chiromikey

lol...as if there wasn't enough **** disturbing going on around here.

juicee63

Yep time for another M5board invasion.

deaguero

E63 1/4 mile times, I mean real times not factored! = 12.50's

E55 1/4 mile times, Real times (stock) range from 12.4 to 11.9 check out previous time slips

Case Closed! Enjoy your rides both E55's and E63's

juicee63

Not really...

You race Bluemax with your E55 and beat him by the margin you posted then it will be "real world"

WayneE

Didn't one E63 run a 12.4x once?

J 2OOI

Thanks for the writeup! I would recommend a video (from in the car) next time though. In most cases on this forum seeing is believing. Although, the diehards will come up with an excuse even if there is a video

I hate to say it but this reminds me of the E55 vs M6 debate. The only videos out there show M6's beating E55's, yet on this forum (and dragtimes) everyone claims that the E55 is faster. Maybe the E is faster over here in the USA but I would LOVE to see a video that shows it!

I would like to direct you to two videos that I made between my E55 and my friend's (Antero's) E63. These videos capture roughly 40-110 or so runs. In the second video the E63 paddles down to 3rd gear to avoid the time for kickdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YaHyBnf7P8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLLsK...elated&search=

Edit: I am not refuting your claims but just showing that from 40-110 or so we had different results.

JAYCL600

yes once....and there a "couple" of these 63's that already have ECU tuning and arent being forthright

stevebez

Will be up against an E63 in the UK Vmax event on Saturday ... will see how an ASP E55 does against it over 2 miles from a dig...

rflow306

Very sad.

Yacht Master

Two miles
That will be interesting, I trust your limiter is disabled.

chiromikey

I hate to say this...you sound like one of gusav's chronies. there IS video evidence supporting e's over m's, you just have to be honest enough to acknowledge it.

J 2OOI

NO, I am not.

To me whether an e55 or e63 or m6 is faster by 0.2 sec in the quarter mile is not really important to me, they are all GREAT cars. I just like seeing the videos so I decided to make some of my own. I use this forum to gain knowledge and possibly make some friends along the way.

I happen to own an E55 and I would love to see a video of a stock E55 beating a stock M6. If there is one, I apologize. Please direct me to that video or videos. I posted videos of my E55 beating an E63 and others still argue that the 63 is faster. Maybe in some cases it is, all I was saying was lets see some video evidence. The video evidence of a stock E55 beating a stock M6 here in the USA to my knowledge does not exist. That is how the situations are similar. Who knows, maybe I have missed something in my searches, so please post the links.


Thanks!

chiromikey

i know you're not but there have been a couple of videos posted that were hard to miss if you spend any time in the w211 amg forum. the m board refuses to acknowledge these vids even though they've been posted on their forum partly because they get moved to off topic forums to limit exposure. jidex posted vids of sleeperx spanking a modified m5 from a roll and i saw another vid of a stock e pulling a stock m somewhere on the net.

i wish i could have made videos of my car abusing my buddies m5...but he sold it very shortly after our first play day.

J 2OOI

Sorry this is

we have included the two most debated points on this forum in one thread!!


Yes I have seen Jidex's videos and they were awesome. However, I was talking stock vs stock. That is what I haven't seen.

Bluemax

I think you forgot to tell us this E63 only has 700 miles on the clock. Lets see after it has 3k or more. The results will be refreshing..

Bluemax

Come out to Speed World or Firebird. I think i can change your mind about the E63. Let me know



Robert

Bluemax

Not me.

juicee63

Bottom line is I have 10 videos showing the 63 beating the 55, it happens, difference is negligible stock for stock...Thats why talking makes no sense. You guys go ahead and race, and yes racing a brand new 63 is like racing a 55 with a bad pump..

L8Apex

Ok, let's see the vids!

Jrocket

+1.

Wheres the 10 vids?

So the E63's hold back power until a certain mileage is reached?

Yacht Master

mbenzman

Hold on, whilst I be running to the sto for some .

I needs me thee 6.3 edumacation two. The AMG engine guys didn't sell me on the piece, maybe you 6.3 owners will. Till then, I'll hold on to my 55's.

juicee63

yes , car will be similar to the M5 in the fact that the mid mileage cars are faster than when new. I am 100% convinced the 63 out of the box is a full second slower than a 63 with 15k on the clock. Car refuses to go WOT, shift points are silly. You have seen all my drag racing vids. Not worth reposting them is it?

SAMSSONZ

JUICE IS RIGHT, The 63 engine is completly different once it reaches 2500-3000 miles. Me and a few other members here noticed it. Anyway heres a few vids of me racing a cls55 on the ****iest track on earth. Were both relatively new to the track. The 63 is in blk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4VHCCXxNv8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WmGOCXjHV18

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eIPocAgY4Ec

stevebez

A 8500 mile E63 was beaten by SL55 from 10mph roll to +- 110/120 by 2-3 lengths and looked to be falling back further. Was close but the SL55 was bone stock and the 63 well run in ... This was on a run when both cars took off evenly.

The best the 63 could do was hold against the SL55 if the E63 got a jump at the start ...

There is one very important thing we miss here ... for example a 0.3 of second jump at 10mph roll is maybe 1-1.5 metres jump but translates into ~3 car lengths at 110mph ... so while it might look like a massive gap the high speed makes the delta look massive when in fact they are very tiny time wise.