E55 AMG vs. M5 video 120mb
08-25-2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
I just can't believe magazines are even comparing the brand new M5 to a model developed nearly 5 years ago. That's like comparing today's laptop to the laptop 5 years ago.
I say compare them next year with the new 6.3 and the CLS handling improvments. Lighter car...510 hp...and CLS handling on the E should at least put a smurk on the guys face.....at least we'll be a little closer to the M on the track.
Grrrrrrrrrr
I say compare them next year with the new 6.3 and the CLS handling improvments. Lighter car...510 hp...and CLS handling on the E should at least put a smurk on the guys face.....at least we'll be a little closer to the M on the track.
Grrrrrrrrrr
The E55 rolled out in Fall 2003 and the M5 debuted in Spring 2005! And don't bring the argument that the engine was in the SL 55 in 2002 because it was NOT in the E55 until a year and a half later. As for the 6.3, MB can put in a 7.3L and it wouldn't change the opinions of most journalists. This journalist isn't criticizing the awesome torque and power of the E55, but rather the sub par handling of the car. MB has never been able to equal the handling of a BMW. They are two different cars: MB is an ultra luxurious cruiser, while the BMW is a sportier ride with emphasis on the driveability of the car
08-25-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mez456
Lap times by the Stig on Top Gear:
Mez
1. Maserati MC12 1.18.9
2. Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0
3. Ariel Atom 1.19.5
4. Porsche Carerra GT 1.19.8
5. Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1.20.9
6. Ford GT 1.21.9
7. Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3
8. Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
9. Murcielago 1.23.7
10. Zonda 1.23.8
11. Koenigsegg 1.23.9
12. Sagaris 1.24.6
13. Tuscan 1.24.8
14. Evo FQ 400 1.24.8
15. Noble 1.25.0
16. Gallardo 1.25.8
17. Aero 8 GTN 1.25.9
18. BMW M5 1.26.2
19. Lotus Exige 1.26.4
20. Ferrari 575 GTC 1.26.8
21. Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8
22. Aston Martin Vanquish S 1.27.1
23. Porsche 911 GT3 1.27.2
24. Spyker C8 1.27.3
25. TVR 350C 1.27.5
26. Wiesmann 1.27.9
27. BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
28. Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
29. MG SV 1.28.6
30. Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9
31. Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
32. Mercedes CL65 1.29
33. BMW Alpine Z8 1.29.0
34. Impreza STi WRX WR1 1.29.4
35. Alfa 3.7 GTA 1.30.0
36. Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
37. Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4
38. Audi S4 1.30.9
39. Porsche 911 turbo 1.31.0
40. Vauxhall VX 220 turbo 1.31.3
41. Honda NSX Type R 1.31.6
42. Mazda RX8 1.31.8
43. Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
44. BMW M3 1.31.8
45. Ford Focus RS 1.32.2
46. Lotus Esprit V8 1.32.5
47. Audi TT V6 1.32.7
48. E-Type 1.32.8
49. MG ZT 1.33
50. Noble 1.33.1
51. Volkswagen Golf R32 1.33.2
52. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1.33.2
53. Cadillac CTS-V 1.33.3
54. Clio Cup 1.33.8
55. Holden Monaro 1.33.9
56. Volvo S60R 1.35.0
57. Alfa 147 GTA 1.35.6
58. Lotus Elise 1.35.6
59. Renault Clio v6 1.36.2
60. Honda Civic Type R 1.36.5
61. Saab 95 hot aero 1.37.9
62. Mazzer 1.38.0
63. Bowler Wildcat 1.39.4
64. Bentley Arnarge 1.40.8
65. Overfinch 1.44.0
66. DB5 1.46.0
Notice the cars that it beat around the track. Not bad for not being a sports car. .4 seconds behind the Gallardo.2. Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0
3. Ariel Atom 1.19.5
4. Porsche Carerra GT 1.19.8
5. Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1.20.9
6. Ford GT 1.21.9
7. Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3
8. Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
9. Murcielago 1.23.7
10. Zonda 1.23.8
11. Koenigsegg 1.23.9
12. Sagaris 1.24.6
13. Tuscan 1.24.8
14. Evo FQ 400 1.24.8
15. Noble 1.25.0
16. Gallardo 1.25.8
17. Aero 8 GTN 1.25.9
18. BMW M5 1.26.2
19. Lotus Exige 1.26.4
20. Ferrari 575 GTC 1.26.8
21. Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8
22. Aston Martin Vanquish S 1.27.1
23. Porsche 911 GT3 1.27.2
24. Spyker C8 1.27.3
25. TVR 350C 1.27.5
26. Wiesmann 1.27.9
27. BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
28. Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
29. MG SV 1.28.6
30. Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9
31. Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
32. Mercedes CL65 1.29
33. BMW Alpine Z8 1.29.0
34. Impreza STi WRX WR1 1.29.4
35. Alfa 3.7 GTA 1.30.0
36. Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
37. Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4
38. Audi S4 1.30.9
39. Porsche 911 turbo 1.31.0
40. Vauxhall VX 220 turbo 1.31.3
41. Honda NSX Type R 1.31.6
42. Mazda RX8 1.31.8
43. Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
44. BMW M3 1.31.8
45. Ford Focus RS 1.32.2
46. Lotus Esprit V8 1.32.5
47. Audi TT V6 1.32.7
48. E-Type 1.32.8
49. MG ZT 1.33
50. Noble 1.33.1
51. Volkswagen Golf R32 1.33.2
52. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1.33.2
53. Cadillac CTS-V 1.33.3
54. Clio Cup 1.33.8
55. Holden Monaro 1.33.9
56. Volvo S60R 1.35.0
57. Alfa 147 GTA 1.35.6
58. Lotus Elise 1.35.6
59. Renault Clio v6 1.36.2
60. Honda Civic Type R 1.36.5
61. Saab 95 hot aero 1.37.9
62. Mazzer 1.38.0
63. Bowler Wildcat 1.39.4
64. Bentley Arnarge 1.40.8
65. Overfinch 1.44.0
66. DB5 1.46.0
Mez
You forgot to mention the CLS 55 time of 1:26.9 (half a second slower than the M5)
08-25-2005, 05:22 PM
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'03 G500, '13 G63, '17 GLS63,
Originally Posted by RezF
Five years ago!!!!
The E55 rolled out in Fall 2003 and the M5 debuted in Spring 2005! And don't bring the argument that the engine was in the SL 55 in 2002 because it was NOT in the E55 until a year and a half later.
As for the 6.3, MB can put in a 7.3L and it wouldn't change the opinions of most journalists. This journalist isn't criticizing the awesome torque and power of the E55, but rather the sub par handling of the car. MB has never been able to equal the handling of a BMW. They are two different cars: MB is an ultra luxurious cruiser, while the BMW is a sportier ride with emphasis on the driveability of the car
The E55 rolled out in Fall 2003 and the M5 debuted in Spring 2005! And don't bring the argument that the engine was in the SL 55 in 2002 because it was NOT in the E55 until a year and a half later. As for the 6.3, MB can put in a 7.3L and it wouldn't change the opinions of most journalists. This journalist isn't criticizing the awesome torque and power of the E55, but rather the sub par handling of the car. MB has never been able to equal the handling of a BMW. They are two different cars: MB is an ultra luxurious cruiser, while the BMW is a sportier ride with emphasis on the driveability of the car
08-25-2005, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mez456
You are correct Erik. I am not sure which ones were done on a wet surface but the M5 has a pretty damn good time.
To say it is not a sports car is true. To say that it can not be copared to a sports car is not.
I also just watched the CLS55 top gear review. Stig took the CLS55 around the track in 1:26.9
Mez
To say it is not a sports car is true. To say that it can not be copared to a sports car is not.
I also just watched the CLS55 top gear review. Stig took the CLS55 around the track in 1:26.9
Mez
The M3 CSL was done at a wet and cold track with the R tires, and that is an awsome result.
R tires does NOT like it wet and cold combined.....
Normal temp and dry surface would probably make it severall seconds faster....
The 996 GT3 was also run in the wet, but that car had normal tires on that are much better on such condition, the GT3 was also the fastest wet times recorded when the test was done.
08-25-2005, 09:31 PM
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02 E55
Well M5 is a superb car that's for sure )).
But what's up with the tire squeal? I saw another video and this things squeals like battalion of pigs!
And engine sounds like bad Honda Civik engine.
Otherwise great car.
but in perfect I would buy both.
E55 has much more nice sounding engine. It doesn't squeal - it smokes em tires!
I saw couple of videos on racingflix.com where M5 acts as a chase car in Ferrari, Porchse e.t.c. drag racing and it is actually faster then those cars, looks very evil pulling away from them.
But what's up with the tire squeal? I saw another video and this things squeals like battalion of pigs!
And engine sounds like bad Honda Civik engine.
Otherwise great car.
but in perfect I would buy both.
E55 has much more nice sounding engine. It doesn't squeal - it smokes em tires!
I saw couple of videos on racingflix.com where M5 acts as a chase car in Ferrari, Porchse e.t.c. drag racing and it is actually faster then those cars, looks very evil pulling away from them.
