of the Benz motor that started to sound like Japanese, and I used to be a mechanic in my po' days.
My poor innocent beast eeked out a meager 490 WITH speedtuningusa ECU and K&N's. That is a monster difference that atmosphere and weather got not have played that big a part in. Anyway, mine showed up at 585 with K2 and cat removed. Honestly, there really is no way of knowing FOR SURE. I do want to try to have a rear wheel dyno done, then we will at least know if we are close. Best estimate is that the Benz drivetrain kills 19% (Don't quote me on that...best memory of what they told me) of your power before she gets to the wheels. I should be pushing around 470RWHP....we'll see.
