Confirmed: E63 is faster than E55
07-05-2007, 09:02 PM
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Are you serious? You guys have posted a few vids of the same lame a$$ CLS55 getting beat over and over. That white car would have been beat by my wifes Navigator. The other car had the steering wheel on the wrong side so who knows with that guy. It was probably a suicide bomber trying to go unnoticed.
All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's.
Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive (Like Rock). It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate.
FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's. Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive (Like Rock). It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate.
FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
07-05-2007, 09:12 PM
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07-05-2007, 10:07 PM
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Okay, so you're five car lengths ahead of me but I'm travelling at 1.3 mile/hour faster............................and you're jealous of what????
Albert, you're 10 car lengths ahead, so you do not count.
Albert, you're 10 car lengths ahead, so you do not count.
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07-05-2007, 10:10 PM
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Are you serious? You guys have posted a few vids of the same lame a$$ CLS55 getting beat over and over. That white car would have been beat by my wifes Navigator. The other car had the steering wheel on the wrong side so who knows with that guy. It was probably a suicide bomber trying to go unnoticed. All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's.
Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive. It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate. FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's. Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive. It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate.
FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.We simply do not have any 63's participating @MIR or ATCO or any other quality East Coast venue. The 55's in the west have also failed to run any sub 12.4 so therefore by your logic the West Coast 55's are also slower?
The car gets faster just like the M6, power plant much more susceptible to bad air than the 55. The 63 can be as* slow but it can also jump you as if you were walking around post Katrina. That 55 was on the same playing feild and it could not come close to the 63's.
what happened here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWD7x9qOPA
Last edited by juicee63; 07-05-2007 at 10:17 PM.
07-05-2007, 10:17 PM
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We'll even have them line up side by side 
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07-05-2007, 10:22 PM
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We simply do not have any 63's participating @MIR or ATCO or any other quality East Coast venue. The 55's in the west have also failed to run any sub 12.4 so therefore by your logic the West Coast 55's are also slower?
The car gets faster just like the M6, power plant much more susceptible to bad air than the 55. The 63 can be as* slow but it can also jump you as if you were walking around post Katrina. That 55 was on the same playing feild and it could not come close to the 63's.
what happened here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWD7x9qOPA
The car gets faster just like the M6, power plant much more susceptible to bad air than the 55. The 63 can be as* slow but it can also jump you as if you were walking around post Katrina. That 55 was on the same playing feild and it could not come close to the 63's.
what happened here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWD7x9qOPA
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
07-05-2007, 10:23 PM
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Juicee,
If I was the CEO of Enron before its collapse I could think of no one better than you to handle damage control and recruit new investors to keep the ship afloat. A true company man!!
You Da Man!!!
07-05-2007, 10:24 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzx5za51lqc
07-05-2007, 10:26 PM
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Great I am still hoping to attend. Hopefully I am not creating a lynch mob for the step children. I guess I will just have to take down my second rocket. Here was the first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzx5za51lqc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzx5za51lqc
07-05-2007, 10:31 PM
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Mr. Venom is in training and likely will be ready soon. I think he has been 2x in his new 63. Venom still has his filters in(nother .1) Xabo has been 1x and also ran a 12.5@115...Neither in Magic Mode, it will help em by .3 and drag rads will help .2....
All 63 runners this video will show you the #1 secret of your power plant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3D1yvH9T98
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07-05-2007, 11:53 PM
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07-06-2007, 12:11 AM
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The 55 is as you are aware hosting a super charger. While it is effected as all cars are it is less effected by bad air than the N/A motor. All the 63 has is air and fuel if either is bad you may as well be racing Maxima's. The 55 while bad air and altitude can cripple her can make it up better via forced induction. This is whay the NHRA correction factors for S/C engines are .5 of the standard correction for N/A motor.
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07-06-2007, 12:37 AM
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The 55 is as you are aware hosting a super charger. While it is effected as all cars are it is less effected by bad air than the N/A motor. All the 63 has is air and fuel if either is bad you may as well be racing Maxima's. The 55 while bad air and altitude can cripple her can make it up better via forced induction.
07-06-2007, 12:43 AM
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I do the modded 55 I raced 3x had several issues...I know there are a ton of things to factor. You know your car and I respect that. The 55 motor has more of a HEAT problem but the bad air kills the 63 equally and since there is no way to get more good air, oxygen into the engine it simply cannot produce power.
You know 1 million times more than I do about engines so, I retract my post ,and thanks for somewhat agreeing a tincy bit
07-06-2007, 01:35 AM
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I do the modded 55 I raced 3x had several issues...I know there are a ton of things to factor. You know your car and I respect that. The 55 motor has more of a HEAT problem but the bad air kills the 63 equally and since there is no way to get more good air, oxygen into the engine it simply cannot produce power.
You know 1 million times more than I do about engines so, I retract my post ,and thanks for somewhat agreeing a tincy bit
You know 1 million times more than I do about engines so, I retract my post ,and thanks for somewhat agreeing a tincy bit
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07-06-2007, 01:52 AM
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I agree with you 100% . Fricken ECU , the other day I put on cologne , the car shutters and the little Nav babe says, "seeing someone special?" Next thing I know my shift points are all screwy and the car is going full throttle w/o shifting. It was an angry ECU. I stopped reset her and reassured her , "I love you baby" All is seemingly normal
07-06-2007, 03:54 AM
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OO7 CLS63///G55TANK ///S80-T6///R1///R6
BLAH BLAH BLAH and more BLAH
Are you serious? You guys have posted a few vids of the same lame a$$ CLS55 getting beat over and over. That white car would have been beat by my wifes Navigator. The other car had the steering wheel on the wrong side so who knows with that guy. It was probably a suicide bomber trying to go unnoticed. All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's.
Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive. It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate. FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
All joking aside, have you guys not been looking at the track times for these cars? You don't have 1 car that has posted a time that will beat the average E55. I've seen plenty of E55's run like *****. I have a video of guys running my car turning 11.9's in it on the same day I ran 11.3's. Some people love fast cars but they just can't drive. It's simple, if the 63's were faster, we would have seen at least one turn a good number by now wouldn't we? I love the cars but they just aren't as fast. Don't get me the BS about the mileage either. Most of you guys have more than 3k miles on your cars. You can settle this real easy, send some of your best E63's to MIR on 10/8 for the big track day. I'm sure they'll have plenty of stock E55's for you guys to prove your point on.
Man, we are starting to beat this to death almost as bad as the M5 vs E55 debate.
FWIW I still love the 63's even though they are a bit slower.
. I guess that says it all
07-06-2007, 07:17 AM
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No bickering bro, just jokes. I think it's funny how we can all debate this to death. The bottom line is, you'll have 55's beat 63's in side by side racing and you'll have 63's beat 55's. The car's are pretty close so a driver can make the difference.
Juicee, you'll like this one. I think your 63 is close and the videos you've posted show that. I just don't think it's faster or as fast as the 55's. I agree that it's not as slow as most think but you do have a bit of an uphill battle. You don't have one car that is faster than the average 55. That's the problem most of us have with the 63's. We'll have a couple at our MIR event so we should be able to have a 63 down in the 12.2 range or even in the teens?
Juicee, you'll like this one. I think your 63 is close and the videos you've posted show that. I just don't think it's faster or as fast as the 55's. I agree that it's not as slow as most think but you do have a bit of an uphill battle. You don't have one car that is faster than the average 55. That's the problem most of us have with the 63's. We'll have a couple at our MIR event so we should be able to have a 63 down in the 12.2 range or even in the teens?
07-06-2007, 11:54 AM
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No bickering bro, just jokes. I think it's funny how we can all debate this to death. The bottom line is, you'll have 55's beat 63's in side by side racing and you'll have 63's beat 55's. The car's are pretty close so a driver can make the difference.
Juicee, you'll like this one. I think your 63 is close and the videos you've posted show that. I just don't think it's faster or as fast as the 55's. I agree that it's not as slow as most think but you do have a bit of an uphill battle. You don't have one car that is faster than the average 55. That's the problem most of us have with the 63's. We'll have a couple at our MIR event so we should be able to have a 63 down in the 12.2 range or even in the teens?
Juicee, you'll like this one. I think your 63 is close and the videos you've posted show that. I just don't think it's faster or as fast as the 55's. I agree that it's not as slow as most think but you do have a bit of an uphill battle. You don't have one car that is faster than the average 55. That's the problem most of us have with the 63's. We'll have a couple at our MIR event so we should be able to have a 63 down in the 12.2 range or even in the teens?
From everything I have calculated, the 55 best sub 12 times likely will not crumble anytime soon. It will take perfect air and a highly experienced 63 driver. The car should be capable of 12.1-12.2@118.**. I would look for it to out trap the 55 but IMO the 1/8th and 1/4 mile runs , a 55 with traction is .1 to .2 faster but trap speed should go to the 63. The best comparison I have is with SISWATI's CLS 55
Edit..The 1/4 mile race really is the 55's race. As with the M5 the 63 is at max power in 4th gear after the end of the 1/4 mile run . Cars still will be glued down the track. Although Siswati destroyed the 63 he raced, I destroyed the 55 I raced. His timeslips and car look like mirror images to mine
Our cars identical cept the engine
His best run shows lower ET 12.509 vs 12.64
But the cars are so close all the way down the slip.
For those who cannot read
The one to look at is Siswati #3 12.65 cars performed IDENTICAL. Slight edge to Siswati's 55 but really as close as a race could get between two cars with different engines. trap speed 63=111.815 trap speed CLS55=111.82
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07-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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The East Coast will produce some quality 63 runs maybe not as fast AS THE BEST 55 run but at least as fast as most 55's.
Why is it so hard to believe the 63 is EQUALLY AS FAST?
07-07-2007, 12:18 PM
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Juicee my son,
You are addicted to drag racing! You need to get help ASAP! Driving all the way to SAC for an afternoon run is getting crazy! Let it go my friend.
You are addicted to drag racing! You need to get help ASAP! Driving all the way to SAC for an afternoon run is getting crazy! Let it go my friend.
07-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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Hey man thanks for inviting me to the BBQ.
COME WITH ME..
Leaving in T minus 15 minutes.. The AIR in Sac @ 9:50p.m is gonna be under 1000 DA likely around 600 ft WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO
07-07-2007, 12:33 PM
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Have fun.
07-07-2007, 01:07 PM
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Show me a western USA timeslip @12.4 ? Good luck there are none. Western US E55's run 12.4-12.7 just like west coast 63's absolutely no difference at all. Cars are = end of story.
The East Coast will produce some quality 63 runs maybe not as fast AS THE BEST 55 run but at least as fast as most 55's.
Why is it so hard to believe the 63 is EQUALLY AS FAST?
The East Coast will produce some quality 63 runs maybe not as fast AS THE BEST 55 run but at least as fast as most 55's.
Why is it so hard to believe the 63 is EQUALLY AS FAST?
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