W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Saw the E63 at N.Y show today...

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Old 04-18-2006, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by enzom
Your link doesn't work for me. I would love to see that race. And the 24 car length advantage in Motor Trend was, I believe, around a test track, not a straight road. Pretty big difference.

The link shoud work now. This video has been edited but as you will see the
M5 takes over at 4th gear on!


http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...aceE55vsM5.flv

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So what if the M5 is faster than the E55, the new E63 may be faster than the E55 AND the M5....plus the E55 and E63 were designed to be more of luxo ultra high performance car than the M5...BTW the interior of the M5 cannot compete with the E AMG cars in that respect.
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I was making a responce to this post.



Originally Posted by DJe55
You are making the same arguments that the M5 guys made. You do what that got them right? They were wrong! They thought the M5 was going to eat the E55's up and it didn't. It did and the E63 probably will up top but, who cares? Most of us aren't racing to 150mph. It's from a stop light to about 70 or a highway roll up to 100-110mph maybe. BTW I've seen a couple of M5's run at the track, I don't know how you could believe that it would beat an E55 by 24cars. Don't always believe what you see in video's. A lot of things could be going on.
I also believe the E63 will be faster than the M5 or E55.
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[QUOTE=GTA7.5]The link shoud work now. This video has been edited but as you will see the
M5 takes over at 4th gear on!

OK, you convinced me. My E55 is a mule, it is not worthy and I should have order the E63. Since the AMG 63 is indeed significantly faster than my mule because you said so, next year I will trade my wife's 2002 E55(the snail mobile) for the CLS63, not another E-class, and this will make my wife very happy. She wanted a CLS55 this year and I am glad she waited. God forbid she gets a junker 55 AMG like mine. So when are you getting yours? You know just talking about it is no fun. Take the plunge and write that fat check to the dealer like many of us do.

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Good luck on the CLS63, I want to get an AMG car but I can`t make up my mind between the E63 or S65. I`m really leaning toward the S65 I think.
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No longer stock '06 E55, A3 3.2 Quattro, LRD4 HSE, R107 280SL
I cannot justify going from an 2006 W211 E55 to an 2006 W211 E63 ... but can justify going to a 2008/9 W212 E63TT , and thats more than likely what I will wait for.

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Originally Posted by GTA7.5
The link shoud work now. This video has been edited but as you will see the
M5 takes over at 4th gear on!


http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...aceE55vsM5.flv
Still nothing. Sorry.
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This thread cracks me up. Let's go over the facts here....there's the stats that everyone and their grandma already knows about the new e63 including the 0-100km times....great, awesome, superb car.....goes without saying. In my opinion, the e63 should be quicker but only slightly..why? Well, the lower torque will help with the traction....that paired with the better powerband of the NA motor will help with acceleration. Yes, we all know the car is unmoddable etc etc and the e55 is just a chip/pullies away from beating the e63....but I think you guys are all forgetting something here. There are way cheaper options to make cars go fast (aka other cars that go fast and are cheap that benzes dun have much of a chance on)....The mercedes is a LUXURY sedan first and performance sedan second. These cars are just way too damn heavy and pretty much all the mods out there are just bolt ons (very good results of course, but nothing special @ all and to be expected of forced induction)....whereas other cars you can easily transform the vehicle for a fraction of the cost. I'm about 99% certain most benz owners will not feel the .2second difference anywhere on the powerband.....the thing they will feel though for sure is having less torque and it coming on later....now that's personal preference on how people like their cars if you guys want to discuss which is better. -_- The luxury features have basically remained the exact same, the looks is pretty much a very mild face lift (with an ugly badge), and the performance isn't exactly stellar compared to the e55. Yes it's a great car to have if you plan to keep it stock compared to the e55 but that's if you don't got an e55 already in my opinion, not worth it @ all to trade the car in.
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Originally Posted by enzom
Still nothing. Sorry.

Your kidding right? I just fixed it!
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Nope still nada ...
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Originally Posted by GTA7.5
Your kidding right? I just fixed it!
Not sure why it isn't working. Maybe you need to be a registered user.
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M5 v10 vs. E55 race

Ok guys the video should work now!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72879321199121
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Originally Posted by GTA7.5

Put 7 gears in e55 it will outrun m5 Period.
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Originally Posted by GTA7.5

So... it neck and neck to, what, 200kph?
That'll do me any day.
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Lame video. Why a rolling start? Cause they need to neutralize the E55s massive torque launch. I'm sure the M5 is faster north of 100 MPH, but in real-world stoplight to stoplight stuff, I'll bet it would be pretty close.
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Originally Posted by GTA7.5
Ok, an old video that show an M5 will begin to pull on a stock E55 at high speeds. Now, tell us something we don't know.

Here, I did a quick comparison of (stock) E55's and E60 M5's on Drag times. What do you think?

It gets really ugly when I include modified E55's so, I won't.

11.986* 115.800 7.724 90.930 1.770 45.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
11.987* 117.730 7.750 91.470 1.798 63.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
11.996* 117.510 7.722 91.040 1.750 30.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.007* 117.340 7.767 91.530 1.813 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
12.012* 116.580 7.760 91.820 1.808 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.035 118.300 7.950 91.850 1.950 55.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005

12.071* 116.850 7.828 90.650 1.881 55.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.071* 116.330 7.804 90.940 1.818 64.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.080* 117.550 7.806 90.430 1.792 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.105 118.320 7.902 91.640 1.925 67.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2002
12.110* 117.490 7.870 91.130 1.895 74.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
12.147 115.500 7.848 90.470 1.842 47.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.167* 117.620 7.952 92.160 2.017 50.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.169 114.140 7.822 89.450 1.784 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.170 118.100 8.040 92.100 1.900 38.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005

12.209* 116.180 1.778 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2006
12.210 114.000 76.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.222 114.220 1.799 63.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2006
12.327* 112.950 5.345 91.450 1.990 BMW M5 2006
12.332 111.820 7.907 88.050 1.796 78.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.353 115.940 8.077 90.580 2.011 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 jlp2000
12.356* 111.840 7.980 88.790 1.874 70.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
12.366* 111.750 7.949 88.570 1.854 79.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.450* 114.190 8.099 89.270 2.014 77.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005

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Rock, Those numbers look great, but where are the M5 numbers you compared them to?
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Originally Posted by KenE55
Rock, Those numbers look great, but where are the M5 numbers you compared them to?
Look harder:

11.986* 115.800 7.724 90.930 1.770 45.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
11.987* 117.730 7.750 91.470 1.798 63.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
11.996* 117.510 7.722 91.040 1.750 30.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.007* 117.340 7.767 91.530 1.813 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
12.012* 116.580 7.760 91.820 1.808 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.035 118.300 7.950 91.850 1.950 55.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005

12.071* 116.850 7.828 90.650 1.881 55.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.071* 116.330 7.804 90.940 1.818 64.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.080* 117.550 7.806 90.430 1.792 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
12.105 118.320 7.902 91.640 1.925 67.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2002
12.110* 117.490 7.870 91.130 1.895 74.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003
12.147 115.500 7.848 90.470 1.842 47.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.167* 117.620 7.952 92.160 2.017 50.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.169 114.140 7.822 89.450 1.784 65.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.170 118.100 8.040 92.100 1.900 38.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005

12.209* 116.180 1.778 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2006
12.210 114.000 76.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.222 114.220 1.799 63.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2006
12.327* 112.950 5.345 91.450 1.990 BMW M5 2006
12.332 111.820 7.907 88.050 1.796 78.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.353 115.940 8.077 90.580 2.011 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 jlp2000
12.356* 111.840 7.980 88.790 1.874 70.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
12.366* 111.750 7.949 88.570 1.854 79.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004
12.450* 114.190 8.099 89.270 2.014 77.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005
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yeh done like the mirrors...
somehow they look so dopey, and the front is too pointy IMO.. maybe im just too used to what our E55 looks like
the "pointiness" of the revised grille is cleverly offset (well, they tried) by the new horizontal lines across the headlight covers.

doesn't seem like they did a whole lot of changes, but why mess with perfection, eh?
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the pointy front makes it look like a Caddy hybrid......



Is this because of the compliance to the new pedestrian impact standard to decrease the point of impact on the pedestrian?
saw one of those XLR's in silver today. man, it's strange b/c it might end up looking really dated right away, and the interior has a let-down feel to the materials, but that's one of the most striking and HOT looking cars on the market right now (within the reasonable mortals' price range), if you ask me. cadillac needs more exciting products like that.
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Originally Posted by GTA7.5
...Opon opon throttle the E55 releases most of it`s monster torque very earily in the REV band.
"opon opon throttle": is that some kind of Native American prayer for speed or something?

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