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Hey ive been talking back and forth with the shop im going to get my work done at for a while. We were orignally going to go with a kleeman stage 2 package and a johnson I/C pump but now we are switching to VRUS products, specifically long tube vrus headers, pully, chip, and the johnson cm30. What's your guys experience with these products, and i am paying 7500 for parts plus install is that a good deal? Also im not getting an LSD, for now at least unless you guys feel it is really needed. I dont track the car but I can have a heavy foot from now and then 
. Also if anyone of you have experience with Ray Catena in edison or Millenium Mercedes in bridgewater am i going to have problems getting the car serviced with the mods?
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. Also if anyone of you have experience with Ray Catena in edison or Millenium Mercedes in bridgewater am i going to have problems getting the car serviced with the mods?p.s
sorry for how long this is
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Hey ive been talking back and forth with the shop im going to get my work done at for a while. We were orignally going to go with a kleeman stage 2 package and a johnson I/C pump but now we are switching to VRUS products, specifically long tube vrus headers, pully, chip, and the johnson cm30. What's your guys experience with these products, and i am paying 7500 for parts plus install is that a good deal? Also im not getting an LSD, for now at least unless you guys feel it is really needed. I dont track the car but I can have a heavy foot from now and then . Also if anyone of you have experience with Ray Catena in edison or Millenium Mercedes in bridgewater am i going to have problems getting the car serviced with the mods?
p.s
sorry for how long this is
. Also if anyone of you have experience with Ray Catena in edison or Millenium Mercedes in bridgewater am i going to have problems getting the car serviced with the mods?p.s
sorry for how long this is
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Im getting my work down from John Nouri at broadway performance, so im going to assume he is in touch with Vic. I talked to him recently and he said he is getting a VRUS pulley, maybe it was a misunderstanding, but he knows im not getting the work down for a little bit so maybe it will be out by then. I believe im getting a VRUS ecu as well. I was contemplating doing the front mount I/C but John told me i would be fine with just a cm30 pump since i dont really track my car. Is 7500 a good price for everything? What do you think i should be paying if i add in an LSD to that?
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With all due respect to John, a CM30 w/out a new HE won't do you much good (if any). Why not just let the OEM one burn out? You aren't adding cooling capacity or efficiency, so why?
Consider getting in on our potential GB from Brandon (Code 3?) for the HE. His regular price is $699 for a quality piece, so if a GB price happens, you may want in. I am getting the CM90. It is a pain to install and get right, but once in I am done worrying about cooling.
The price you are paying is fair.
LSD:
It isn't just for the track. When you pull onto a street you are typically turning (usually right). As you add throttle and the car leans, the weight of the car is lifted from the inside rear tire making it spin. Power is wasted and ESP kicks in. With an LSD, the two sides become joined mechanically (sp?). As the weight lifts off one side, it can't spin loose, because it is tethered to the other side, which is tightly grounded. In the end, it means you can accelerate through turns much better. If that matters, get it. If not, don't. I personally think the advantage in straight dragging is minimal.
Consider getting in on our potential GB from Brandon (Code 3?) for the HE. His regular price is $699 for a quality piece, so if a GB price happens, you may want in. I am getting the CM90. It is a pain to install and get right, but once in I am done worrying about cooling.
The price you are paying is fair.
LSD:
It isn't just for the track. When you pull onto a street you are typically turning (usually right). As you add throttle and the car leans, the weight of the car is lifted from the inside rear tire making it spin. Power is wasted and ESP kicks in. With an LSD, the two sides become joined mechanically (sp?). As the weight lifts off one side, it can't spin loose, because it is tethered to the other side, which is tightly grounded. In the end, it means you can accelerate through turns much better. If that matters, get it. If not, don't. I personally think the advantage in straight dragging is minimal.
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hmm yeah, cornering is important to me, i guess im just going to bite the bullet and get the cm30 and the H/E and LSD. Im guessing it should be around 11k installed. Anyone else able to tell me what they paid for this set up?
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We are doing a GB in another thread and hoping for about $1200 (not installed). Talk to your shop about install.
As I said, Brandon's HE is $700 retail, so I am hoping he gets in on the current wave of modders we have going.
CM30 is a fine pump. Ask the shop to wire it to run all of the time vs just when the ECU tells it to. The only advantage to the johnson is reliability (longer life), so why not use it?
As I said, Brandon's HE is $700 retail, so I am hoping he gets in on the current wave of modders we have going.
CM30 is a fine pump. Ask the shop to wire it to run all of the time vs just when the ECU tells it to. The only advantage to the johnson is reliability (longer life), so why not use it?
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I thought it had a higher flow rate, but i just assumed that, and we all know what happens when you assume. Ill prob just replace it now rather than doing it later anyway though. So im going to go with that front mount for cooling, along with the cm30, plus the other VRUS mods. What kind of gains should i be expecting?
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I'm assuming, too so let someone else tell us both about the flow. I hate to tell ya, but you are basically doing everything, EXCEPT an 80mm TB. Consider it, too.
Without that, I'd still say you should be adding about 100hp (overestimate) to the wheels, depending on the tune and headers. Cooling will be key to keeping the power consistent.
Without that, I'd still say you should be adding about 100hp (overestimate) to the wheels, depending on the tune and headers. Cooling will be key to keeping the power consistent.
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thats about what i figured to the wheels. I would get TB as well but i am already pushing my budget on mods for this vehicle at this moment in time. I would love to get the TB as well but i cant swing it, im still in college (turn 20 this friday), but depending on how buisness is and how soon you do the group buy on the TB i might be able to get in. I really appreciate the help as always, and i think i just need to have a more in depth with John about my car.
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With all due respect to John, a CM30 w/out a new HE won't do you much good (if any). Why not just let the OEM one burn out? You aren't adding cooling capacity or efficiency, so why?
I am getting the CM90. It is a pain to install and get right, but once in I am done worrying about cooling.
I am getting the CM90. It is a pain to install and get right, but once in I am done worrying about cooling.
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the tb is such a fantastic compliment to a pulley and headers that i'd do it long before the quaife. hell, i'd do the tb before the heat exchanger as well and i live in the friggin desert!
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Only reason i would get the LSD though is because on my daily commute i get on some very nice twisty back roads and i want to be able to get the most out of the car, so as long as the car is still enjoyable through the twisties without LSD ill most likely forgo it for the TB for now
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rahulanand1130,
When I saw my name listed on the thread subject I thought I was in some sort of trouble... LOL..
John @ Broadway is going to be our East Coast distributor & authorized installation center so he will take good care of you.
If you have any specific questions about the products you can ask Vadim or myself.
I believe part of your build is a cooling upgrade... I dont recommend anyone run the big pulley without the extra cooling.
When I saw my name listed on the thread subject I thought I was in some sort of trouble... LOL..
John @ Broadway is going to be our East Coast distributor & authorized installation center so he will take good care of you.
If you have any specific questions about the products you can ask Vadim or myself.
I believe part of your build is a cooling upgrade... I dont recommend anyone run the big pulley without the extra cooling.
