MG0427

ok let me rephrase, the e55 =family car with power

cls55- sports car with power

yes same platform, but built for two different demographic

I hope am not fueling the fire, that my presepective; does anyone agree or disagree? I am curious. Do you guy's think the E55 is sportier and is faster then the CLS55. Please everyone answer, I would love to see the overall consensus. Please be honest, whether you own a E55 or CLS55, two great cars that you can't go wrong with.

SleeperX

December 2004 Motor Trend shows the E55 doing 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, whereas the most recent issue of Motor Trend has the CLS doinfg 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. Quarter mile for E55 was 12.4, whereas the most recent issue which has the CLS has a quarter mile time of 12.7.

Has anyone read the February 2006 Road & Track comparing the M5 to the M6. Which do you think is faster . One would assume that the M6 is due to it being more aeordynamic, but its not. At least not off the line. Off the line, the M5 is quicker due to its more even weight distribution.

SleeperX

All bets are off. Just found this article:
A super-performance CLS is expected this fall. Like the recently added versions of Mercedes' SL convertible and big CL coupe, the upcoming CLS65 AMG packs a 6.0-liter twin-turbocharged V12 with 604 hp, plus the usual chassis and cosmetic enhancements expected of Mercedes' performance division. Price is likely to top $100,000, but the CLS65 should be even more exclusive than the CLS55, which is limited to only some 1500 U.S. sales per year. Otherwise, the CLS line should see only minor near-term changes.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...wall?print=yes

A CLS65? I hope they are going to make an E55? Unbelievable. The E55 has a new baby sibling that is getting all the attention...

MG0427

The saleperson who sold me my car is a good friend and the Sales Manager at a major MB dealer in NJ, and she believe the same. The CLS55 is hot right now and has stolen the thunder from the E55. Their e55 sales have become cls55 sales.

TopGun32

we have yet to see an CLS55 hit low 12's... on a 1/4 mile..

We have seen a bunch of E55's be around 12.1 to 12.2 and some as low as 12.0x..

of course altitude, weather, humidity all play a factor and depending on where you live, but to this date most CLS55 run 12.5+


by the way, it looks like Motortrend tested in bad weather or poor track conditions, since 12.7 for a 55k motor seems a bit high

MB Fanatic

The CLS 55 is faster than the E55. Period. I can tell you that the CLS is faster because it has a distinct weight distribution advantage over the E.

Drag here wont play a big difference IMO here since there are many sports cars that have much higher drag coeffiecitents and what have you. I will tell you that the CLS also handles better than the E55. Is it due to its larger wheels, maybe. Perhaps the revsied suspension and steering rack? maybe.

Hell, the M6 is faster than the M5.

adx

Why are we having a CLS55 vs E55 discussion. They are both great cars, I should know since I have both. Anyways, the CLS55 doesn't seem to be any faster but definitely handles better.

jordan

Help me out...if the M5 is faster to 100 mph how can the CLS be faster in the 1/4 mile. Did it speed up and slow down from 100 mph-113.6 mph. It looks like the M should be faster in the 1/4 as it is going faster at 100mph. Sketchy testing.........

OzE55

According to the Australian MBZ website -

CLS55=2385kg
E55=2360kg

Remember the specs and options may vary between countries but this means the CLS is 63lbs more....less than half a tank of gas.

cte430

The CLS is NOT a sports car. Neither is the E. Have you ever had either car on a road course? I think you'd be surprised. I've mentioned this many times before but while doing 2 AMG Challenges over the summer at Lime Rock many drivers and more importantly, the pro drivers (Jeff Andretti, Tommy Kendall, etc.) all said the E was better around the track. There are other members who did the Challenge at other courses and reported the same. That was on a race track. maybe on the road in day to day driving the CLS feels like the better handling car. Don't know. But don't mistake either car for a great handling car.

Tony007

I'm heading to the dyno this morning and while I'm there I'm going to ask around & see if I can find a place in central FL to weigh my CLS 030. That should shed some light on the whole weight subject.

Don't get your panties in a ruffle over the E55 vs. CLS55. They are awesome cars. I hope I can eventually square up with one on the street and give him a try. Although K2 might have a slight advantage, that is of course unless he has the same. Lots of K cars in central FL

Oh, BTW, I did have a chance a couple weeks ago to race a CL55 vs my CLS55 (bone stock) from a stoplight and from a roll. I beat him from the dig to 90mph by at least 3-4 lengths. We both had two people in the car and were both really trying. I hooked really well and he didn't appear to. Too much spin.. From a roll it was the same thing though, I was pulling on him nicely. Now I know that car IS alot heavier. We both waved and I gave him a big & we went our separate ways.

Fikse

are you dynoing your CLS?

cte430

The CLS is definitely the darling of MB and I will bet there will be no "super" E. They don't even offer the 030 package on the E. That's unfortunate and if true would most likely have me leaving MB. I do not like the CLS at all and if forced to choose to would get an M5, or keep my E and get used 997S or in a few years a used Vantage 8 to keep in the garage. Now, the best of both worlds Besides, 600 HP is almost to impossible to put down. I know, I'm approaching that figure with my K2 It will really be interesting to see if MB continues their tradition of stuffing big engines in cars that, let's face it folks, can't handle it chasis wise. You would think they'd get tired of being ***** slapped by M where in every review you read the same complaint about MB cars. "Vague feeling", "nose heavy", blah blah blah.

MG0427

great looking forward to your number, I will be going to the dyno on Wed. to test my K4.

Also how do you like the cls 030 steering wheel, it's alcantra? right. Does it feel thick? How do you think it's going to hold? The material that is.

MG

Ted Baldwin

..............I have had a deposit on a CLS65 for almost 2 years now, ever since I heard the first rumor about the car. The last info I heard was that the car will not be made. Is your information more current? I hope this is true.

Ted

TopGun32

please provide factual proof for this claim. CLS55 is faster?

If you go to dragtimes.com you will see that there are a bunch of E55 running better times than the CLS55.. it is a slight difference in favor of the E55.

by they way, the E55 Touring is faster than the E sedan and CLS coupe/sedan. Due to more weight in the rear.

Either way, it will be a driver's race. It is up to the Reation time.

You hesitate 1/2 a second, you will loose if the power of the cars are equal.

Draf Coefficiency is very important once you get to the 3 digits speeds.

Grumpy666

In one parameter, you're measuring how long it takes to reach a certain speed. In the other parameter, you're measuring how long it takes to reach a certain distance. Two entirely different metrics.

xraymd

We'll see. At RoadAmerica last July, Rob Allen said the CLS65 "will never happen." They could jam the V12 into the engine bay, but there wasn't enough room to make it crash-worthy. Now if they could turbo-charge the new 6.3L . . . .

rvmasi

If you only look at the 0-100mph time, these are two well-matched autos. In the 0-150mph run, the M5 is several seconds quicker. At 150mph, you're traveling at about 220 ft per second. I believe the difference was about 4 seconds (can't recall exactly). So, this suggests that the M5 at 150mph was 880 ft ahead of the CLS. That translates to about 55 car lengths. Holly moley!

Fikse

absolutely, no way an M5 would be this far ahead.....

Justins123

Your math is a bit flawed. I'll give you a hint - the CLS did not magically come to a complete stop.

Tony007

Yep, the CLS got dyno'ed today.

Tony007

I just love this steering wheel!! It's so very comfortable. The Alcantara is holding up like new. In fact it looks like it's never been touched, car has 2500 mi already. It looks to be very durable and I suspect it will look to be "more new" than the leather part of the wheel in a couple years from now.

To wash it down you just dampen a microfiber towel with a gentle soapy water solution like woolite and wipe off.

MG0427

so what are the dyno results?

Jakpro1

Only 1 CLS on dragtimes and she comes in at 12.3.

That's pretty hot, but here is the catcher....60' time....2.0!!!!

That means he just hammered it off the line and ran 12.3. Imagine if he got a good launch....with a 1.7-1.8 60', who knows what that thing would have run bone stock.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-5559.html