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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Man i just got my letter today too and i just got my car back from the shop.... Do i really need to do this service call?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Who has gotten this done and what did the MB service guys have to say?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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I'm no expert, as I'm a preacher of the washer method...
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Loren...is there a thread you can point me to that explains where the washers go ? I don't want to hijack this thread ! Thanks
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Loren...is there a thread you can point me to that explains where the washers go ? I don't want to hijack this thread ! Thanks
sure... here you go:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=washer+lower

The front is really easy per this thread.

The back is trickier, but no washers are needed. There's a single unit mounted 1/3rd the width of the car from the left rear wheel up by the sway bar... search for some pictures of it. Look for a yellow and blue pair of dots near the mounting area (at least on my car). Two bolts hold the entire rack to the car... undo them and use a dremel to grind out the holes so they are longer, towards the rear of the car / floor... it becomes obvious when you're doing it, as there's not a lot of space to get picky about which way to grind out... only down or up. Go down. Don't do it much... as people have noted, 1/8" will drop you pretty well, 1/4 being a huge drop. So basically oval out those holes, mount everything back up, tightening it all towards the area you just drilled out... bingo, your rear will suddenly be an inch or so lower... I waited 6 months before doing this because I thought it would be really involved... it isn't... I had it done in a half hour after using up a few grinding tips... wear goggles for sure, though.



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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
OK. On a scale of 1 to 10, how important is this issue...10 being seriously important..
Well, my guess is its minor, and not critical you rush to your dealer. Just do it the next time you're in there getting serviced and you'll be fine. After all, many a 2003 has been on the road all these years without issue.

WHAT DOES MATTER are those people that have flashed their ECUs after pulley upgrades, etc. Two things matter:

1) If you're not aware of this recall and you go in to get your oil changed, they may just flash the ECU without telling you. It might be on your receipt, but many people won't bother to notice. This will revert things back to a stock setup which isn't ideal for your modified car to run on , as Cory noted. So, some people who are just getting oil changes this month might also get this fix and be unaware of it. That would suck and be worse for the car than the issue that prompted the recall to begin with. They need to know to get their ECU flashed again...

2) Those of us that haven't had it need to plan for it and schedule it with Kleemann, Renntech, etc...



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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Service Campaign 2006030011 APR06 Replace Secondary Air Injunction Pump Relay 2002-2006 Models 170/199/211/215/219/220/230/463 AMG

The software for the engine control unit (ECU) needs to be updated to correct a potential malfunction which could render the secondary air injection pump relay inoperable thereby affecting proper operation. Should this malfunction occur while operating the vehicle the Check Engine light in the instrument cluster (IC) will illuminate. As a precautionary measure the ECU software will be updated and the secondary air injection pump relay will be replaced.

VIN ranges:

170.466 = F227774 – F310327
199.376 = M000018 – M001032
203.065 = F131482 – F535283
211.076 = A136286 – A917813
211.276 = A715663 – A913573
215.374 = A030004 – A047689
219.376 = A007370 – A061871
220.174 = A306185 – A484676
230.474 = F009541 – F116751
463.271 = X146910 – X164172

If your VIN is not included in this list, call your dealer to check VMI.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Thanks Loren !! I haven't got the car here yet...my first MB and I can't wait to get my paws on it !!! Will the lowering adversely affect anything ???
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vader
Thanks Loren !! I haven't got the car here yet...my first MB and I can't wait to get my paws on it !!! Will the lowering adversely affect anything ???
yes... other car owners will hate you more for having such a cool ride.

just watch the dips and raise the car going through driveways that look a little bit too much. I'm trained with hitting every driveway at an angle, a good habit if you lower or get the lip on the front done...



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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
OK. On a scale of 1 to 10, how important is this issue...10 being seriously important..
i would say 10 .. wasn't there a mention on another thread that there was some connection with air injection pump and the spuradic shut off from the supercharger .. I know in the past I've pushed my car in short bursts and after the 2nd or 3rd time, the revs would just go up without any power to the wheels .. Like I've read in the other threads, it was a common problem with other owners .. so far after the fix, I havn't experienced that same occurence yet ... what have others experienced ?
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zzoned
i would say 10 .. wasn't there a mention on another thread that there was some connection with air injection pump and the spuradic shut off from the supercharger .. I know in the past I've pushed my car in short bursts and after the 2nd or 3rd time, the revs would just go up without any power to the wheels .. Like I've read in the other threads, it was a common problem with other owners .. so far after the fix, I havn't experienced that same occurence yet ... what have others experienced ?

.............Is your car modified? I wanted to see if someone with a modified ECu has had this done and had their ECU re-modified and his/her car still as fast as previous. I have this concern that when service campaign is fixed, ECU will not be so easily modified again by aftermarket tuners. Any thoughts?

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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.............Is your car modified? I wanted to see if someone with a modified ECu has had this done and had their ECU re-modified and his/her car still as fast as previous. I have this concern that when service campaign is fixed, ECU will not be so easily modified again by aftermarket tuners. Any thoughts?

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Hmmm! Hope not because my car is at the dealer now getting the ECU retuned by Mercerdes and then it is off to Renntech to get remodified..I am getting the Johnson pump put in next week and then off to the track again. I will let you know in 2-3 weeks whether or not it is slower...
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.............Is your car modified? I wanted to see if someone with a modified ECu has had this done and had their ECU re-modified and his/her car still as fast as previous. I have this concern that when service campaign is fixed, ECU will not be so easily modified again by aftermarket tuners. Any thoughts?

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Read what Cory wrote on my first entry...

"Rather than just re-loading the original modified file, we will read the program that Mercedes-Benz flashed it with, and modify that particular file, as not to loose any of the changes Mercedes-Benz made to the EPROM file."

He wouldn't say that if that weren't the case. He's doing them left an right nowadays because of this campaign...



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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Service Campaign 2006030011 APR06 Replace Secondary Air Injunction Pump Relay 2002-2006 Models 170/199/211/215/219/220/230/463 AMG

The software for the engine control unit (ECU) needs to be updated to correct a potential malfunction which could render the secondary air injection pump relay inoperable thereby affecting proper operation. Should this malfunction occur while operating the vehicle the Check Engine light in the instrument cluster (IC) will illuminate. As a precautionary measure the ECU software will be updated and the secondary air injection pump relay will be replaced.

VIN ranges:

170.466 = F227774 – F310327
199.376 = M000018 – M001032
203.065 = F131482 – F535283
211.076 = A136286 – A917813
211.276 = A715663 – A913573
215.374 = A030004 – A047689
219.376 = A007370 – A061871
220.174 = A306185 – A484676
230.474 = F009541 – F116751
463.271 = X146910 – X164172

If your VIN is not included in this list, call your dealer to check VMI.
Great info...thanks.

My late Jan production was checked and not included.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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anyone that has the K2 upgrade done the service yet?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mclarenm8d
That is correct. Secondary air injection is similar in function to an EGR valve, usually "relays" start the pump and to enable vacuum tubes to act on diaphragms that allow some exhaust back into the air intake.

EGR is Exhaust Gas Recirculation and it does exactly as you describe - injects exhaust gas in the intake to reduce NOx (I think it's NOx) emissions while cruising.

The air injection system is used during open loop at startup and injects fresh, unmetered air into the exhaust to bring the cats up to temp quicker.

IMO, it's not a major issue. But it can light your check engine light if it fails. I'm in no rush to take my car to the dealer for it, I plan to do it at my upcoming 10k mile service.

Hope that helps!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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I just had the B service performed on my SL55 which has the Renntech mods that were done by the dealer on it. The service manager advised me to do nothing on the service campaign and stated that it is no big deal. If the check engine light comes on I'll then take it to the dealer to get the flash re-done and then send it to Renntech.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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This would explain why my car's been running like complete *** lately and having supercharger shutoffs left and right. I had the car in for another issue and they must've flashed it. Running a Renntech pulley and stock software won't hurt your car but it'll drive you nuts as the s/c will cut out just about ANY time you go full throttle, back off, and get back on it. Time to send it off to Renntech...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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My stock does that all the time .. i'm going crazy with the same problem .. took it to the dealers several times and they did nothing .. there has to be some kind of recall on this problem .. why isn't anyone else raising hell about it ? it's a problem in most E55s
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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I took my car in last week. I had them replace the switch but the tech decided not to reflash the ECU. If you have a modified ECU just tell your tech you don't want him to do the re-flash. From what my tech was saying, the re-flash wasn't a big deal because the only thing that could happen is a mis-read of the ECU and it throws your check engine light on. The switch was the problem for the pump failure. If the check engine light comes on, I'll just have it re-flashed at the time. Hope this helps my fellow modders. Thanks for the heads up Loren.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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I took my car in last week. I had them replace the switch but the tech decided not to reflash the ECU. If you have a modified ECU just tell your tech you don't want him to do the re-flash. From what my tech was saying, the re-flash wasn't a big deal because the only thing that could happen is a mis-read of the ECU and it throws your check engine light on. The switch was the problem for the pump failure. If the check engine light comes on, I'll just have it re-flashed at the time. Hope this helps my fellow modders. Thanks for the heads up Loren.
Thanks for the info.... I will just wait until it happens. Dont want to lose my K2 ecu software + the hassle.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DJe55
I took my car in last week. I had them replace the switch but the tech decided not to reflash the ECU. If you have a modified ECU just tell your tech you don't want him to do the re-flash. From what my tech was saying, the re-flash wasn't a big deal because the only thing that could happen is a mis-read of the ECU and it throws your check engine light on. The switch was the problem for the pump failure. If the check engine light comes on, I'll just have it re-flashed at the time. Hope this helps my fellow modders. Thanks for the heads up Loren.
If I was running 11.30's I wouldn't want them to touch my ECU either.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Actually after the reflash,i found that after the tuners retune the car,i find it to be much faster,and more responsive.............Has anyone else have this experience?:
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Actually after the reflash,i found that after the tuners retune the car,i find it to be much faster,and more responsive.............Has anyone else have this experience?:
Faster? Well I also had the reflash done. I can't comment on whether or not it feels faster, but I am planning to go to the track this weekend. We shall see. May not be apples to apples though because I did have some work done on the car while it was in the shop...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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you had the update from MB then had RENNtech reprogram your ECU?




Originally Posted by MB_Steve
Faster? Well I also had the reflash done. I can't comment on whether or not it feels faster, but I am planning to go to the track this weekend. We shall see. May not be apples to apples though because I did have some work done on the car while it was in the shop...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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My car is going into the shop tomorrow to have it done then back to renntech for the reflash... the question is if renntech just reflashes their program onto my ecu will it lose the flash by mercedes ? I saw the post about reading to see what has been done and only change what needed to be changed. Also do all of the cars have the same ecu flash ? If there was a factory beast that ran high 11's stock.. could their ecu be read then programed onto another ecu to get similiar performance ?
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