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Old 04-11-2010, 12:31 AM
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Thanks for the kind words Juicee63... Means a lot coming from you. We were just there to run the car's, did not want to get into much of a competition on cutting lights with him, so I did not hake a big deal about it. You can see on the 1st run not paying attention and cut a horrible light myself.

I am not sure I can launch any harder or faster in the E63.. Was never able to get below 2.0 on the 60 foot time. Plus, tires were not spinning. Traction Control light did not blink once on any launch. If you have any idea's, I am all ears. Best I could think was to let the car cool down for a few hours. Have not yet tried Dyno Mode either.

I drove the E55 and with the 104 octane, on one run for him, and it spun off the line like a ****.. I guess the blower could benefit from the better fuel...May be able to take more advance. His 55 has Pilot's, mine has some Potenza's. Just not a big fan, prefer the Conti's.
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Thanks for the kind words Juicee63... Means a lot coming from you. We were just there to run the car's, did not want to get into much of a competition on cutting lights with him, so I did not hake a big deal about it. You can see on the 1st run not paying attention and cut a horrible light myself.

I am not sure I can launch any harder or faster in the E63.. Was never able to get below 2.0 on the 60 foot time. Plus, tires were not spinning. Traction Control light did not blink once on any launch. If you have any idea's, I am all ears. Best I could think was to let the car cool down for a few hours. Have not yet tried Dyno Mode either.

I drove the E55 and with the 104 octane, on one run for him, and it spun off the line like a ****.. I guess the blower could benefit from the better fuel...May be able to take more advance. His 55 has Pilot's, mine has some Potenza's. Just not a big fan, prefer the Conti's.

In general the 55 does 60 better. There is more tq and hp available faster.

The key to the 63 is to wake 1st gear up. Keep downshifting and drive aggressively out of first. Do the 3-4 pre blasts 0-80 or so just befor arrival. The most important thing is to light the car up from a dead stop. Practice as if the brake was made of glass and barely hold it . Dyno mode to me is critical in the 63 as the ECU will limit power as soon as wheel spin begins.

The car will get faster and faster. 100 octane is likely good enough, try keeping the overall octane rating between 93-100 unless you are tuned for 100 or more. If you run the car when the oil temp is under 80C it wil be slightly faster likely hitting 113-114 range. Try and go to the staging lanes with an oil temp lower than 63C by the time you take off it will be 80C.

Great strides man, good luck
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MB dealer in UAe made an Event to try the new W212 E63 for AMG owners in Yas Marina Circuit.

they brought all 2010 AMG's.

one of my friend was in a C63 and another guys was in the new W212 E63. they did a drag race. and Stock C63 was faster @ the end but E63 was gripping better from still.

we thought it was driver errors. so the seconed race, driveres switched cars, and again the C63 starts catching the E63 from 2nd gear and past by it in mid 3rd gear.

all the cars were stock from the dealer.

so, in conclusin, if the stock C63 is faster than a stock E55 then the new W212 E63 will be faster.

BUT , if the E55 stock is faster than a stock C63, then there is no chance for the new E63.

BUT i addmit that the W212 E63 is better and easier to luanch than the E55.

however, if you have a Quaife LSD. tahts a different story.
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Ive beat a E63 so, I dunno man, maybe some cars just do not have the ponies they are supposed to..or how about the new model should beat the crap out of the old model, IE W210 E55 and W211 E55..There is no debate, just that fact there is a debate makes you wonder wtf BNZ was thinking, Now the Twin Turbo E63 should just set the record straight..OR...will it? E55 is just a solid car..
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Ok, Here's the Friday night action. I took a few minutes to post on YouTube.

Run #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMvWXPyPUHA

Run #3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vsu3QnFb8

Sound is awesome, but video quality is so/so. You can see the launch looks pretty solid... Let me know if anyone has any thoughts/comments!
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Originally Posted by Tom_Boy
Ok, Here's the Friday night action. I took a few minutes to post on YouTube.

Run #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMvWXPyPUHA

Run #3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vsu3QnFb8

Sound is awesome, but video quality is so/so. You can see the launch looks pretty solid... Let me know if anyone has any thoughts/comments!

Sounds good.

That bit of chirp from the tires cost you (or the other driver) some ET. Your car has a few more ticks left in her stock, shoot for 12.50's@113-114 by training the gears to hold longer.

The shift points on the 63 from what I am hearing especially from 2nd to 3rd seem to happen too quickly? Let me know where your car is shifting (rpm). Sounds like D/S mode and TC on? This is likely slowing your ride over the 1320,

Thanks for the vids
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Tom, I couldn't get below a 2.0 60' at Motorplex either, but out at Dallas Raceway I was cutting 1.9's all night (by that I mean 3 runs). You'd swear Ennis would have better prep, but maybe not...
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Sounds good.

That bit of chirp from the tires cost you (or the other driver) some ET. Your car has a few more ticks left in her stock, shoot for 12.50's@113-114 by training the gears to hold longer.

The shift points on the 63 from what I am hearing especially from 2nd to 3rd seem to happen too quickly? Let me know where your car is shifting (rpm). Sounds like D/S mode and TC on? This is likely slowing your ride over the 1320,

Thanks for the vids
Did u beat the 55?????????
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Yes, I did on both runs (by RT), but was really only quicker on 1 tun by like .13 of a second...
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Tom, I couldn't get below a 2.0 60' at Motorplex either, but out at Dallas Raceway I was cutting 1.9's all night (by that I mean 3 runs). You'd swear Ennis would have better prep, but maybe not...
Is Dallas raceway the one north of Denton on 35? I'd like to think that TMP prep would be betterbut maybe the concrete is still too cold? I've also heard that TMS set up a strip, but have not seen it yet. Would be a hell of a lot closer for me too! I'll try to check it out when I go out for the Pate Swap meet at the end of the month...
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Yes, I did on both runs (by RT), but was really only quicker on 1 tun by like .13 of a second...

Hence the thread name

these cars are about even and driver experience is what prevails .
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Is Dallas raceway the one north of Denton on 35? I'd like to think that TMP prep would be betterbut maybe the concrete is still too cold? I've also heard that TMS set up a strip, but have not seen it yet. Would be a hell of a lot closer for me too! I'll try to check it out when I go out for the Pate Swap meet at the end of the month...
Dallas Raceway is down in Crandall, TX...down 175 southeast of Dallas. Even farther for you. Let me know when you guys have MB meets. I'd cruise over to FW.
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Juciee63, was able to stomp on it today... In DS, with it manually clicked down to first, the 1-2 shift happened at 6,200 RPMs and the 2-3 **** was right at 6,900 RPM's. Seems like the 1-2 is too early, and the 2-3 may be about right.. likely mo more torque past 6,800 anyway... I am sure it flatlines after 6,500 RPMs if not sooner.

Wow,,, Crandall's a haul huh? Kennedale has been 1/8 mile for years. I know there is a strip North of Denton.. I'll look them up and see if TMS has anything. Will let you know if we get anything scared up this way!
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Originally Posted by Tom_Boy
Juciee63, was able to stomp on it today... In DS, with it manually clicked down to first, the 1-2 shift happened at 6,200 RPMs and the 2-3 **** was right at 6,900 RPM's. Seems like the 1-2 is too early, and the 2-3 may be about right.. likely mo more torque past 6,800 anyway... I am sure it flatlines after 6,500 RPMs if not sooner.

Wow,,, Crandall's a haul huh? Kennedale has been 1/8 mile for years. I know there is a strip North of Denton.. I'll look them up and see if TMS has anything. Will let you know if we get anything scared up this way!

Yep 1st gear is failing you..

Also 2nd and 3rd should be 6750-7200 , i like the 7k shift on the track.

Gotta train your first gear to hold longer which requires M or dyno

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