E63 Initial Driving Impression
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E63 Initial Driving Impression
I drove the E63 today and really like some of the subtle refinements to the interior. However, I think the redesigned front end looks a little Hyundai-ish, does anyone else agree? The fit a finish are top rate and the shift paddles are a nice improvement over the shift buttons on the 55. The car drove great and went like hell but it seems to be lacking the devastating torque of the E55. The breaks and transmission seem to be an improvement over the E55. I was expecting to be blown away by the acceleration but it lacks the violence of the 55’s. The valve covers and air intake have a weird gray plastic coating on them, can anyone explain this feature? It makes the engine bay look super cheesy but I suspect that it provides some sort of insulation and/or cooling benefits. I’d be interested to see a head to head comparison between the 55 and 63. Can't wait for the twin turbo version.
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Thank you for providing your test drive impression of the E63.
I'm sure more report of the same impression would trickle in as more people test drive them. There is simply no mtach for E55's torque, period.
At the time for me to pick up my E55 I was contemplating if I should wait for the E63. Now I'm so glad that I didn't. IMHO the E55 is a very special vehicle in M-B's recent product offerings and the 55K engine is an absolutely amazing torque monster. With the new E63 as a replacement, it just make me want to hold on to my E55 more and more. Wondering if others feel the same here?
I still believe that E63 is a "gap vehicle" for M-B to temporarily satisfy their AMG customers until the "real" replacement for the E55 comes out. It will be very interesting to see M-B/AMG setting the uber-sedan performance standard ever higher again with an E63TT or even better an E65TT.
I'm sure more report of the same impression would trickle in as more people test drive them. There is simply no mtach for E55's torque, period.
At the time for me to pick up my E55 I was contemplating if I should wait for the E63. Now I'm so glad that I didn't. IMHO the E55 is a very special vehicle in M-B's recent product offerings and the 55K engine is an absolutely amazing torque monster. With the new E63 as a replacement, it just make me want to hold on to my E55 more and more. Wondering if others feel the same here?
I still believe that E63 is a "gap vehicle" for M-B to temporarily satisfy their AMG customers until the "real" replacement for the E55 comes out. It will be very interesting to see M-B/AMG setting the uber-sedan performance standard ever higher again with an E63TT or even better an E65TT.
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Originally Posted by rake55
The car drove great and went like hell but it seems to be lacking the devastating torque of the E55. The breaks and transmission seem to be an improvement over the E55. I was expecting to be blown away by the acceleration but it lacks the violence of the 55’s.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Is that all you people can go by? Lack of low end torque? Funny how most forget the car has 38 more HP than the E55.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
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Same dismal experience with the 63. No interest in it until they make a twin turbo version of it. Much prefer my 55 over a 63. At the dealership where I buy my cars from, the GM ordered a 63 for himself, and after it arrived, test-drove it and told the sales people to sell it. He is keeping his 55.
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Who are "you people"? No one here is forgetting anything... and if you were paying attention to what those "people" have been discussing, its not only the torque difference... but WHERE the torque is. That's what you come to love in a 55 motor. Same with the horsepower difference. Its not mere numbers. Many would argue the E55 has more than the stated 469 HP, like the other 55 cars, but that's neither here nor there.
What many of us people-types like about the 55 motor is
1) how effortless it is to attain speed in everyday driving without winding the motor out, which is more necessary in the 63.
2) how easily it is to add 100 hp.
Its hard to jump to a car after being spoiled by "low end torque" that is godly at low low rpms.
But if you really drove both cars extensively, you'd know the difference.
Loren
What many of us people-types like about the 55 motor is
1) how effortless it is to attain speed in everyday driving without winding the motor out, which is more necessary in the 63.
2) how easily it is to add 100 hp.
Its hard to jump to a car after being spoiled by "low end torque" that is godly at low low rpms.
But if you really drove both cars extensively, you'd know the difference.
Loren
Originally Posted by Beltfed
Is that all you people can go by? Lack of low end torque? Funny how most forget the car has 38 more HP than the E55.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
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We'll see, everyone knows the E55 was underrated, I'm guessing the E63 has about 10-15 more HP, if that..... let's get a few on a dyno and see.....
Originally Posted by Beltfed
Is that all you people can go by? Lack of low end torque? Funny how most forget the car has 38 more HP than the E55.
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I'm also glad I didn't order an E63 2 months ago and did a search for my 55. E63 is still a super sedan none the less, but around where I live, I don't think there are any open highways that I can really open up the 6.3L.
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Originally Posted by Loren
Who are "you people"? No one here is forgetting anything... and if you were paying attention to what those "people" have been discussing, its not only the torque difference... but WHERE the torque is. That's what you come to love in a 55 motor. Same with the horsepower difference. Its not mere numbers. Many would argue the E55 has more than the stated 469 HP, like the other 55 cars, but that's neither here nor there.
What many of us people-types like about the 55 motor is
1) how effortless it is to attain speed in everyday driving without winding the motor out, which is more necessary in the 63.
2) how easily it is to add 100 hp.
Its hard to jump to a car after being spoiled by "low end torque" that is godly at low low rpms.
But if you really drove both cars extensively, you'd know the difference.
Loren
What many of us people-types like about the 55 motor is
1) how effortless it is to attain speed in everyday driving without winding the motor out, which is more necessary in the 63.
2) how easily it is to add 100 hp.
Its hard to jump to a car after being spoiled by "low end torque" that is godly at low low rpms.
But if you really drove both cars extensively, you'd know the difference.
Loren
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Originally Posted by Fikse
We'll see, everyone knows the E55 was underrated, I'm guessing the E63 has about 10-15 more HP, if that..... let's get a few on a dyno and see.....
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Is that all you people can go by? Lack of low end torque? Funny how most forget the car has 38 more HP than the E55.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
Beltfed: I respect your opinion,
but the E63 is not for me! I am getting another E55 after selling my W211 E55 last month. I have cancelled my E63 order after all of the reviews including yours. When I placed my E63 order a year and a half ago, I was anticipating the TT version but after the consistency of the Torque comments I am not interested in the NA version. Enjoy your E63 when you get it!
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Is that all you people can go by? Lack of low end torque? Funny how most forget the car has 38 more HP than the E55.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
I romped the E63 off an exit with 2 other people in the car......and that car hauls *** period.
Its a viciously fast car, but more civilized than the E55.
That's my non biased opinion of not currently owning either and have driven both the 55 and 63.
The steering and brakes are noticably improved along with the 7spd tranny (very nice), and the new seats are great.......more important to me than a slight lose of low end torque. Especially since the car is no slower overall than a stock E55.
AMG has no history of building slower new or updated models. They are all about power and being faster than the competition.
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I had the choice to buy an M5, E63 or E55... I chose the E55.
Why?
1. Torque. My street cars live in a lower RPM range, so the low end grunt suits me better.
2. Street cars are not race cars, no matter how boyracer they are marketed as.
3. 4K lb four door sedans make aweful track cars- no difference between the M5, E55 or E63. I own other cars to take to the track. If I want to "race" at 100+mph, I have my karts which I do race at 100+mph which is far more of a thrill and far more intense at 16.5K+ RPM.
4. Seven speeds? If you broaden the torque band you wouldn't need seven gears... oh wait, that's the thinking behind the E55...
5. I'm sure the E63 is a good car, just like the E55... we're splitting hairs here, because both cars have significantly higher abilities than the next lower model in the W211 range. The new engine philosophy change will also signal a change in driving dynamic- it's different, not necessarily better or worse overall, but can suit different people better or worse depending on what they want.
Cheers,
Why?
1. Torque. My street cars live in a lower RPM range, so the low end grunt suits me better.
2. Street cars are not race cars, no matter how boyracer they are marketed as.
3. 4K lb four door sedans make aweful track cars- no difference between the M5, E55 or E63. I own other cars to take to the track. If I want to "race" at 100+mph, I have my karts which I do race at 100+mph which is far more of a thrill and far more intense at 16.5K+ RPM.
4. Seven speeds? If you broaden the torque band you wouldn't need seven gears... oh wait, that's the thinking behind the E55...
5. I'm sure the E63 is a good car, just like the E55... we're splitting hairs here, because both cars have significantly higher abilities than the next lower model in the W211 range. The new engine philosophy change will also signal a change in driving dynamic- it's different, not necessarily better or worse overall, but can suit different people better or worse depending on what they want.
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by mche55!
i agree with you i find alot off e55 owners are bashing the car even b4 nobody has really driven it
