Any ECU mods on '05 or '06 cars with proof of gains?
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Any ECU mods on '05 or '06 cars with proof of gains?
Has anyone got any documented numbers to show on a newer E55 demonstrating substantial gains from the ECU mod? I do not mean pulley and ecu or anything like that. My theory is that the code has been a biatch to break. I don't know that Powerchip even has (yet). I think Kleeman is almost there and that RennTech has cracked the code but hasn't found the optimal settings. Any feedback?
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Seems everyone that does the Renn or Kleemann stuff does both ecu and pulley the same time.The ASP guys are the non ecu using gang.
You're asking pulley alone dyno then ecu+pulley dyno info correct?Thats exactly what Im curious to see.
You're asking pulley alone dyno then ecu+pulley dyno info correct?Thats exactly what Im curious to see.
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Has anyone got any documented numbers to show on a newer E55 demonstrating substantial gains from the ECU mod? I do not mean pulley and ecu or anything like that. My theory is that the code has been a biatch to break. I don't know that Powerchip even has (yet). I think Kleeman is almost there and that RennTech has cracked the code but hasn't found the optimal settings. Any feedback?
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It is and I want to see true gains from the ECU mod portion on newer models. Is it there?
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Are our cars really that much different?
We had a dyno session two years ago in ATL where we ran a bunch of E55's (4 if I remember correctly) and a CLS55. All of them on that day with varied mileage dynod within 12 RWHP of each other.
I think much of the variation that we see here is condition related and dyno related more than variations of the engines.
With that said, I have certainly also seen some E55's put down much bigger numbers than others but never when a bunch have been run on the same day in stock configurations.
Just food for thought.
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We had a dyno session two years ago in ATL where we ran a bunch of E55's (4 if I remember correctly) and a CLS55. All of them on that day with varied mileage dynod within 12 RWHP of each other.
I think much of the variation that we see here is condition related and dyno related more than variations of the engines.
With that said, I have certainly also seen some E55's put down much bigger numbers than others but never when a bunch have been run on the same day in stock configurations.
Just food for thought.
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My Powerchip works just fine. Gain is small, but worth it.
I have to have Kleemann do my TMU software in a couple of weeks with my next set of mods. Powerchip doesn't do TMU software. I will have the best of both worlds in a couple of weeks.
I have to have Kleemann do my TMU software in a couple of weeks with my next set of mods. Powerchip doesn't do TMU software. I will have the best of both worlds in a couple of weeks.
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What is the build date on your car? i am seeing that the Cars built in '05 and newer are the problem children. The older cars are fine as long as they do not have the updated MB ECU flashes. Do you have that done, or did you avoid it? I've never wanted to avoid MB and mine came with the flash.
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Not doubting you in any way, but I prefer to hear from people that have actually done it and see their feedback.
Edit: I mean the owners. I'm not doubting you have done it to newer models, I just want to hear from the owners.
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What is the build date on your car? i am seeing that the Cars built in '05 and newer are the problem children. The older cars are fine as long as they do not have the updated MB ECU flashes. Do you have that done, or did you avoid it? I've never wanted to avoid MB and mine came with the flash.
The only issues I have had, is that when they removed the updated flash it removed the software to tell the back battery to recharge the front. The dealership was able to load the software for me without touching the ECU. Other than that, I haven't had any complaints with my ECU. I even did Vic's TB after all that with no problems.
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So, I may be onto something here. I still haven't seen ANYONE be able to ECU mod a car with the newest MB flash on it. I won't "undo" the flash. That was my only rule. Hmmm, I wonder how everyone feels who has paid for the $3000ish for ECU flashes, knowing that they got jipped?
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So, I may be onto something here. I still haven't seen ANYONE be able to ECU mod a car with the newest MB flash on it. I won't "undo" the flash. That was my only rule. Hmmm, I wonder how everyone feels who has paid for the $3000ish for ECU flashes, knowing that they got jipped?
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Powerchip has dyno'd a lot of 05/06 E55's with substantial gains. 
Here's a stock E55K vs. a competitors software vs. Powerchip. As you can see, the Powerchip gains are very impressive.
Here's a stock E55K vs. a competitors software vs. Powerchip. As you can see, the Powerchip gains are very impressive.
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Mine had an 05 build date, and had the recall done. Remember all the drama I went thru? Powerchip had to take a pre-recall software off another AMG and load that into my car first. Then they loaded their software.
The only issues I have had, is that when they removed the updated flash it removed the software to tell the back battery to recharge the front. The dealership was able to load the software for me without touching the ECU. Other than that, I haven't had any complaints with my ECU. I even did Vic's TB after all that with no problems.
The only issues I have had, is that when they removed the updated flash it removed the software to tell the back battery to recharge the front. The dealership was able to load the software for me without touching the ECU. Other than that, I haven't had any complaints with my ECU. I even did Vic's TB after all that with no problems.
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Again, no disrespect to any vendors, but I know of too many people that have used each and had issues. My question is very specific and so I am simply wanting feedback from owners. As for Powerchip, if they really had the issues worked out for an '06, then why would they need to "undo" the MB flashes? I don't want to get into arguments here, so don't even bother answering that. If there is an owner with Powerchip on an '06 WITH current MB flashes, then I am interested to hear their comments. If not, I'm not.
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Again, no disrespect to any vendors, but I know of too many people that have used each and had issues. My question is very specific and so I am simply wanting feedback from owners. As for Powerchip, if they really had the issues worked out for an '06, then why would they need to "undo" the MB flashes? I don't want to get into arguments here, so don't even bother answering that. If there is an owner with Powerchip on an '06 WITH current MB flashes, then I am interested to hear their comments. If not, I'm not.
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yes sir 06 all updates. i had the first flash that wasnt right so adam reflashed a different file and bam there it was just as they claimed. i talked about this on another thread that why is there different files for different cars. after my headers were installed adam wanted to keep my car longer so he could try different files to get the best gains. that is crazy to me i would think they are all the same but hey what do i know.
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Thanks. I'll be honest with you up front. As you've learned i'm opinionated and speak my mind. That got me on a bad start with EVoSport, so I just don't see me getting in good with them again. I do like your products and style, so maybe we can start over.
