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Old 05-17-2007, 09:24 AM
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No longer stock '06 E55, A3 3.2 Quattro, LRD4 HSE, R107 280SL
After all this "tinkering" and cleaning ... I have one question : are you going to fit a catch can... ?

Old 05-17-2007, 09:49 AM
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Keep them coming Finny!! This is just awesome.. I feel like I am right there with you watching you take it apart.. LOL..
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After all this "tinkering" and cleaning ... I have one question : are you going to fit a catch can... ?

Yeah... I reckon I should but what color to choose???

Hard decision...

Any suggestions?
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Finny
I'm not sure what these are for but it's part of the barrel where the compression occurs so I didn't want to screw around with this area. The space where the final product is delivered is where I thought some flow improvements could be made.

Only speculating here... maybe as the rooters pass over these slots pressure is released gradually to help prevent oscillation or excessive noise???
Yes that's right. It has got something to with the noise. If you fill up these slots the supercharger becomes louder. You'll get the typical but louder howl (is it the right word?). I would rather suppose that the SLR has got smaller or even no slots. So he gets his awesome blower sound *slobbering*
(My source is a friend of mine who's pimpin (technically) his Fbody.

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Old 05-23-2007, 03:44 PM
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Wink Some Head For Everyone... We all need a bit...

Here's some shots of the heads half way done. New seats were added to accommodate the larger valves and so far Eddie has managed to flow 650+ HP from these beauties. Of course in a forced application where talking larger numbers depending on final boost pressure. Eddie is also porting and port matching the inlet manifold to the heads and real 722 SLR coolers. The flow is going to be awesome! When these items are finished I'll post more shots of the final product before the engine assembly.

The guy who ported this lot is "Eddie Woods" of "Head Stud Developments P/L" Melbourne Australia who is a GURU! Thanks mate! TOP JOB!


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Exhaust spring oil return duct. Don't go to hard here. Yep, the small bump.


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Same.


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Very subtle obstruction but irrelevant in affecting flow.


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Looking down the return duct.


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Numbers? not sure but the chamber volume has slightly increased by material removal & Valve shape. By doing this gets more mixture into the chamber.



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Opened Inlet runner. The injector sits in that little hole.


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Same.


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S/C Bodie and inlet runners. Love that little vac device in the background. Need one too.


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Group shot.


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Cam valley.


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Inlets.


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Rough chew out of the inlet.


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Other side of inlet.


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Exhaust out. Note hardened valve seat


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Exhaust side.


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Same...


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Group shot.


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Chamber.


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Same.


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Inlet.


More soon...
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Looks good Finny!

How long more before the head gets done? Or what is the overall time frame from start to finish on that?
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This is amazing. Thank-you.
Old 05-23-2007, 04:39 PM
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Did I read right .... reall 722 SLR coolers going in here ??

O la la ...!
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Looks good Finny!

How long more before the head gets done? Or what is the overall time frame from start to finish on that?
Not sure, but I have to wait three weeks as Eddie is very busy. I pick them up next week.

The custom valves were sent out to be hardened which took some time as well.

I would say 2 to 3 days at least for the pros...?
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Did I read right .... reall 722 SLR coolers going in here ??

O la la ...!
Yep
Old 05-24-2007, 03:27 AM
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This sounds like the guy from the movie Jurrasic Park ...

"We have spared no expense..."

I was thinking the bonnet lid should be modified so the SLR coolers are visible and sit flush with the bonnet surface .... that would be absolutely killer also will give you more space to work with inside and also add some extra cooling.

I was trying to find a spot to mount the catch can so that it remains accessible / visible and I was surprised to see how crowded that engine bay is ...
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Nice project Finny.
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[QUOTE=stevebez;2227399]
I was thinking the bonnet lid should be modified so the SLR coolers are visible and sit flush with the bonnet surface .... that would be absolutely killer also will give you more space to work with inside and also add some extra cooling.
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I dont know how much a OEM hood costs, but here is a CF hood that might be easier to mod than the OEM aluminum. (at least for me)

orginaly posted by ImInBoca

http://www.euroteckmotorsports.com/i...il&product=170

Hopefully the link works, if not just go to www.euroteckmotorsports.com. They are located in Florida. There is a photo of what looks like a white or silver W211 with the CF hood. The price they have it listed for is $1,800. They also offer a CF trunk as well.

Again, thanks Finny great pics.
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A carbonfibre hood/bonnet would be illegal in Australia and he's very likely to be picked up very quickly (unless it was painted the same colour as the car). A Benz wont protect him for the 'anti-hooning' laws that exist in most states - the CF bonnet would stand out like a sore thumb.
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I dont know how much a OEM hood costs, but here is a CF hood that might be easier to mod than the OEM aluminum. (at least for me)

orginaly posted by ImInBoca

http://www.euroteckmotorsports.com/i...il&product=170

Hopefully the link works, if not just go to www.euroteckmotorsports.com. They are located in Florida. There is a photo of what looks like a white or silver W211 with the CF hood. The price they have it listed for is $1,800. They also offer a CF trunk as well.

Again, thanks Finny great pics.
Would love to use the CF job, but where I come from using a CF hood alters the cars crash dynamics and is deemed illegal for street use. SUX

Oh just seen OzE55's post... 100% correct...

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Can you tell me what the two metal pipes are on the left side of the supercharger near the pulley. I assume one is for the inflow of coolant into the supercharger. Is the other for the outflow of coolant or do they both flow coolant into the supercharger. Thanks.
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Left cold inlet , right hot outlet of coolant.
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Originally Posted by stevebez
Left cold inlet , right hot outlet of coolant.
thanks
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If cooling the intake air is (for cars not with SLR intercoolers!!!!) limited by the intercooler core efficiency could the supercharger itself be cooled more efficiently by utilising the pipes youve just pointed out? Could the SC have a separate cooling circiut and higher flow pump??
Just a thought.
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I thought of having a water jacket for the blower using the same circuit as the intercooler - but I doubt this will help massively - and will add to overall resistance to pumping the fluid all around ....

What might work reasonably well is a water jacket fitted just below the SC where it bends 90deg into the IC housing ... the area is completely open to the motor ... cooling this section will have benefits ... but finding a way to do this easily ??? hmmm not easy... mbe getting the AC to blow on here !!! LOL

BTW I heard 030 specced cars had bigger intercoolers??? Any truth to this?
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Originally Posted by stevebez
What might work reasonably well is a water jacket fitted just below the SC where it bends 90deg into the IC housing ... the area is completely open to the motor ... cooling this section will have benefits ... but finding a way to do this easily ??? hmmm not easy... mbe getting the AC to blow on here !!! LOL
Do you have a picture of this area?
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Finny,
Can you tell me what the two metal pipes are on the left side of the supercharger near the pulley. I assume one is for the inflow of coolant into the supercharger. Is the other for the outflow of coolant or do they both flow coolant into the supercharger. Thanks.
As Steve mentioned, it's for the water circuit to the inter-cooler core mounted just under the supercharger in the inlet manifold. This core costs around a 3 to 4 psi loss which further stresses the pulley system.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the core is deleted and replaced with units of much less resistance. Increased psi with less pulley tax... Mmmm interesting...
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Originally Posted by Finny
As Steve mentioned, it's for the water circuit to the inter-cooler core mounted just under the supercharger in the inlet manifold. This core costs around a 3 to 4 psi loss which further stresses the pulley system.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the core is deleted and replaced with units of much less resistance. Increased psi with less pulley tax... Mmmm interesting...
thanks
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Well as far as the coolant lines are concerned you should know what to do now! Get it going...


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