W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

DO I need LSD...Which one ???

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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I've begun determining if there is any "cross-over" in this area from our AMG's to the Chrysler LX platform. GS Motorsports is also offering more aggressive rear-axle ratios for the LX (3.43 and 3.71, IMC). I also saw claims that there isn't any speedo recalibration required because the measurement isn't going from the transmission, but the RPMS sensor.

So ... if the carriers are the same and the axle splines are the same, the first mod on my CL55 will be bumping up the rev limiter and going to around ~3 : 1 from 2.65:1.

It will take me a long time to figure this out ... unless someone on the board already has.

The stunning thing to me was that the bolt-in pre-installed unit price wasn't as pricy as I thought it would be:

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/Merchan...ry_Code=HMI-DT

Regarding speedo calibration for those of you with LSD:
- When you do burn-offs, does the speedo register rear wheel speed or the fact that the car is sitting still?

My CL55 registers sitting still, but I'm only spinning one tire. However, I'm getting confident that rear axle gear swaps should be simple, and not as complicated a problem as the price some tuners are charging.

If this works you guys will be tearing holes in the space-time fabric of the world. We're talking low 10's.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ MBLN
Do a google search on "quaife differential" and you will get answers to all your questions.

Good Luck!

P.S. Kak dela?
Vse OK...Why you ask if there is any questions, when you dont want to answer them I wouldnt ask then...
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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good review benzgal of the quaife, i want one for sure!
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BENZGal
I have the Quaife and I love it. The handling of the car is so much better! It has dramatically improved my launch and my cornering. Prior to the Quaife the ESP would kick in at the wrong time and you get that small jerk. Now it's pedal to the medal with traction. Cornering is so much fun because she sticks like glue!
I want one as well...how difficult was installations and what pther parts did you need to get and where is best place to get one ???
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
I want one as well...how difficult was installations and what pther parts did you need to get and where is best place to get one ???
I got mine at evosport..
http://www.evosport.com/ or call and ask for Simon.

They did the install so I can't answer your install questions. I can tell you though that the install didn't take them that long. I noticed that you are outside the country so email simon@evosport.com, and he can give you some info. It was well worth the money and the darn thing sticks like glue. I go canyon running with a group of M5 guys all the time and before I got my mods they would take me on the corners, the new M5's handle so much better than our cars. After my mods and Quaife I gave them all a spanking on the canyons last Sunday. She might still be a pig, but she corners like hell now with extreem power. All the M5's guys bowed to the beast last weekend. hehe

On a side note...you guys should also pick up evosport cooling upgrade. Yesterday I was visiting one of my commerical properties in Arizona, and it was 118 degrees. I was pushing her hard to get thru the 8 hours drive in those temps and she didn't get hot. I even had the air on full blast. The cooling package is also well worth it.

Good luck with the mods.
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Did they need to change any electronic setting for tranny / ecu / esp as part of the install or was this not needed ?
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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BenzGal,

Did they need to change any electronic setting for tranny / ecu / esp as part of the install or was this not needed ?
Steve,
I'm not sure what it took to install the Quaife. I can tell you this...the other night when I took off the ESP to have some fun and spin out the back, the Quaife kicked in and I didn't drift. It works so well that I miss the manual control of the ESP. It's still worth having!
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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despite all your mods, it wont kick the back out!?!? i mean surely 1st gear will give you doughnuts on command, but no power oversteer in second?!
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sly55
despite all your mods, it wont kick the back out!?!? i mean surely 1st gear will give you doughnuts on command, but no power oversteer in second?!
Sure I can do a doughnut and it will kick out, but not as much as it use to. The quaife really makes it stick which is good. Without the Quaife and all this power I would be all over the road. I was posting from a stand point of someone who played around with drifting before the mods. You can't have it all.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Again...after yeterday races I think I nned an LSD for faster acceleration OFF the LINE...Does it helps in the case ???

Why Open diff like Qualife better the Kleemann diff with locking ratio 60% or Mkb 45% or AMG 35% or others....or its NOT better ???
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Quaife or any other aftermarket LSD does not require any special programming on the car's computers. Quaife is a 0-100% locking diff. THe kleemann LSD is a Phantom Grip LSD. (see pictures that I posted earlier). It's kinda like putting a spreader across the spider gears causing them both to turn together. The spreader is actually a box with springs inside it. This box will give way and hence the 60% lockin.
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I believe Quaife also warranties they LSD for life even when raced.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
ESP is like a ghetto LSD, who wants wheels braking under full power? Do you think that's going to help your 60ft. times or spare your rotors? I'd rather have an LSD.
True Cylinder Head... See photos. Snapped the ghetto LSD in action after doing a few doughnuts.

One with flash and one without.

EVO rear roters.

Oh yeah... ESP off.

...But passively, the diff is obviously always on.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Good job Finny!
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Jesus Finny, hope those pads are still holding up.
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