E55 RUSS

I went to test my beast list night to local 1/4 course...It nothing special just regular airport payment, no preparetion or clue...

Last time I dynoed...it has just ASP pullies, Headers Primary Cats, Secodaries still on, E.race mufflers...It was quite cold a round 41 F and car pulled on DynoDynamic machine 620.9 HP at the crank and 900 Torgues...

My car has ASP pullies, Kleemann style headers, no cats, E.Race mufflers, VRP TB, VRP Wrap kit, PTE stat, K&Ns, airtubes and airboxes covered with thermotec...So I hope I have around 650 HP at the crank NOW...wit extra TB and Wrap kit...

I am runing 19's Carlsson Ultra Light wheels with 285/30 Yoko Advan tyres at the back...


Last I went to track and temp was around 82F...1st run was Kleemann K4 (Small pullies, Headers, 200cell Cats, mufflers, TB and CAMS) with full Kleemann Exhausts (Kleemann dealers car), Kleemann claim it pulls around 640 HP and 900 Torgues...He is runing stock 18 wheels with 265 tyres...

Lights green, we are off, I 1st on throtle, getting better reaction times, pulled 1-1.5 cars on him, then he slowly starts to catch UP...I though I would kill him but I only beat by half a hood...

Is it his CAMs and 265 tyres working and my 285/30 on 19 working against ME ??? As the speed would rise he would definately slowly pass ME...

So this brings ME to a quiestion...HE doesnt have wrap kit, so he should be lossing boost at WOT and his belt should be spinning and he is actually catching UP...that not good, I thought I would run much better on TOP now with TB and Wrap kit...So I start to get paranoyed, I even get this in my dream last night May something is WRONG, am I loosing POWER somewhere or I need to go back to 275/30...

We both did 12.8...but my 12.8 was low and his was high... Our track is like regular road about about 500 feet above sea-level...and it was quite HOT///

The other thing tha5t shocked ME and made a sleepless night ( I mean day, since I came back 5.30 in the morning) is that I runned was another E55 which has my ECU, Headers, no Cats and should have around 550HP and 800 Torgues...and he was running lightweight 18s wheels with Perrelli slicks (for track) 225/40 or 45 I think...and I was shocked when I got I jump and pulled hard on him about 2 cars 1st and then he slowly started to catch UP and we went dead even at the finish...and he acually had better times then ME 12.5...

I've got a run now...I will finish later...

Happy2th

12.8?? With 650 HP?

What am I missing?

Jakpro1

That's EXACTLY what happened to me with Rudyrono.

Starting to think the ASP pulley'd car dies a horrible death as those IAT's (heat) shoot through the roof.

Other than that, so many variables, it's hard to even know where to start.

Do you have any type of ECU tune?? Definitely want the VRUS ECU tune.....best part of it (from what I hear) is that it really tinkers with the timing vs IAT variables. As your heat came on last night, I bet timing starting pulling.

Last thing, do you have OBDII unit, if not, it's time to order and run some tests on those IAT's etc.

Sorry bout the trouble. We'll get it figured out.

Jrocket

The same thing everyone else does.Track conditions,weather and altitude.

V12Godspeed

Russ i have said it a million times you could modify the crap out of your car:::if you dont have the proper cooling to run that monstrous ASP pulley your car will die man: the heat produced kills the car; your IATs must be really high: do you have aftermarket cooling?

in the kleeman car; they have cams and let me tell you that will definitely make the car run upstairs like a freight train:: keep me posted:

E55 RUSS

Some more later...yes I've orded IC mod...it should be ready in 2 weeks...

Stock S600 runned high mid 14th last night...


Could those small tyres of 550HP E55 cause 100HP and 100 Torgues difference ???

E55 RUSS

This happand with you even with IC mod ???

I have a customer ECU...Cory and Vadim told ME it fine but I am not 100% sure...

How can I measure IATs and what is OBDII unit ???

My chip tuner should have this right ???

More tuning more Problems my head goes around...

So you think with smaller pullies my car will actually pull harder on TOP ???

SleeperX

http://www.autoenginuity.com/

E55 RUSS

I continue...

In 1/4 final I runned against LPE ZO6 616 HP with 345 tyres...

Killed it off the line, everybody was shocked, ASP pullies really pull hard from the bottom, till 1/8 I was in front, then he caught up and pulled hard on ME...runned low 12s...

The most inportant thing that worried ME is that before when I had just ASP pullies, Headers, no CATS and E.race...and I had the same results, so I wonder am I loosing POWER somewhere ??? Cause with TB and Wrap Kit and was expecting to do better then this...

May TB is giving ME extra power and wrap kit is loosing it, if I recall correctly one member reported he lost 30RWHP, same what TB adds, so with all the tuning and the money spent I am the same power level LOL...Cause times didnt chaged much...When it was like 60F I was runing 12.5 with 275 tyres and 12.6 with 285 without extra TB and wrap kit...Now its hotter but I should have extra at least extra 30 HP at the wheels and still should run the time I runned previously

Could it be that with more BOOST due to Wrap kit , cause of even higher IATs and I am slower then I supposed to be with extra TB and pullies or could Wrap kit make ME loose power cuase extra pullies cause more drag and more heat on pully assembly ??? or its the weahter making my IAT go higher faster + my tyres are bigger ???

I can only guess....this is getting frustrating I dont know what do

Some please test wrap kit on dyno and tell ME that its working or NOT ???

juicee63

what did you run STOCK?

E55 RUSS

I never runned stock...but the best times stock e55 did there 13.2...

E55 55 HP with Headers and not Cat but with stock 18 265 tyres runs btw 12.9-13.1

E55 RUSS

IS it the best thing on the market I think I need to get this definately !!!

Adam, Vadim can you hook ME up with something like this and ship ASAP ???

SleeperX

There is another data logger out there that some board members have used. I can't recall the name of it though. Do a search for 'data logger'.

Vadim @ FD

I agree, that is your next mod.

Get a laptop and get any of available OBDII programms. I use www.nology.com, and data log your runs.

Do not guess, see exactly what is going on.

Otherwise, you are going to have a lot more sleepless days.

blackbenzz

You need cooling ASAP. Lighter 18" wheels with drag radials will help alot too especially since you're runing on a nonprepped street

Just a couple requests: Please stop capitalizing me and its called torque not torgues. Thanks.

E55 RUSS

Sorry man..English is not my native language and i dont have time to check every word I write...

blackbenzz

Its all good. Dont take it the wrong way, just suggestions. I'm tryin to help you out

But before you do that get the cooling and 18's with drag radials

E55 RUSS

Thanks...like I said cooling is on the way...

In a meanwhile I get OBDII and test and may be remove Wrap kit and see how the car performs without it...

If I going to get DR then I will 17 MT ET street 265/40/...

ChicagoX

Before you remove/add anything, please try some data-logging.

You will get a much clearer picture of what direction to take, rather than a trial-and-error approach.

My gut feeling is that you are losing power up top from the ECU due to insufficient cooling, but that is only a guess without the data.

A data logger will shed some light on the problem.

E55 RUSS

OK...I will order one ASAP...

chiromikey

how long have i been telling you to order a data logger???

the other popular data logger is autotap but imo the autoenginuity is much better. it also comes with software to allow you to use it like a gtech accelerometer and within a relatively short time (1-2yrs) will allow you to read all the starscan properties (to bad it won't be able to write to them!!!). they're only $199 online or from ebay.

E55 RUSS

Man if I would do what everybody tells ME that I would be without my pant$$$ already...

Have you runned your beast in 1/4 after IC mod ???

What about Wrap kit..did you install it yet ???

MidniteBluBenz

Can someone explain what a Wrap kit is? I've never heard of one...

AMGfan

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...+belt+wrap+kit

MidniteBluBenz

Wow. One more mod I got to add to my list once I get my hands on one of these badboys.