Hey E55 dudes....opinions on new Corvette Z06? How would E55 do vs Vette?
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Hey E55 dudes....opinions on new Corvette Z06? How would E55 do vs Vette?
Guys just had a friend rave to me about this car....so I looked it up........Seems monstrous.......0-60 claimed in 3.7 secs wow.....and Chevy revealed price a couple weeks ago of 65K DAMNNNNNNN !!!!! THAt is a freakin bargain..... The only thing is I've always thought about vets as like cars for men with a mid life crisis lol .......sorry don't mean to offend. lol C5 was not so interesting and they were all over the place. I sat in one and felt very cheap. But this Z06 seems more in tune with luxury side. Looks beautiful inside and that body kit is incredible......it's got some SLR lookalike reverse lights on bottom black panel in back. It looks very aggressive and distinct. How do you guys think it will drive? They say it's more practical than previous one?
Reason I ask here is that for 65k you can get a used 03/04 E55. ANd also many of you seem to like to challenge these cars on the road.......how do you think you guys would do against this lightweight beast from CHEVY????? I can't believe I just said chevy on a Benz forum, but that car seems like it can rock anybody's world.
Reason I ask here is that for 65k you can get a used 03/04 E55. ANd also many of you seem to like to challenge these cars on the road.......how do you think you guys would do against this lightweight beast from CHEVY????? I can't believe I just said chevy on a Benz forum, but that car seems like it can rock anybody's world.
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Guys just had a friend rave to me about this car....so I looked it up........Seems monstrous.......0-60 claimed in 3.7 secs wow.....and Chevy revealed price a couple weeks ago of 65K DAMNNNNNNN !!!!! THAt is a freakin bargain..... The only thing is I've always thought about vets as like cars for men with a mid life crisis lol .......sorry don't mean to offend. lol C5 was not so interesting and they were all over the place. I sat in one and felt very cheap. But this Z06 seems more in tune with luxury side. Looks beautiful inside and that body kit is incredible......it's got some SLR lookalike reverse lights on bottom black panel in back. It looks very aggressive and distinct. How do you guys think it will drive? They say it's more practical than previous one?
Reason I ask here is that for 65k you can get a used 03/04 E55. ANd also many of you seem to like to challenge these cars on the road.......how do you think you guys would do against this lightweight beast from CHEVY????? I can't believe I just said chevy on a Benz forum, but that car seems like it can rock anybody's world.
Reason I ask here is that for 65k you can get a used 03/04 E55. ANd also many of you seem to like to challenge these cars on the road.......how do you think you guys would do against this lightweight beast from CHEVY????? I can't believe I just said chevy on a Benz forum, but that car seems like it can rock anybody's world.
the Z-06 is a fantastic car and it will be the performance bargain of the century if it actually comes in at just 65k.
No E55 in stock form will be able to stray near the new Z-06. Mod the heck out of a MB and it will be closer but still no faster than the Z-06. Spend that same money on the Z-06 and the Z-06 will be long gone.
If you want a performance car get the Z-06.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
cant believe u said chevy in a benz forum. what is this a rich eleteist colony? is the Z-06 some sort of crap pile? Id be proud to drive a Z-06... the American car that actually is respectable!
the Z-06 is a fantastic car and it will be the performance bargain of the century if it actually comes in at just 65k.
No E55 in stock form will be able to stray near the new Z-06. Mod the heck out of a MB and it will be closer but still no faster than the Z-06. Spend that same money on the Z-06 and the Z-06 will be long gone.
If you want a performance car get the Z-06.
the Z-06 is a fantastic car and it will be the performance bargain of the century if it actually comes in at just 65k.
No E55 in stock form will be able to stray near the new Z-06. Mod the heck out of a MB and it will be closer but still no faster than the Z-06. Spend that same money on the Z-06 and the Z-06 will be long gone.
If you want a performance car get the Z-06.
Sl55 vs Cobra win difference to put things in perspective. Just curious that's all bro. Settle down Beavis lol!
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Originally Posted by caliboy
Almost every C5 Vette owner has a second car, this one seems like it might actually not only be an outstanding performer as usual, but with a bit more touch of class inside as well and daily driver capabilities. E55 owners always compare their beasts with this car so I just wanted to know how E55 would do performance wise against it........will it get blown away or just walked on slowly
I think the new C6 Z06 will easily walk even a mildly modded E55. In the real world, from a dig, the E55 will probably pull from 0-30 due to the automagic and the instant tq from the blower. After that, I believe that Z06 will pull. Obviously, it takes a good driver to extract the performance from a high HP manual tranny car, while the E55 is a stab-n-steer deal.
GM has been spotted testing the Blue Devil - a 2900lb, 600+hp blown version of the C6 Z06. Rumors abound
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Not logical to compare a four door sedan over 4000 pounds to a 2 seat track car. Depends on what your car requirements are today and the near future.
The Z06 will be a AWESOME car and many members are on the list for one. Most of us will have the E55 as the family sedan and the Z06 as the fun car.
Can not go wrong with either one.
If they ever consider a targa/conv in later years of production (very smart move to capture a huge market), I would consider one very hard. Just look at the ratio of orders being placed on the F430 (30%) vs. F430 Spider(70%). Many of that 70% would be buying something else if open air is important.
If you do consider a Z06, make sure u wait for the second year production.
The Z06 will be a AWESOME car and many members are on the list for one. Most of us will have the E55 as the family sedan and the Z06 as the fun car.
Can not go wrong with either one.
If they ever consider a targa/conv in later years of production (very smart move to capture a huge market), I would consider one very hard. Just look at the ratio of orders being placed on the F430 (30%) vs. F430 Spider(70%). Many of that 70% would be buying something else if open air is important.
If you do consider a Z06, make sure u wait for the second year production.
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Ive owned a C5,& driven a C6...I think the comparison is moot...The E55 is a 4 dr sedan,not a 2 seat sportscar.
Just my $.02
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I've owned corvettes and will be picking up the new C6 Z06 when it is out.
They are definitely great cars for the money and are easily modified for more horsepower. The new Z06 will be lightning quick so it will be hard to keep up with them.. The main issue the corvette has is putting the power down to the pavement.
If you catch one with a not-so-skilled driver, you will probably get him down low, but if he can drive, I think the Z06 will be in front.
They are definitely great cars for the money and are easily modified for more horsepower. The new Z06 will be lightning quick so it will be hard to keep up with them.. The main issue the corvette has is putting the power down to the pavement.
If you catch one with a not-so-skilled driver, you will probably get him down low, but if he can drive, I think the Z06 will be in front.
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Is 65k the going sticker price? What is the markup? In my neck of the woods and I work in the business I hear some dealers talking 10k. 75k for a Vette is a little high IMO but those performance numbers are crazy. It is apples and oranges in comparisons but they are going to be made. I love my car but I am sure I would love the Vette too.
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65.8 is msrp and most large vette dealers with allocation are selling at msrp. its the 1 or 2 z dealers who are gouging. mines been on order for 6 months, cant wait, never owned a chevy before.
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I imagine if you didn't get on the wait list early, be prepared to spend $10-15k over MSRP. I am most impressed with this car. I always said that I would never own a Ford or a Corvette. Well, I recently purchased a Power Stroke Diesel F250 Harley-Davidson because, as much as I dislike Ford, the truck is the best heavy duty out there IMO. The 2006 Z06 is the first Corvette ever that I would actually pursue. I really wish I had gotten on the wait list.
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Quickest Stock Z06 on dragtimes.com ran 11.7, BUT upon further inspection, it looks like some type of estimate or something.
Actual numbers SO FAR from the C6 Z51 (not that many on the street yet) from Dragtimes.com have them at 12.499* 110.410 8.025 88.600 1.793 72.0 Breathless Performance Car C6
Am sure we will get more numbers as they start hitting the streets in mass.
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Actual numbers SO FAR from the C6 Z51 (not that many on the street yet) from Dragtimes.com have them at 12.499* 110.410 8.025 88.600 1.793 72.0 Breathless Performance Car C6
Am sure we will get more numbers as they start hitting the streets in mass.
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Lets assume the Vette is 1 second faster and same tops speed... Can it seat 5? Is it built to get into accidents at 100+ mph and have people walk away (documented)?
Does it have the prestige of an MB?
Is the fit and finish the same?
Does it have the prestige of an MB?
Is the fit and finish the same?
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I attempted to drive one of the new C6 Corvettes at a launch party. Problem is, if you're over 6'2" things are going to be tight. I'm 6'7"/225 lbs. and I could not drive the car -- there was no way to fit me in and close the door. I like the looks of the car but do not like the interior. Even at it's price point I found it poorly designed and executed.
That being said, you couldn't ask for more of an "Apples vs. Oranges" question. A stock Z06 will blow a stock E55 into the weeds; it's faster in a straight line and weighs at least 800 pounds less. Once you get to anything with curves the Vette will go from gone to long gone...
I own an E55 Wagon and am crazy about it. It is an interesting 85% compromise: 85% as quick as the 911S I had on order (quickness being around corners as well as straight-line speed) while holding 85% of my family. As a result I can drive it 85% of the time; with the 911S (or the Vette) the fact that I live in the real world (with a wife, kids, and Costco) meant that it would be for more special driving excursions -- I might be able to drive it 25% of the time, max. This, IMHO, makes the E55 wagon a killer compromise for me. One might do the math like this:
911S: $100,000 X 25% = $25,000
E55W: $90,000 X 85% = $76,500
Sure, making the perfect heel/toe throttle blipped downshift while carving down Highway One simply can't be quantified, but my E55 wagon still gives me quite a few of those "sh*t-eating grin" moments...
That being said, you couldn't ask for more of an "Apples vs. Oranges" question. A stock Z06 will blow a stock E55 into the weeds; it's faster in a straight line and weighs at least 800 pounds less. Once you get to anything with curves the Vette will go from gone to long gone...
I own an E55 Wagon and am crazy about it. It is an interesting 85% compromise: 85% as quick as the 911S I had on order (quickness being around corners as well as straight-line speed) while holding 85% of my family. As a result I can drive it 85% of the time; with the 911S (or the Vette) the fact that I live in the real world (with a wife, kids, and Costco) meant that it would be for more special driving excursions -- I might be able to drive it 25% of the time, max. This, IMHO, makes the E55 wagon a killer compromise for me. One might do the math like this:
911S: $100,000 X 25% = $25,000
E55W: $90,000 X 85% = $76,500
Sure, making the perfect heel/toe throttle blipped downshift while carving down Highway One simply can't be quantified, but my E55 wagon still gives me quite a few of those "sh*t-eating grin" moments...
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The Z06 will be awesome as is the E55. Since they are completely different kind of cars, you need to put 1000 lbs in the vette to make things a little more equal.
I'll bet this kind of thread is on the bimmer forums comparing the m5 to the chevy.
I'll bet this kind of thread is on the bimmer forums comparing the m5 to the chevy.
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If you do consider a Z06, make sure u wait for the second year production.
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Why do you say that? I have been to Criswell numerous times inquiring about the new Z06 and according to the numbers this car is the best bang for the buck (performancewise). By the way we are going to have a cruise down GW parkway on saturday if you and Mike are interested.
Been out of town often last few weeks for work and want to make my little girls swim lesson on Saturday and then entertaining friends at the house. I agree with you on the Z06, but I never buy a first year production car as a rule of thumb.
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I think everyone should own an E55 and a Vette. Completely different experiences and both are great. After spending $20k on mods in 15 years I can truely say I love my Vette, but I can't put my family with all their stuff and go to Florida on vacation in it. I'll be getting a new Z06 or a Kleemanized SLK 55 in two years when my wife needs a new car.
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Quickest Stock Z06 on dragtimes.com ran 11.7, BUT upon further inspection, it looks like some type of estimate or something.
Actual numbers SO FAR from the C6 Z51 (not that many on the street yet) from Dragtimes.com have them at 12.499* 110.410 8.025 88.600 1.793 72.0 Breathless Performance Car C6
Am sure we will get more numbers as they start hitting the streets in mass.
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Actual numbers SO FAR from the C6 Z51 (not that many on the street yet) from Dragtimes.com have them at 12.499* 110.410 8.025 88.600 1.793 72.0 Breathless Performance Car C6
Am sure we will get more numbers as they start hitting the streets in mass.
Dragtimes Vette posts
FWIW, a close friend has a 2004 Z06 and ran a best of 11.9@115 stock (1.79 60'). Keep in mind he's an incredible driver...he did that on the stock tires, at Atco Raceway in NJ. It's rare, but guys do run 11's stock in the C5 Z06 (02-04). They're usually good for mid-low 12s at about 113-115 MPH. The new Z06 will certainly be a barnburner!
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Originally Posted by Vetluver
I think everyone should own an E55 and a Vette. Completely different experiences and both are great. After spending $20k on mods in 15 years I can truely say I love my Vette, but I can't put my family with all their stuff and go to Florida on vacation in it. I'll be getting a new Z06 or a Kleemanized SLK 55 in two years when my wife needs a new car.
That has perked my interest
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Lets assume the Vette is 1 second faster and same tops speed... Can it seat 5? Is it built to get into accidents at 100+ mph and have people walk away (documented)?
Does it have the prestige of an MB?
Is the fit and finish the same?
Does it have the prestige of an MB?
Is the fit and finish the same?
The answer to each question is "no", except maybe on the "prestige" issue. Prestige is a little vague. Moreover, most people don't notice our E55's from the thousands of garden variety E320s and E350's on our roads. A knowledgeable car enthusiast that knows what our E55's are will also know, and admire, what the Z06 is. But if you are buying a Z06, you are doing it for different reasons anyway.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Why do you say that? I have been to Criswell numerous times inquiring about the new Z06 and according to the numbers this car is the best bang for the buck (performancewise). By the way we are going to have a cruise down GW parkway on saturday if you and Mike are interested.
Plus, let's not forget that the 2001 Z06 with 385 hp was replaced in 2002 by the 405 hp version. I'd be pissed if I spent 50 large on the "fastest" vette to be "one-upped" after only a few months.
Never buy first year.