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Old 10-08-2002, 05:46 PM
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I GIVE UP! You are too far down under!

Originally posted by stephens
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W211 E55 is more expensive than S430 by and slightly cheaper than S500

I have included a table below of current model comparative pricing.
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S430 $73K $206K $199K
E500 $58K $170K $154K - Avantgarde
..E55 $87K $225K $220K
stephens,you will never understand if you don't stop using the prices which include sales tax and stop using a car that the US does not get. That price is for a basic S430 with short wheel base and without Comand, Moonroof and ABC suspension, etc. As long as you use those flawed numbers you will never get it!

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Re: I GIVE UP! You are too far down under!

Originally posted by E55 KEV
stephens,you will never understand if you don't stop using the prices which include sales tax and stop using a car that the US does not get. That price is for a basic S430 with short wheel base and without Comand, Moonroof and ABC suspension, etc. As long as you use those flaw number you will never get it!

Kev, I gave up on this "****" long time ago. This mate is truly truly too far down under-nicely put. If you go to the S55 forum you can find a post from a guy from SF who ordered 2003 S55 with all the new goodies and 500 horses engine all for $110k and he also said that price of S55 despite all the improovment is only slightly more so I just don't see how E55 would go up in price so much, this mate is insane.
I also read his posts and found nothing in them to enhance my expirience of driving my Benz therefore they are "unconstractive", what a ****/dufus from down under.
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I give up you're right. The rest of the world has already seen a price rise on the new E55, based on real released prices, but because the US is so special this won't occur.
What have taxes etc got to do with a new models price increase. taxes have not changed between W210 and W211 E55 in Europe, NZ or Australia. They have all had a price rise on the E55 ONLY because MB increased the price full stop. What don't you understand about this?

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What ever. You don't even have a Benz to enhance the driving experience of, have fun with your super fat *** wheel smart car.

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AUSSIES PAY $120K usd FOR A $74K usd E55

Originally posted by stephens
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What have taxes etc got to do with a new models price increase.
Taxes has a lot to do with it! I have been quoting "LISTPRICE" "RETAIL PRICE" 'MSRP'' (Manufactor Suggested Retail Price) and you keep quoting prices with the Goverments Sales & Luxury taxes included. The sales tax issue is moot here in America because it varies for every 50 states and the list price printed on www.mbusa.com do not include it like in Australia. That tax money goes to the Government not the dealer. Everyone pays some form of friggin sales tax - it varies. Some countries in the Middle East pay 100% taxes for Mercedes imports. The highest US State Tax is probably 8%. These taxes would never be listed on www.mbusa.com or any selling price of any car sold in America.

For the last time the selling price of the W211 E55 in Germany is 75,500 euros not '87k'. 87,580 euro is the amount with 16% MwSt SALES TAX added.

AGAIN 87k EURO IS THE PRICE WITH THE 16% SALES TAX ADDED to 75,500!

75,500 euro is the list price, the selling price of the car and that equals $74,114 usd - Don't add the sales tax for us!

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Taxes already added to E55 Price Down Under!

Stephens can you tell us what the price of the E55 before GST and LST are added? The price of $219,900 includes both Government Sales and Luxury Taxes.

This Information was found on the Australian Mercedes E55 webpage:

"* All prices are recommended Retail Prices inclusive of GST / LCT where applicable but not including Dealer Charges, Government Statutory Charges or optional equipment. Prices are current at the time of publication and subject to change without notice."

"* A 10% GST applies up to a list price of $51,826 and 35% GST/LCT (Luxury Car Tax) applies on any balance."

Australian E55 Price List

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$79K sticker?

A guy at another site (mercedesshop) says he saw the sticker at a dealer the other day.

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http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...highlight=w211
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That guy is in Maryland. I just sent him a Private Message to get the information on which dealership. Got to see it.
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Re: Taxes already added to E55 Price Down Under!

Originally posted by E55 KEV
Stephens can you tell us what the price of the E55 before GST and LST are added? The price of $219,900 includes both Government Sales and Luxury Taxes.

This Information was found on the Australian Mercedes E55 webpage:

"* All prices are recommended Retail Prices inclusive of GST / LCT where applicable but not including Dealer Charges, Government Statutory Charges or optional equipment. Prices are current at the time of publication and subject to change without notice."

"* A 10% GST applies up to a list price of $51,826 and 35% GST/LCT (Luxury Car Tax) applies on any balance."

Australian E55 Price List
Sounds like this "****" of a mate knows nothing about his own taxes.
I'm surprized you were so persistent just to prove the obvious to the "****".
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Originally posted by stephens
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I give up you're right. The rest of the world has already seen a price rise on the new E55, based on real released prices, but because the US is so special this won't occur.
What have taxes etc got to do with a new models price increase. taxes have not changed between W210 and W211 E55 in Europe, NZ or Australia. They have all had a price rise on the E55 ONLY because MB increased the price full stop. What don't you understand about this?

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What ever. You don't even have a Benz to enhance the driving experience of, have fun with your super fat *** wheel smart car.

What an angry, misinformed, confused "****" from down under. I'll bet this mate was kicked by the kangaroo recently that is why the "****" from down under does not make any sence other than to himself.
I've seen this National Geographic film were another "****" form down under was kicked by the kanga, looked funny but the mate was on the groung confused about what just happaned, kind of like this one here.
Does anybody have the number of the mates down under being kicked by the kangas? I bet its more common than the problems on the new BMW 7. Anybody??
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This is funny!

Fast Eddy obviously has nothing better to do than to make fun of people on the board! It's sad to think he has nothing better to do than to make fun of jl88 or Stephens. I was thinking if people dont respond to what he says (unlike I am doing now LOL) then he will stop, afterall he is looking for a reaction!

What a *****r!!

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TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

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$79K sticker?

A guy at another site (mercedesshop) says he saw the sticker at a dealer the other day.

See here.....

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...highlight=w211
I just called the dealership in Annapolis Maryland and spoke with a salesman 'Wayne' at (410) 268-2222. The damn car sitting in the showroom is a 2002 E55! I guess some people don't know cars.
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Re: TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

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The damn car sitting in the showroom is a 2002 E55! I guess some people don't know cars.

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Re: TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

Originally posted by E55 KEV
I just called the dealership in Annapolis Maryland and spoke with a salesman 'Wayne' at (410) 268-2222. The damn car sitting in the showroom is a 2002 E55! I guess some people don't know cars.

Kev, how would a dealership in Annapolis be the first one to recieve a 2003 E55? I thought the car is not even here for another 1/2 year.
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Re: Re: TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

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Kev, how would a dealership in Annapolis be the first one to recieve a 2003 E55? I thought the car is not even here for another 1/2 year.
I followed up on the lead from that member on www.mercedesshop.com just to be sure. I rebuffed him on that board for making false statements and not knowing cars. I should have known that it was not good to be true.

But you never know - Mercedes like all manufactors have to send every new model to the US for testing prior to selling required by DOT and EPA I believe, so there will be some W211 E55's driving around the US somewhere. That is how a car is certified prior to sell in the US.
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According to a report posted elsewhere, 211E55's will be available in select Euro dealerships for viewing this month.
Consumers expected to begin getting them in December.

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