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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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K2 Dyno graph

Attached is my K2 dyno graph Temp was around 91F with 25% humidity and close to sea level(San Fernando Valley in LA). Dividing the # by .81(19% loss), my car is making 558HP and 629lb at crank. The car is running super rich and Cory is telling me it seemed like the MB recall has put a load limit on the car. The ECU goes back to Kleemann on monday. Hopefully I can squeeze some more HP out of it. All you experts please help me interepret this graph. Thanks

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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I don't know much about dynos, but I noticed that your chart looks similiar to mine in that it plateaus around 5200 RPMS as opposed to 5800 or 5900. I don't know why mine is doing that, but I have been told potentially A/F ratio (my dyno chart didn't have A/F ratio), S/C pulley slippage, or heat. I think it mught be heat.

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by andytsai996
Attached is my K2 dyno graph Temp was around 91F with 25% humidity and close to sea level(San Fernando Valley in LA). Dividing the # by .81(19% loss), my car is making 558HP and 629lb at crank. The car is running super rich and Cory is telling me it seemed like the MB recall has put a load limit on the car. The ECU goes back to Kleemann on monday. Hopefully I can squeeze some more HP out of it. All you experts please help me interepret this graph. Thanks
the load limit on the recalled ecu's worries me. does cory believe they can get around this new load limit? to pay for more hp (tq) and not be able to use it has me concerned.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by andytsai996
The car is running super rich and Cory is telling me it seemed like the MB recall has put a load limit on the car.
What is a load limit?
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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What is a load limit?
what ever it is, my recall ecu'd e55 won't even burn tires with esp off. it also seems to shut cars down if "it" gets exceeded, to the point that some cars can't even be dyno'd.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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what ever it is, my recall ecu'd e55 won't even burn tires with esp off. it also seems to shut cars down if "it" gets exceeded, to the point that some cars can't even be dyno'd.
Ughh!!! And I was so anxious to get the recall done. In hindsight there is no way I would have had it done..
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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My car spins tires thru 1st gear with ESP on. With ESP off, tire spin in 2nd gear when I punch it around 40-45mph. In dyno mode, it's just endless wheelspin. I'm achieving the Kleeman advertised K2 torque, I'm just missing out on the HP. I'm also worried about CA smog since I have read on this board that they don't like cars running RICH during smog check.
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what ever it is, my recall ecu'd e55 won't even burn tires with esp off. it also seems to shut cars down if "it" gets exceeded, to the point that some cars can't even be dyno'd.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by andytsai996
My car spins tires thru 1st gear with ESP on. With ESP off, tire spin in 2nd gear when I punch it around 40-45mph. In dyno mode, it's just endless wheelspin.
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that is VERY good to hear!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by andytsai996
My car spins tires thru 1st gear with ESP on. With ESP off, tire spin in 2nd gear when I punch it around 40-45mph. In dyno mode, it's just endless wheelspin. I'm achieving the Kleeman advertised K2 torque, I'm just missing out on the HP. I'm also worried about CA smog since I have read on this board that they don't like cars running RICH during smog check.
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Have you taken your car to the track?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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That's a strange dyno plot. If I had to guess, I'd say that the bypass valve is opening at 3700 RPM, which bleeds boost and causes the A/F ratio to go rich. Then at 4500 RPM the valve is closed a little, which increases boost and causes the step up in the plots. Then at 5800 RPM it is opened again.

If this is the case, it appears that MB changed the ECU code to reduce boost and limit power, but failed to change the fuel maps to allow for reduced air flow. Or, maybe something else is wrong.

If corrections have been applied to the plots, the torque is about 40 lb-ft low, and HP is down about 25.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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Grump...it sounds to me like this valve really needs a closer look and a possible by pass setup created to see whats going on with it...
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Originally Posted by Grumpy666
That's a strange dyno plot. If I had to guess, I'd say that the bypass valve is opening at 3700 RPM, which bleeds boost and causes the A/F ratio to go rich. Then at 4500 RPM the valve is closed a little, which increases boost and causes the step up in the plots. Then at 5800 RPM it is opened again.

If this is the case, it appears that MB changed the ECU code to reduce boost and limit power, but failed to change the fuel maps to allow for reduced air flow. Or, maybe something else is wrong.

If corrections have been applied to the plots, the torque is about 40 lb-ft low, and HP is down about 25.
I really wish my car would be making 583hp and 675lb CORRECTED. That torque figure would be a 1st on the board for a K2, my car goes on the ship to taiwan early august and I hope everythign will be fixed b4 then. They have a kleemann dealer in taiwan but I don't know if they are willing to honor the warranty if i bought my upgrade in the US.
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