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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Looking to buy an E55...quick question

Did most of the problems people experienced in the '03 model get fixed for the '04 model? Should I stay away from the '03 model altogether and just look for an '04?
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Get as later model as you can afford.

2004 were better, but 2005 are even better.

If you are in SoCal I can do a pre-purchase inspection for you.

Good Luck!
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisco
Did most of the problems people experienced in the '03 model get fixed for the '04 model? Should I stay away from the '03 model altogether and just look for an '04?
Get a 63, full warranty and affordable, not quite as quick but certainly adequate HP. If you go with a 55, be patient and get one that is fully optioned.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vadim@GMGRacing
Get as later model as you can afford.

2004 were better, but 2005 are even better.

If you are in SoCal I can do a pre-purchase inspection for you.

Good Luck!
Why are the 05's better than the 04's?
Why are the 06's better than the 05's?
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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05 and up had CLS front suspension, which offers better geometry.

The quality of cars improved as the years went on. Also 05 and 06 likely to be lower miles and in better shape vs earlier cars.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vadim@GMGRacing
05 and up had CLS front suspension, which offers better geometry.

The quality of cars improved as the years went on. Also 05 and 06 likely to be lower miles and in better shape vs earlier cars.
Any diff between the 05-06?

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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Very, very minor.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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I went out shoppin today with no luck, back to searching the intraweb. And why is white so hard to find????
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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When E55s came out, dealers ordered silver and black.
Those are always easier to sell.

In later years they added white and other colors.

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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I went out shoppin today with no luck, back to searching the intraweb. And why is white so hard to find????
i've been trying to find a white 04 for a few months now.. they are really few and far between
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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White is a commodity color on those rides. Good luck in your search. be patient and get one with the options you want. +1 to all that Vadim is saying. He knows.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 03:52 AM
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What kind of issues are common or can I expect on an 03 or 04?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sack5000
, not quite as quick but certainly adequate HP.
Don't sell yourself short. The 63's are just as quick or quicker than stock E55's, they just don't feel that way.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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What kind of issues are common or can I expect on an 03 or 04?
Mostly electrical gremlins. GET an extended warranty if you get one. Other than that, it is really suspension upgrades that the '05 and newer have over those that count. I know of many with '03s that love them. It just depends on the options, etc.

If you are big into handling, then step up and get an '06. The difference in drive is HUGE.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MiamiE55
Don't sell yourself short. The 63's are just as quick or quicker than stock E55's, they just don't feel that way.

LOL, slow down there buddy. I've been an E63 fan since day 1, but please don't start that again. The E63 is definitely not the raw beast the E55 is. And yes, it has the HP to play. But, from a dig, it just isn't an E55. Now watch, you got all the 63 guys riled up. They'll be posting on here how they use and abuse 55K cars all the time or how well they hang with them.

I say we set up a ride to prove it once and for all. I'm definitely down. I'd love to do some highway blasts as well as twisties, so we can lay ALL of the shoulda coulda wouldas at the door.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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LOL, slow down there buddy. I've been an E63 fan since day 1, but please don't start that again. The E63 is definitely not the raw beast the E55 is. And yes, it has the HP to play. But, from a dig, it just isn't an E55. Now watch, you got all the 63 guys riled up. They'll be posting on here how they use and abuse 55K cars all the time or how well they hang with them.

I say we set up a ride to prove it once and for all. I'm definitely down. I'd love to do some highway blasts as well as twisties, so we can lay ALL of the shoulda coulda wouldas at the door.
Lol, i didn't mean to rile up the 63 guys! I agree the 63 is not the raw beast that the E55 is, but aside from all that, aren't their performance numbers pretty much the same, give or take a little?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Lol, i didn't mean to rile up the 63 guys! I agree the 63 is not the raw beast that the E55 is, but aside from all that, aren't their performance numbers pretty much the same, give or take a little?

They are different animals, but yeah in the end both are monsters. Actually, the only thing I am leary on with the 63 is the 7g tranny. Short of that, I'd have considered one over the E55. Stock to stock, the E63 is a great car for sure.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Just came across this silver '04 w/ 22,000 on the odo...http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=20

Goin to take a look at it tomorrow, does anyone have access to free carfax reports?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
Mostly electrical gremlins. GET an extended warranty if you get one. Other than that, it is really suspension upgrades that the '05 and newer have over those that count. I know of many with '03s that love them. It just depends on the options, etc.

If you are big into handling, then step up and get an '06. The difference in drive is HUGE.
Thanks Jangy. Electrical gremlins I can handle....as long as I don't feed them after midnight. Mechanical issues with the supercharger etc. is what I am worried about....that's why I'm looking at an NA M5 as well. How is the mechanical reliability of the E55? I also plan on driving it for a while, so is there a noticible perforamce degrading with higher mileage?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisco
Just came across this silver '04 w/ 22,000 on the odo...http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=20

Goin to take a look at it tomorrow, does anyone have access to free carfax reports?
Better steer clear of Luxury Motors. The cars are priced right but you really need to be careful. Do a search out on the web, they have had issues with the authorities. Also there are many threads here you can find discussing Luxury Motors. If you can get to Chicago do so. They seem to scrape up ALL the metal left over at the auctions. They are absolute masters at reconditioning the cars. They do have good cars just do your homework. Don't they have a white car that you want?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Better steer clear of Luxury Motors. The cars are priced right but you really need to be careful. Do a search out on the web, they have had issues with the authorities. Also there are many threads here you can find discussing Luxury Motors. If you can get to Chicago do so. They seem to scrape up ALL the metal left over at the auctions. They are absolute masters at reconditioning the cars. They do have good cars just do your homework. Don't they have a white car that you want?
What should I be careful/fearful of? If I run a carfax and its clean and then get it checked out by a 3rd party what else should I be cautious about? That '03 white one was located at Midwest Luxury & Imports in westmont which didn't impress me.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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After doing some research on luxury motors it seems that you can get a good deal there if you are EXTREMELY cautious. I'm going to give it a shot and get the car checked out at an independent dealership, run the VIN, carfax, etc. Question though, would I be able to get it put under warranty at a different dealership? Sorry for the noob questions, oh and this guy's review is pretty funny:
"I leased a car from this bald headed degenerate salesman named Jason. His knowledge of the vehicle and its options was terrible. He did not even get the VIN # correct on the leasing agreement. When I tried to insure the car the VIN # was “not found” by the insurance company and I had to deal with Jason the lowlife for a second time. Something so simple as to retrieve the correct VIN # was too much to ask of this below average uneducated bald headed degenerated degenerate. He did not know how to use any of the navigation controls or personal settings. During the test drive he farted in the car and I almost vomited. He also spilled coffee on the leasing documents. I was thinking…he needs to get neutered so he cannot infect the global gene pool. I felt so bad for him because he had to live with himself for the rest of his unfortunate life that I gave him the business anyway. Needless to say, if you decide to purchase at Luxury Motors in Downers Grove do your own in-depth due diligence on the car in which you have interest and make sure you do not deal with a bald headed Rogaine needing below average lowlife degenerate named Jason who, by the way, smelled like the monkey cage at the zoo. Hopefully he will take his commission and purchase mouthwash, deodorant, and a wig for that unsightly bald head that contains little or no brain."

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisco
After doing some research on luxury motors it seems that you can get a good deal there if you are EXTREMELY cautious. I'm going to give it a shot and get the car checked out at an independent dealership, run the VIN, carfax, etc. Question though, would I be able to get it put under warranty at a different dealership? Sorry for the noob questions, oh and this guy's review is pretty funny:
"I leased a car from this bald headed degenerate salesman named Jason. His knowledge of the vehicle and its options was terrible. He did not even get the VIN # correct on the leasing agreement. When I tried to insure the car the VIN # was “not found” by the insurance company and I had to deal with Jason the lowlife for a second time. Something so simple as to retrieve the correct VIN # was too much to ask of this below average uneducated bald headed degenerated degenerate. He did not know how to use any of the navigation controls or personal settings. During the test drive he farted in the car and I almost vomited. He also spilled coffee on the leasing documents. I was thinking…he needs to get neutered so he cannot infect the global gene pool. I felt so bad for him because he had to live with himself for the rest of his unfortunate life that I gave him the business anyway. Needless to say, if you decide to purchase at Luxury Motors in Downers Grove do your own in-depth due diligence on the car in which you have interest and make sure you do not deal with a bald headed Rogaine needing below average lowlife degenerate named Jason who, by the way, smelled like the monkey cage at the zoo. Hopefully he will take his commission and purchase mouthwash, deodorant, and a wig for that unsightly bald head that contains little or no brain."
You will not be able to get a Mercedes Benz warranty. Is there anything left on the 04? Look inot an after market warranty. Do a search here to find the best one. Be careful about getting the car checked out, they will offer to take it to the local MB dealer and pay for the checkup and have the results sent to you. I have read that they are in with Luxury Motors. Here's some good news: The car is at Luxury Motors O'Hare not Downer's Grove so that degenerate proably will not be there. Another piece of good news, Luxury Motors will come down quite a bit if you are a patient buyer. Make sure the car has the options they are saying it does. They make so many errors you never can be too sure you are getting what they put down. Also, make sure there are two sets of keys, a complete set of manuals, etc. One last point, get in the car and take it to a remote located body shop and pay $50 and have the owner go over the car. If there has been paint work he will be able to tell you, then run away from the deal. The more pressure LM puts on you the more likely something is wrong with the car. If the car was perfect, it wouldn't be there. Find out where the car was driven and if it was up North or near either coast, bolt. The best thing to do may be to get a later model due to the improvements made by MB. An '06 should be available for around $60K with most options and low miles. You will be happy and be able to sleep easy. Good luck.

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I don't know a thing about that dealer, since the dealers around here are all legit. But, one thing I would highly recommend is to get a CPO. Only the nicer specimens are kept and put through the process of being certified PLUS you get the extended warranty. The others may have just picked it up at auction and have questionable pasts.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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You will not be able to get a Mercedes Benz warranty. Is there anything left on the 04? Look inot an after market warranty. Do a search here to find the best one. Be careful about getting the car checked out, they will offer to take it to the local MB dealer and pay for the checkup and have the results sent to you. I have read that they are in with Luxury Motors. Here's some good news: The car is at Luxury Motors O'Hare not Downer's Grove so that degenerate proably will not be there. Another piece of good news, Luxury Motors will come down quite a bit if you are a patient buyer. Make sure the car has the options they are saying it does. They make so many errors you never can be too sure you are getting what they put down. Also, make sure there are two sets of keys, a complete set of manuals, etc. One last point, get in the car and take it to a remote located body shop and pay $50 and have the owner go over the car. If there has been paint work he will be able to tell you, then run away from the deal. The more pressure LM puts on you the more likely something is wrong with the car. If the car was perfect, it wouldn't be there. Find out where the car was driven and if it was up North or near either coast, bolt. The best thing to do may be to get a later model due to the improvements made by MB. An '06 should be available for around $60K with most options and low miles. You will be happy and be able to sleep easy. Good luck.
Thanks a lot for the tips I'm going to go take a look because it's a great deal but things too good to be true usually are
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