Jakpro1

Hey Raf, I know I need to probably go to actual driving school, but are there any websites that I could visit that could give me some basics on circuit racing techniques. We have a brand new track opening up out here Spring 06 and I really wanna get involved in this next year.

Should be a lot of fun.

Thanks again for any info.

http://www.millermotorsportspark.com/index.cfm

Vetluver

My mistake, I thought the 05 911 TTs were the 997s. Obviously the 05TT must be hold over 996s. Guess my friend is waiting on the new 997TT. I just have to see how fast n quick it is. Maybe I'll have my K3 upgrade by then! :v

E552006

Rafal

You know how to drive your car!
Great lines

BMWEATR

I've been at the strip w/ a new tt and he sucked a$$. that guy jaks talking about is a idiot, you should of CALLED HIM OUT JAK!! let the beast have a snack! the only substitute for a porsche IS A E55!

Rafal

You're too kind, thanks

FThornton666

The Porsche Line up is more confusing than learning a second language.

The Current Porsche Line up for America that can be bought at a dealer today

Carrera GT
Cayenne Turbo
Cayenne S
Cayenne
Boxster 987
Boxster S 987
Cayman S -Coming very soon-
-997 Models New bettle headlights-
911 Carrera S
911 Carrera
911 Carrera Cabriolet
911 Carrera S Cabriolet
-996 Wider Headlights-
911 Turbo
911 Turbo S
911 4S Cabriolet
911 4S
911 Turbo Cabrio
911 Turbo S Cabrio


Sad thing is thats not even the end of it. By the end of the year the 997 Model group will include a Targa Version, and a C4S version. Also the Cayenne is suppose to be going Targa too. Not to mention all the Porsches look alike, and unless your a porsche head i doubt you could tell a GT2 from a GT3 from a 911 Carrera S from the front view.

stevebez

A Porsche 911 Turbo has always been my dream car. I went to have a look at one a while back and honestly there is less space for bags than in a Ferris 360. No jokes. Think the GT2 has more space but only just - but thats quite a bit more dough for around 30-40 hp more go.

Anyhow with a 7 month old boy a TT does not make any sense ... so I started looking around ... Hello ! E55 ? Nice ... gave it a try and blimey it blew my socks off. Comfortable ride - can seat 5 people - and carry decent amount of luggage. Also wife can drive it no probs...

No brainer ... the fact that it runs the TT so close is cherry on top. I guess I will always have a soft spot for the TT as its the dream car I grew up with ... maybe that will all change when my E55 arrives.

NOTHING beats a blown motor for thrilling driving.

Rgds Steve.

rbc55

i posted earlier in the week about my race with a 996 twin turbo cabriolet,which, believe it or not only weighs 150 lbs. more than a coupe,the answer to your question whether they can run sub 4 sec 0-60 times is yes. but only found one 3.9 from a turbo cab like i raced,most times cab or coupe range 4.0 to 4.3.the guy i ran was a good driver and edged me half a car from 60 to 110 then i started running him down and was dead even at 120 when we had to slow due to traffic ahead,but i was pulling him at he end,advantage 2.65 rear ratio,his mid range was stronger due to his gearing. average driver 0-60, e55 probably will never lose.

Jspeed

From my experience racing against a friend's 996 Turbo (with power package) compared to a couple of motorway encounters with the W211 E55 and SL55, I found that the Porsche was a little faster even at high speeds. Perhaps it is because my friend was a very good driver. I was in a heavily modded Evo.

However Jakpro, judging by what you have done to your car, you should have no problems taking the 911 whatsover. I have raced with many bikes and cars before and the fastest thing I have ever come up against was a Brabus SV12. That beast will make the Porsche look like it was standing still, especially at high speeds, and I presume your car would be somewhere in between that and a standard E55.

By the way, 2 months ago I was in a CLS55 and we tried a series of sprints from different speeds against a friend's RS6 (420bhp version). The verdict was quite comprehensive. From 1st gear the CLS would completely OWN the RS6 (2 car lengths in 1 gear !! ). In the higher gears the CLS would still walk away although not as much as from a standstill.

JamE55

You actually came up against an SV12? Whoa! How was that and what was your experience running against it? Not a lot of those out there.

Jspeed

That's the only good thing about driving in London, you see more 360 Modenas around than Honda Civics and the ratio of M3s to 320is is like 500:1!

Anyway, not trying to start a flame war here with this story, but the car I drove at the time was a 450-470bhp Evo 6 (never dynoed) which was able to pull away marginally from my friend's "X50" 996TT. One night I came up behind a black SL at the lights with a Brabus badge and SV12 on the back with 4 exhausts but not sure what kind of spec the car had. When the lights turned green he floored it - the car was loud as hell, he fishtailed and took off in a cloud of black smoke! Obviously I followed him but there was no real road to race until we approached a narrow bend which led onto a empty straight dual carriageway. I followed behind him into the bend and he floored it first out of the corner and I couldn't catch him. Any other car I raced with I could catch up or at least eventually keep the gap constant but this fella was just pulling away! It was a mistake letting him go first I thought to myself.

Then we got caught in some traffic and bends before emerging onto a clear 3-lane motorway. This time I was in front and had the chance to not only come on boost first, but also make better use of my huge *** turbo with longer gearing ( I was in 3rd or 4th gear as opposed to 1st earlier on). So my car shot onto the motorway pulling a couple of car lengths courtesy of the headstart. However, the next time I looked in the mirror, I saw the most sickening sight, SL headlights on my ***!! WTF??! I am usually able to pull away from SL55s even at these speeds. I nearly threw up. I went home to check out the Brabus website and supposedly the SV12 had over 1000Nm of torque! I didn't feel better after that. You just can't forget such monstrosity. I wouldn't doubt a single Nm of that figure after that experience ...

JamE55

That's an SV12 for you! So now you're going to get one right?

FThornton666

Well if its SV12 thenyou gotta talk about RUF, or Gembella or TechArt.

JamE55

I still remember the video SV12 vs Ruf 550! Excellent video. The begining was all about the SV12 but after the Ruf "opened" up with it's taller gearing it was all over for the SV12.

Jspeed

When I have the money maybe. Or the SL65 ... :p

JamE55

SL65 + Kleemann or RennTech ECU =

dragonAMG

FYI - There were 2 TT 911's at the track here in Vegas running 13.0 - 13.2's just the other night.

zoink

What a psycho metaphor, dude!! Can't you use something else?

Heh?? Hot days or dumb driver? TT tip should go mid to low 12's and X50 tip should go low to sub 12's.

Owning a C4S manual before, I came to conclusion that p-car was quite hard to master even though it's AWD. Even until I sold it, I still couldn't sync my leg for the clutch and my hand for the shifter well enough. I felt the clutch was too long. I tracked my C4S once and could only get low 14's. Good drivers average mid to high 13's, I think. Even I was faster w/ my '01 E55 (mid to low 13's).

Back to original topic.... Jak (or Jack?), I think w/ your K2 should be comparable w/ a tip X50. 1/4 mile around low to sub 12's, right? So don't be afraid.... challenge him. Worst comes to worst, if he's a very good driver, he would just slowly walk you on a track, if at all. But on the track, I still put my hands on TT for its better handling.

James, what's your S8 1/4? I guess you should be able to keep up w/ X50, huh? Impressive....

Rafal.... nice race. It seems very slow in the video.... there was not even any drift :v

dragonAMG

Very hot... 95-98 degress and 2,200 ft. elevation. My car ran 12.5 the same day when it should easily put down high mid-high 11's.

Blocktrader

Here is a bit of info for the next time you run into this jacka$$.

First a primer in lay terms. Imagine putting your hand over the hose on a vacuum cleaner. The motor speeds up. The reason is that without the air to spin, there is less work for the motor to do.

Now with cars: The guy is probably confused because in the case of a turbo car this would be mostly true. The turbo will just spin faster until it makes enough pressure to open the wastegate. The wastegate will open at the same psi at 5000 ft as it would at sea level. The difference will be that the compressor will spin faster to make that pressure. S/C's differ from the turbo (and even the vacuum) in that the source that provides the power to run the S/C also directly controls the speed, so when the load is reduced the compressor can't spin faster to make up for it.

If you want to really shut him up you could bring up the fact that the MB uses a positive displacement S/C. This differs drom a turbo or any other centrifigul blower in that it produces its boost more like this: Imagine an engine, twice the size of the one in the E55, mounted in front of the car. It does not burn anything, it just pumps roughly 11 liters of air. It spins at the same speed as the E55 engine The outlet of this engine then pumps directly into the intake of the E55 engine, however since the E55 engine is only 5.4L the air becomes compressed. Now if the air coming into the big engine is less dense, it will put less air into the E55 engine.

In reality, on the E55 they use a blower that is probably more like 2.5 liters or so, and then just spin it a 4 or 5 times the engine speed to make it work like its much bigger, but the principal is the same......or you could just meet the idiot at the track and when you turn a better time say "Gee, I guess it's not an airplane."

zoink

Quick question to either James or DragonAMG.

What's the difference between S7 and S8? It seems both have ECU, LSD, S/C and exhaust.

Is S8 worth the $$$ over S7? How different is on-the-wheel numbers and resulting 1/4? What's the $$$ difference?

Not that it matters to me anymore, but would it void your warranty?

I've been asking and/or lurking over Kleeman mods for couple months now partially b/c of James' claim it'd be noticably faster than W211.... but still not sure (will never be sure, I guess ) that the $$$ better spent on another car or the mods (James, no need to give your response to this consideration... I know your answer already :p )

IdriveFast

LOL a stock 996TT CANNOT to 3.5. This moron is talking out of his ***! If i was there I would have definetly put him in his ignorant place. If he is stock, I bet you could beat him. What kind of moron says altitude doesnt have anything to do with blowers!?!

Jakpro1

Oh yeah, one last tidbit for ya.

We also got into the Supercharger is not a Blower volley.

Me "Wow, you're Porsche must be really fast......me? I've got a blown Benz....LOVE IT...just get killed at altitude"

D-head "You mean supercharger..."

Me "Yeah, so the blower can't get enough....."

Headster " you mean SUPERCHARGER" (as if they are different)

pause for a sec......"so the blower can't get enough air...."



from a random encyclopedia

A supercharger (also known as a blower, a positive displacement pump or a centrifugal pumper) is a gas compressor used to pump air into the cylinders of an internal combustion engine.

skratch77

dont forget that his car is all wheel drive so that really helps him take off if he knows how to drive it.

theres so many options for those cars so it depends on wut he has.Iv seen some giac tuned 911s putting 550 to the wheels with no problems

but from the sound of it hes just talking out his *** with a stock car and knows nothing about the e55

put him in his place and race him for some cash

medici78

550 to the wheels on just a GIAC tune?
Sounds like YOU are talking out of your ***.