SlayerBY

Hi all, I would like to clarify which car is faster E63 or E55. Also it's very intresting if E55 faster from 0 to 200 km/h then E63.
Also want to know you opinioin why E63 slower then M5 0-250?
And last question I'am sure that everyone saw a moovie from M5 board E55 Kleemann 640 HP VS M6, I can't understand how mercedes lost!!! I wrote 3-4 letters to kleemann, but no answer. Thanks in advance for your answer.

AMG_Power

the M5 is slower that a 335i till 100mph!

chiromikey

no one really knows what happened with kleemann's car but i suspect a faulty i/c pump. my stage4 smokes my buddies m5 so bad it's not even funny.

stevebez

E63 slower than M5 to 250 because of gearing ... IMHO the E63 gearing is where they dropped the ball on this car ... it could have been a much better car ... its basically a 5 speed with 2 overdrives ...

No idea about the Kleemann thing but it sounds super suspect... does not add up does it?

Stock for stock very close - in qtr almost all reports that E55 are quicker ... longer run could be interesting but dont recall anyone doing one. Modded E55 is quicker - no question... but thats not really fair...

Mod for mod you will get more out of a E55 too ...

SlayerBY

Thanks for your answers. The reason I'am asking this questions here because all moovies with BMW's from 50-250 km/h I don't now such discipline, I know 1/4 mile, 0-100, 0-200, 0-250.

Moreover a question about what is faster E55 or E63, sure that all of you seen a moovie from AMG fest, E63 smokes E55 from the start, but in fact it's slower on 1/4 mile, am I right?

NinthSwat

Yeah right LOL

BTW: CLS63 is slower then C350

SlayerBY

Ahhh what about movies.

chem0

troll infestation

Cylinder Head

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Agreed. If they offer you any food don't eat it. You'll turn into a plant. Stay back troll, stay back.

oldgixxer

Umm,here have some of this...

NewMoses

From dragtimes.com

AMG_Power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPDP0B3zpaE

Carl Lassiter

One youtube video proves nothing. The M5 absolutely destroys the 335 from a stop, a slow roll, a high speed roll....

juicee63

Sorry Carl, but destroys?

The 335 is quite capable, I have never seen it "destroyed " by an M5. Of course the M5 walks right on by but I think the video is accurate. The US M5 is difficult to get going. The 335 is truly a perfect launch car it stays with me for half the track so I know it could hang with the M5 till perhaps 80 then its sadly over for the little bimmer. The 335 pops off the line similar to the EVO.

So in a race from 0-60 I think the 335 would make it close and could win. M5 is a great touring car, I think this is why most if not all of the cars KILLS come from a ROLL, and usually a higher speed roll. I think the 63 and M5 share this quality but the 63 is way easier to start from a stop. It is also possible that all the 335 cars I have seen are modded? They all had dealer plates so I guess I am assuming they were stock, its possible they had boost. I was only beating the 335 by .3-.6 in the 1/4 mile. I beat the M5 by about the same margin. The M5 just hates the 1/4 mile as the launch is seemingly as complex as the tax code. I love both cars and a stock 335 seems like a hell of a car for the price!!

Carl Lassiter

You are quite right about the 1/4 mile. Also, from launch I probably went too far using the word "destroys" as the 335 is much simpler due to it's power being largely made down low.

My problem with the 335 is that I guess I'm a tuner snob (S/RS, M, AMG) and "regular" cars as capable as the 335 make me feel uneasy.

Nice 1/4 runs in your 63, BTW. Beautiful ride and with 030 it'll stop as good as it goes i'd imagine.

juicee63

Believe me that little 335 was pissin me off!!! I was like man this little ******* is right with me , I think I broke my AMG pedal out of fear of losing to the lessor BMW. The brakes (030) are seriously incredible. I cannot wait to get my new tire set up for road racing (lighter wheels and r compounds) The AMG wheels are as heavy as some of the cars I am racing LOL. 36 lbs w/o the rubber. Thanks for the nice comments. I cannot wait to see your RS6, those Audis are mod freindly fer sure

rflow306

The reason it is a much closer race at altitude is because the ecu on the 335i compensates for the thinner air and keeps the waste-gate closed longer to make similar boost to sea level. In other words it will try and make close to the same power as sea-level. If both cars were stock at sea level you would pull away harder.
The 335's do run pretty good when you add a piggyback ecu.

Carl Lassiter

You're more than welcome.

Yeah, I'd heard the 030 wheels were very heavy. They look so damn good though. I remember when the forum was up in arms about initial poor reports about the 6.2 liter V8, my stance was that it would prove itself and that is exactly what it has done. 507 NA hp, 465lb/ft and 7-speeds is a great combination and on the hwy is probably even better than through the 1/4.

I'll say one thing about the 335i, the drivers have the typical 3-series mentality in that all they want to do is race. Quite annoying when there's as many in L.A. as there is, as you know.

The wait for the RS6 is killing me. I was seriously considering an M5 after driving my good friend's but have finally decided to wait it out. Last word is it will be another 12 months. I'm itching to put down my deposit but the dealer isn't even taking them yet. I'm going Daytona gray with black interior and may dechrome everything but the wing mirrors. For now though, I can just dream.