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Old 06-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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Agreed, but no mention was made of mods. I'm a big fan of the E55 but modded vs modded is another story
Renntech Stage 5.

Stock E55 would have been a much closer race with the 997TT probably hanging onto the lead but certainly not a total beating.
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Originally Posted by Rudyrono
Renntech Stage 5.

Stock E55 would have been a much closer race with the 997TT probably hanging onto the lead but certainly not a total beating.
Stage 5.

And it looks like you left it looking stock. You, sir, have an evil sense of humor.
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Originally Posted by Rudyrono
You beat me to the punch. The 997TT isn't much faster than the M6.
No way that is true. 997TT has been timed under 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile by numerous magazines with close to 120mph trap speeds (on overboost). Plus with only 12,000$ in mods (EVO 610 Package), it ran 10.9 @ 127.7mph (evoms.com). With only ecu reflash, they got 11.7 @ 122mph. Hey I would personally be satisfied with 10.9 @ 127.7mph... plus they didn't even swap the variable turbo's so that 997TT is a perfect daily driver with linear and predictable power delivery, unlike that Protomotive car. I also hate the 996 interior... its just pure crap when you compare it to the 997 interior.
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Ok, so that is about as bad as I got beat by my friends (DJ Self) 996TT in my stage 3+ E55. I want to see these two guys race -- VA and MD cars.

I will thrown down $100 into the pot for a Lily Pons race.
I'm gonna rent MIR again soon. I remember last time DJ Self didnt want his times posted. If you wat I can ask Scott if he will run at Lily Pons. Are we talkin for money or fun?
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No way that is true. 997TT has been timed under 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile by numerous magazines with close to 120mph trap speeds (on overboost). Plus with only 12,000$ in mods (EVO 610 Package), it ran 10.9 @ 127.7mph (evoms.com). With only ecu reflash, they got 11.7 @ 122mph. Hey I would personally be satisfied with 10.9 @ 127.7mph... plus they didn't even swap the variable turbo's so that 997TT is a perfect daily driver with linear and predictable power delivery, unlike that Protomotive car. I also hate the 996 interior... its just pure crap when you compare it to the 997 interior.

sorry but that is true. Look at the trapspeeds....M6's are generally in the 116-118 range, whereas stock 997TT's do 117-120, that's not much faster. Quite close in comparison from highway rolls, with the 997TT having the advantage. The 997TT is quicker....but it is not by "that much", stock for stock
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I'm gonna rent MIR again soon
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If I mod my 997TT - OK I installed an exhaust yesterday (Hell, I had the car for 4 days) I will seriously consider using Todd's (Protomotive) chip. His "base" package for the 997TT is very inexpensive. EVO/GIAC gets most of the publicity but Todd really knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by Tuskir
No way that is true. 997TT has been timed under 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile by numerous magazines with close to 120mph trap speeds (on overboost). Plus with only 12,000$ in mods (EVO 610 Package), it ran 10.9 @ 127.7mph (evoms.com). With only ecu reflash, they got 11.7 @ 122mph. Hey I would personally be satisfied with 10.9 @ 127.7mph... plus they didn't even swap the variable turbo's so that 997TT is a perfect daily driver with linear and predictable power delivery, unlike that Protomotive car. I also hate the 996 interior... its just pure crap when you compare it to the 997 interior.
EVOMS 996tt ran mid 9's.
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What I find amazing about the protomotive - and if I understand their somewhat wierd (read cr*p) website - the 830rwhp is produced with "only" 1.3 bar boost - thats a chunk but its not massive by any means... really impressive getting 830 rwhp from that boost setup....
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What I find amazing about the protomotive - and if I understand their somewhat wierd (read cr*p) website - the 830rwhp is produced with "only" 1.3 bar boost - thats a chunk but its not massive by any means... really impressive getting 830 rwhp from that boost setup....
Their design is all about flow and efficiency... not boost. They are awesome and reliable.

BTW the graph on their site is for a 1997 993tt not the 996tt.

Here is a video of Alex's protomotive beast (making a tad more hp than Scotts I believe) racing Kawasaki 1200R: A lot of money went into this car!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...1210fe2ff3.htm
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sorry but that is true. Look at the trapspeeds....M6's are generally in the 116-118 range, whereas stock 997TT's do 117-120, that's not much faster. Quite close in comparison from highway rolls, with the 997TT having the advantage. The 997TT is quicker....but it is not by "that much", stock for stock
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I'm gonna rent MIR again soon. I remember last time DJ Self didnt want his times posted. If you wat I can ask Scott if he will run at Lily Pons. Are we talkin for money or fun?

DJ Self will never tell anyone his ETs becuase he is a hardcore street racer. He had a C5 TT LPE trappin 150 on low boost and has a 750hp Viper and his 996tt that supposedly crushes it. I don't think he likes to own cars slower than 140 traps. I will see if he is up for a Lily Pons race....these hardcore folks however like to negotiate 2 hours on the kick, car lengths. I just want to see a heads up race. Even if it is at MIR w/o the tree and lights.

When you saw him run back at MIR in Sept did he car seem like a 130, 140, 145 mph car?
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
When you saw him run back at MIR in Sept did he car seem like a 130, 140, 145 mph car?
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. It wasnt loud, it was a tip, but it went down the track REAL quick!
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Rudyrono was the 997 TT a red one?

The 997 TT that you raced, was it by chance a red one with personalized plates, something like "RBG," "GBR" or something like that?

Originally Posted by Rudyrono
I ran him about 2 months ago. Nice cool day. We did two passes on the freeway (pretty empty) from about 60 to 130. I walked him both passes. We then got on the street where we went from a dig and I got out about 2 cars and continued to pull up to about 100 mph. That's when he threw in the towel.
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Originally Posted by Rudyrono
Renntech Stage 5.

Stock E55 would have been a much closer race with the 997TT probably hanging onto the lead but certainly not a total beating.
i just sold my e55 and now have a 997 turbo and can tell you for a fact that it will beat a stock e55 with no problem.granted the driver isn't a moron and doesn't miss a shift. my first race was against my friends 2004 viper which ran a 11.7 @118 bone stock here in florida.two races both from rolling starts as we couldn't catch a light(luckily for him).from 15 mph to 100 or so i had him 2 cars +.then from 50 mph to around 110,same result.as i stated he can drive very good as can i.this is the same car that beat my stock e55 by 1-2 cars.stage 5 renntech ,the race would be what you said it was possibly.depending on driver. but i can assure you that stock for stock,forget about it.i loved my e55 but comparing the two is comparing apples to oranges.and yes my 997 turbo is stock for now.

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