Confirmed: E63 is faster than E55
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Originally Posted by Bluemax
I think you forgot to tell us this E63 only has 700 miles on the clock. Lets see after it has 3k or more. The results will be refreshing..
Originally Posted by SAMSSONZ
JUICE IS RIGHT, The 63 engine is completly different once it reaches 2500-3000 miles. Me and a few other members here noticed it. Anyway heres a few vids of me racing a cls55 on the ****iest track on earth. Were both relatively new to the track. The 63 is in blk.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4VHCCXxNv8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WmGOCXjHV18
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eIPocAgY4Ec
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4VHCCXxNv8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WmGOCXjHV18
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eIPocAgY4Ec
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A 8500 mile E63 was beaten by SL55 from 10mph roll to +- 110/120 by 2-3 lengths and looked to be falling back further. Was close but the SL55 was bone stock and the 63 well run in ... This was on a run when both cars took off evenly.
The best the 63 could do was hold against the SL55 if the E63 got a jump at the start ...
There is one very important thing we miss here ... for example a 0.3 of second jump at 10mph roll is maybe 1-1.5 metres jump but translates into ~3 car lengths at 110mph ... so while it might look like a massive gap the high speed makes the delta look massive when in fact they are very tiny time wise.
The best the 63 could do was hold against the SL55 if the E63 got a jump at the start ...
There is one very important thing we miss here ... for example a 0.3 of second jump at 10mph roll is maybe 1-1.5 metres jump but translates into ~3 car lengths at 110mph ... so while it might look like a massive gap the high speed makes the delta look massive when in fact they are very tiny time wise.
This result would be expected. the SL should pull .2-.3 from 10-70 and hold the lead till around 115, the 63 hits max power in 4th gear between 130-145. A roll from 70-150 would put the 63 in front , Im sure you will see this at your upcoming event. Cars are close so the race parameters are critical in noting.
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I didn't leave anything out intentionally. Antero and I will set up more runs when he has more miles on his ride.
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
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I didn't leave anything out intentionally. Antero and I will set up more runs when he has more miles on his ride.
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
As for the camera man, I dnt know wat he was smokin' but In all honesty, That wht 55 got beat so many times that day(about 10 times) by me, That I dont think anyone on the track including my camera man cared anymore.
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I didn't leave anything out intentionally. Antero and I will set up more runs when he has more miles on his ride.
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
Thanks for sharing!! I think I have seen those before just from searching on youtube, not from an mbworld link. I didn't know which car was which. I am assuming, now, that the white car is the 55. Just curious why didn't he do a burnout as well? Also, why didn't the camera man capture both results instead of just one of the cars #s? Thanks for the vids though!!
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...t=Video076.flv
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Don't forget they all take out the charcoal filters but still claim to be 'stock' If it really gives 20hp as they say, then an E55 with a 80mm TB or just a pulley should be 'stock' to yes?
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This result would be expected. the SL should pull .2-.3 from 10-70 and hold the lead till around 115, the 63 hits max power in 4th gear between 130-145. A roll from 70-150 would put the 63 in front , Im sure you will see this at your upcoming event. Cars are close so the race parameters are critical in noting.
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NHRA does not consider filter change or removal a modification to the engine. LOL, nice try
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But for the purposes of comparing STOCK cars they are mods. Anything done to the car, other than maintenance, is a mod - filter(s), TB, airbox mods, ECU tuning, etc.
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Euro models dont come with a charcoal filter/ Its only done for u.s. emissions purposes. Its not really that big of a deal either
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There are only 7 posted but we have more.......Fact is My modded 63(filters removed, floor mats, ash trays, no spare tire) HAS NEVER LOST TO A 55 . I have raced several in the E and CLS form as well as an SL . Guess the ash tray removal makes the difference, oh yeah, NO CHANGE. The difference is minute, negligible, tiny,moot,not worth debating. Cars are = race is determined by Gustav err I mean driver. IRWINDALE tonight, come out and see , I believe and so will you
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What are you waiting for, go race juicee and show him what's up. If I owned a stock 55 in the west coast it would be on like Donkey Kong. The only logical reason for his victories must be that Juicee has raced the slowest 55's in the country.. Dam west coast 55's making all of us look bad.
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LOL- just trying to add a little more fuel to the fire.
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Bring It
Even though us 63 guys are a minority on this forum. We did provide more than a few vids of 63s beating the all mighty 55s yet you guys manage to bring out excuses like his car is slow or he didn't take his ash tray out or he wasn't wearing his lucky pink underwear or Whatever. Aside from all the gibberish I will race any stock 55 out here in socal (PREFERRABLY a CLS since the E-class is lighter)somewhere on the 101 by sfv. 30-100 and 60-140. This is in no way meant to disrespect any members here but to simply prove the superiority of the two for better or worse.
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Even though us 63 guys are a minority on this forum. We did provide more than a few vids of 63s beating the all mighty 55s I will race any stock 55 out here in socal (PREFERRABLY a CLS since the E-class is lighter)somewhere on the 101 by sfv. 30-100 and 60-140. This is in no way meant to disrespect any members here but to simply prove the superiority of the two for better or worse.
Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive. It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate. FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
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What are you waiting for, go race juicee and show him what's up. If I owned a stock 55 in the west coast it would be on like Donkey Kong. The only logical reason for his victories must be that Juicee has raced the slowest 55's in the country.. Dam west coast 55's making all of us look bad.
55 for life.
LOL- just trying to add a little more fuel to the fire.
55 for life.
LOL- just trying to add a little more fuel to the fire.
Juicee,my mentor has spoken! You must be put down now!
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I would be curious to hear the results from a roll...say 20mph-100mph or so. This is definately surprising given the fact that the 63 gives up ~40ft/lbs of torque.....Good for MB though.....I love to see progress and improvements in the engineering. :-)