Jakpro1

That coming out of New York Auto Show.

So let's talk about this.....what is Benz claiming the current E55 runs 0-100KM....I believe it's 4.5 correct??

Interesting......

QUESTION....anyone wanna take a stab at whether the E63 Front Air Dam will fit on our E55's. I am LOVING that thing.

stevebez

Looks like you will need to change the bonnet grill too... which sounds doable. Also the space required for E55 radiator / coolers might be different etc ... so could be quite a project.

4.5 is quoted ... they quote 4.7 for the E55 and we all know it is quicker than that ...

Rgds Steve.

GTA7.5

Those factory times are usually conservative. I`ve seen quit a number of magazine test and TV shows about the E55s 0-60 time. Most came up with
4.3 seconds. With the E63 I believe it will achieve a 4.0-4.1second time
when American car mags get a hold of it.

stevebez

There is normally 0.1 - 0.2 between 60mph and 100kmh (~62.15mph.)

In the end of the day with these cars its probably more up to the track u using and the temps too... more than anything - assuming they use stock rubber.

How about LSD does E63 have LSD or the fangly ESP LSD wanna be stuff.

Also some of the stuff they say are selling points in the new E are already in the current version - like the active head restraint.

Rgds Steve.

BoBcanada

it doesnt even have ABC suspension, and CLK63 does. WTF!

tama_mog

Hmm....the e55 is quoted @ 4.5 from MBUSA.

Turtle25

For the 63, 4.5 s is for 0-100 km/h, or 0-62.5 mph. Often there is, as stated above, a 0.1-0.2 second difference between the figures. If the trend is consistent MBUSA should quote 4.3 s for 0-60.

SleeperX

0-60mph is quoted at 4.5
0-100kmh is quoted at 4.7
They are definitely trying to market it as being faster..Whether or not it is has yet to be tested...

CLSFanatic

New pics of E63 at http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...-benz-e-63-amg

Mad TKD

hmmm well I really dont think its going to be that much faster. Judging by the engine type and specs it will probably be faster on the top end but not by much. The standing start and low end will still be a E55s realm. I wont believe any of it until i see some indepentant testers though. As far as mod-ability the E55 will most likely be the best bet.

I'll wait until the turbo version comes out.

Just my 2psi

tama_mog

Yeah, must not have been thinking. But honestly I think the e63 should be quicker due to the better powerband of the new NA motor paired with the 7 speed. The quicker shifting probably has a lot to do with it...and perhaps like someone mentioned earlier the lower torque maybe better balanced for traction purposes.

enzom

Hate to say it, but these numbers are of limited use. When the car is out and people hit the strip, we will really know the car's potential.

In general, I think too many people spend too much time guessing and comparing magazine and manufacturer's reports. Just think back to the M5 build-up on this site the year or so before it came out.

The E63 will be out soon enough. I am sure that they will be at the strip this summer.

For me, the key is whether the car is more enjoyable to drive. A tenth or so in the quarter one way or the other does not affect me as much as whether the new car asks to be driven hard. If the new SLK55 is anything to go by, this new car should be much more of a hoot to drive.

CynCarvin32

I still think AMG must be asleep at the switch with the webpage because that is the ONLY place I have seen them quote it as having ABC. The cost to put that onto only a AMG CLK is insane and there is almost no chance the car has it in my eyes. All interior shots of the CLK63 are free of any button saying ABC SPORT so I doubt it has that system. If it does I will but a CLK63 the minitue I can figure a way to get my fingers on a hardtop version.

So dont get to angry until we know for sure the CLK has ABC.

I do love the E63 but I am not one to worry about mods and drag racing. If it drives more like an M5 I am sold. And I like high reving big V8's more than a FI V8. Something about no heat soaking and a car that has more soul that just brute force. A 3 valve motor is reall low tech. I has no variable anything while the 6.3 is light years ahead and more like a M power motor. Fantastic car IMHO.

V12Godspeed

looks good, can't wait.

Vic55

IMO it really doesnt look much different either...... E55 or M5 I know my choice but E63 or M5- that is now a tougher decision.

I think I am going to get a CLS55 and do one simple upgrade and push 550HP.

MiamiAMG

Finally, paddles instead of little buttons.

BoBcanada

i wodner what mph its gonna get at 1/4 time.

dragonAMG

IMO, the NA 6.3 is going to be a disappointment, just like the new M5.

BoBcanada

well for some reason i dont think it will be that slow

CynCarvin32

well mod wise yes botht the M5 and the E63 are not as good as an E55 but I stil think stock to stock... the E63 will be the more rewarding car to drive and own.

Better chassis, better brakes, better seats, 7g, new more aggressive looks, race car like motor with tappets etc, high redline with a thrilling rev sequence....

But I know many people are looking to stack their E55 Kleemann/RENNtech/EvoSport against a E63 in a straight line and yes those modded E55's will beat them in the 1/4 mile. No questions asked there.

Some like chassis some like power.... so we have a car for both now!

BoBcanada

May i ask why is e63 chasis is better then E55 chassis?

MiamiAMG

I was thinking the same thing.

Turtle25

The E 63 chassis is better than the E 55, we assume, because it's been retuned by Mercedes relative the original E chassis. It incorporates a lot of new technologies that Merc have developed since '03, including this Direct malarky, and 030, if it includes that at all.

But you don't have to listen to me. I think I'll shut up against until magazine articles come out. This is resistance to change normally only found in the Mideast. Then again, who can blame most AMG fans, since a lot of them already have E55s?

stevebez

The best things about the E63 is the tranny, crisper steering ratio and beter suspension setup... with exception of tranny all could be fairly easily incorporated into the E55 I would think anyway. Some additional safety features are fine - as long as they dont give problems ... remember our famous SBC ... mmm.

The 6.2L motor is at best equal to the 55K. Less torque of the 6.2L washes against its higher HP. The modability of the 55K washes against the techinically more advanced design of the 6.2L - roughly speaking of course.

So in the end neither here nor there for me ... all can only be revealed in a test drive.

The most telling thing for me though is the 6.2L motor does not find its way into the flagship models in N/A form. THAT says allot.

Also when a MB markerting lady was asked about their quality issues (at NY show) she said they had overcome allot of them already and its now more a case of repairing damage to the brand ... lets hope so.

There is plenty riding on the new (2008/9) E-class in terms of reliability thats for sure.

Rgds Steve.

E55Freak

The one thing that I haven't seen mentioned, but may have been in a different thread. The NA E63 will have the power all day long. No worries about S/C heat, failure or that annoying "chirp". How many times has a member or a new owner posted up asking why their new 55 doesn't feel as fast as they thought it would?? So the E63 does have one up already, IMO. Power on demand, even in hot weather.