stevebez

In May issue of UK "CAR" mag...

E63 out in June ... in N/A form.

CLK63 & CLS63 in autumn.

C class gets detuned version with 450bhp in 2007.

6.3 motor will get mild boost turbo version "Hammer I" (571bhp / 664lbft) and higher pressure turbo version "Hammer II" (707bhp / 885lbft - limited to 737lbft in first and second to save tranny).

SL & S class remain with the old V8 and V12 ... for now.

So blowers are toast ... but turbo's will continue.

There we go ... I will certainly book a test on the E63 ... just to see!

Rgds Steve.

dragonAMG

Are you saying that the E55 will have the "Hammer 1" and "Hammer 2"?

stevebez

Does not say ... but think the Hammer versions will go to the SL and S class ... mbe we could see a limited edition Hammer I for the E class.

Rgds Steve.

BoBcanada

So when will it have twin turbo version? in 08?

WayneE

Steve, can you post your source?

stevebez

Sorry guys did not want to confuse - or get ya all excited!

E63 out in June - normally aspirated "stock" 514bhp / 465lbft engine.

The 6.3 will be turboed in two versions as described above. Where these motors go (or when they are due) it does not say - but looks like SL / S class and who knows mbe a ltd edition E to wack the M5 proper - but thats me wishing and speculating. Think late 2007 for the turbo versions... but thats kinda in line with the arrival of the C63 in 2007.

The CLS63 is rated at 4.5 seconds 0-62mph. Due September around 10% more expensive than the CLS55....!!!

The CLK63 is rated at 4.6 seconds 0-62mph. (detuned to 481bhp / 465lbft), Also due September.

The C63 has 450bhp detuned version out in 2007 - thats all she wrote.

Source is CAR magazine UK version. May edition - I subscribe so I get it earlier ... page 40.

Rgds Steve.

WayneE

Thanks for the info, Steve.



One of the US car rags said that we'd only see the CLK63 droptop on our shores, not the coupe. Anyone confirm?

TopGun32

God I hope not... a coupe CLK63 vs M6 would be a nice race...

I think overall around town and freeway the CLK63, and probably at the track.. the M6.

afterall the CLK63 body and suspension is dated compared to the M.

TopGun32

boosted 63's...

well... back to the drawing board for BMW.

IanSL55

Thanks for the "official" update Steve... It's exactly what many of us have been saying for months now. I hope this puts to rest the talk of a NA SL63 in 2008.

~ Ian

zoink

Holly shiet.... 6.3L engine in C-class???

I thought 5.5L is already very big for a car this small...

Isn't C-class design also due in 2007? If there is an engine change, it's not typical that MB also changes the design, correct? Otherwise, there would be too many bugs to be sorted out.

RJC

Great info and thank you! Does it say the 7 speed finally goes AMG?

ClayJ

All I can say is, YEEHAW!!!

Sounds good to me!

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istewart

Anyone heard anything else as of yet? Seems strange that they have been tight-lipped about the E63 only to say that it will launch in 2 months!! Pics and specs for the CLS63 and the CLK63 have been around since Feb. Not being neg, just curious. Rumors were that it would debut this month at the upcoming auto shows. Hope it's correct tho', wasn't expecting to get into one before Oct-Nov but maybe sooner.....

RezF

You make a very good point! I hope they don't just slap on the 63 motor on the existing E chasis as that would defeat the whole marketing ploy of "AMG taking over the complete car from the ground up"
IMO, the 63 motor on an otherwise unchanged E would be a big disappointment, the car needs better suspension, steering and brakes

stevebez

I think we see a better package, and it may be standard equipment. Think thats why the performance pack was not introduced on the E55. They rather worked the new suspension with the new engine weight etc ... than do it twice over. June release also ties in with E facelift which is due around then.

I will get onto my MB contact and ask her to book an E63 test drive and see what she says..... hehehehe.

P.S. I think all units with the 63 engine will have a new 7 speed tranny ... not sure if the 7 speeders make it into the SL / S yet though.

Rgds Steve.

stevebez

Well they dont have the pricing / info release yet but will have it "in a few weeks". Face lift model production starts in June - demo models only available in late July.

They will send info as and when it becomes available.

Rgds Steve.

MBAMGPWR

My dealership called me and said the same as above...June 2006 for the 63 AMG cars. I'd like to have a new E63 or CLS63 but I don't think I want to pay all that $$$ for a car with less torque then my current car.

NewMoses

Any good pictures of the new E63? All I can find are spy pics of thew wagon.

MiamiAMG

With those numbers i assume that it's not going to be any faster than the current E55?

IanSL55

Even with the reduced torque 45HP increase should help some don't you think?

As far as people trading in their E55's for the E63... I'd wait as the new E CLASS is due out some time in mid to late 2008.

~ Ian

MiamiAMG

Maybe. My C32 had 349hp & 332 lbft & my C55 had 362hp & 376 lbft & they had the exact same performance #'s. I tend to think that this is going to be similar, but maybe i'm wrong.

RJC

The new 7 speed will help the most for 0-60 x's but traction will always be an issue with 450lb ft of trq +

lkirchner

Horsepower is good but torque is what makes for acceleration.

RezF

If AMG makes good on their promise, the overall package should be superior to the E55. Here is what I think:
1) the 7 speed will def help keep the E63 "in the game" north of 100mph against the M5, something the E55 hasn't been doing well.
2) The torque is still competitive to keep the E63 running even against the E55 in 0-60, considering the E55 has alot of traction issues...the less torque in the case of E63 may be a blessing in disguise
3) The steering, brakes, and aerodynaics of AMG engineering should amount to something that is overall better than the E55

The only thing that would be lacking is the torque as measured by the buttometer