Electronic Speed Limiter
10-08-2006, 03:08 PM
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Electronic Speed Limiter
I have been told all German vehicles have electronic speed limiters that prevent the vehicle from exceeding 155 mph. I have also been told that the AMG vehicles do not have this limitation.
Which statement is true?
Which statement is true?
10-08-2006, 03:14 PM
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AMG models definitely have the 155mph limiter (except with 030 package on some models). It can be removed with aftermarket ECU software.
A lot of other European cars have the limiter too.
A lot of other European cars have the limiter too.
10-08-2006, 04:55 PM
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"Gentlemens' Agreement" made between BMW, MBZ, and Porsche years ago; if I remember correctly to eliminate an/a potentially expensive 'arms race' for top speed performance among the three manufacturers.
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
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10-08-2006, 07:58 PM
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"Gentlemens' Agreement" made between BMW, MBZ, and Porsche years ago; if I remember correctly to eliminate an/a potentially expensive 'arms race' for top speed performance among the three manufacturers.
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
Let's make another gentlemans agreement. No more
10-09-2006, 04:14 PM
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"Gentlemens' Agreement" made between BMW, MBZ, and Porsche years ago; if I remember correctly to eliminate an/a potentially expensive 'arms race' for top speed performance among the three manufacturers.
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
Porsche has since left the agreement in the past, as ancient history. It is my understanding that BMW and MBZ both still honor the limitation in concept - though for different reasons than the original one: now for practical safety (and liability?) purposes.
I would suppose most experienced tuners can get around or defeat the limitation currently.
The question still to be asked is are you sure that you want to eliminate the restriction; do you really want to travel at that great a rate of speed in your vehicle (as if 150mph+ isn't fast enough)?
That "Gentlemens' Agreement" was between BMW, MB, Audi and the German government not Porsche!
My AMG's are both unlimited, but they must been left Germany and registrated first before the could going back to AMG for undoing the speed limiter!
Audi is the first with the New R8 as an German regular production car which is not limited........
