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Old 12-18-2007, 12:32 PM
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First E63 to share page one with the E55's

http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

Great job Rob!
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Nice Oldgixxer, you're putting the E63 on the map, and you're on your way to 11's
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It's hard to believe that the 63's have gone from a slow replacement for the 55's to almost match their best times. Boy we have come a long way in less than a year.

Great Job OLDgixxer. Now go get that eleven thats in your car!!!
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It's hard to believe that the 63's have gone from a slow replacement for the 55's to almost match their best times. Boy we have come a long way in less than a year.

Great Job OLDgixxer. Now go get that eleven thats in your car!!!
Our best times? You do know there are E55s in the 10s right?

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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Our best times? You do know there are E55s in the 10s right?

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The page juciee posted is a comparison page, "stock 55 for stock 63" and yes congrats to old gixxer
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Stock for Stock for now

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There is no way that someone can have a faster 63 than Mr. Juicee!!

























BTW, Congrats!!! great time and great trap speed.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Our best times? You do know there are E55s in the 10s right?

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Show us were remember stock
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Originally Posted by Bluemax
Show us were remember stock
Show me a stock E63 that has ran 11.7x?

My hats off to Oldgixxer and the other 63's that ran the record low numbers,but theres a reason they ran those numbers...great DA's and track prep.

The SAME reason the STOCK E55 ran in the 11's.
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Show me a stock E63 that has ran 11.7x?
LOL, Johnny is always hating on the 63

Johnny, he never said the E63 ran as fast as the fastest E55 has ever gone. All he said was that now the stock E63 results are a lot closer that they show up on the first page with the E55 stock times.

Remember, this was oldgixxer's first time while Enzom is the king of E55 drag racing. Also Enzom's car is not 100% stock. He is running Michellin PS2 and in slightly wider size. I call it 98% stock

I think with some practice and definately better tires (maybe Perellis or Michellin PS2), Oldgixxer should be able to run 11.9x and maybe even high 11.8s. This would put the E63 about 0.1 to 0.2 seconds slower than the E55 in 1/4 mile, which is exactly what AMG "officially" claimed in the AMGFEST06 And that is no where near the "E63 is a second-and-a-half slower than the E55" statement

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First off,thanks everyone!!,especially Josh for all his help&advice

Juicee63 will ALWAYS be King Of 63's as far as I'm(as many others agree I'm sure) concerned

Hardware's E55(stock as far as I know) ran a best that day of "12.006 at 116ish 1.79 60 ft time",so track prep was to his advantage,not the 63 which had a best short time of 1.84.
So that theory kinda goes out the window...

Enzom's E55 is phenomenally quick at 11.77&118mph,but 12.12@117 ain't that far from 12.00@116ish.

60' times dictate how hard the car launches&puts torque down to the tires to get the car moving off the line initially;but a higher terminal mph equates how much horsepower the engine is making once it's rolling;and picking up 25mph in the back half is pretty frickin good if you ask me
So the E55 hooked better on his best pass then my car hooked,but yet I still matched&bested(by a small margin) the E55's trap speed
So it's safe to say DA&track prep helped,but helped for ALL cars not just the 63's.


And I'm hoping with some new PS2's and 55 gallons of VHT on the concrete I should be good for an 11.99 this spring
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Originally Posted by juicee63
First E63 to share page one with the E55's

http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

Great job Rob!
When I ran the comparison on dragtimes.com, the E63 or the CLS63 don't appear until page 6. I guess you were talking stock E55 VS all E63's & CLS 63's?
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
When I ran the comparison on dragtimes.com, the E63 or the CLS63 don't appear until page 6. I guess you were talking stock E55 VS all E63's & CLS 63's?
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
You have to select only stock E55s vs E63s and CLS63s. Your selection is showing times for modded E55s as well. Juicee was talking about stock comparisons only, so no modded comparisons...................at least yet anyways
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Also Enzom's car is not 100% stock. He is running Michellin PS2 and in slightly wider size. I call it 98% stock
Amazing!
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
Amazing!
Common Johnny, you know that Contis are crap. Even Enzom would have a hard time breaking 11.9 on contis consistently.

Oldgixxer got 12.1 on contis with 1.85 60' time. With PS2, he can drop that 1.85 to maybe 1.75 at least. That 0.1 drop in the 60' time should hopefully translate to 0.2 off E.T. and put Oldgixxer's E63 in the high 11s
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Common Johnny, you know that Contis are crap. Even Enzom would have a hard time breaking 11.9 on contis consistently.

Oldgixxer got 12.1 on contis with 1.85 60' time. With PS2, he can drop that 1.85 to maybe 1.75 at least. That 0.1 drop in the 60' time should hopefully translate to 0.2 off E.T. and put Oldgixxer's E63 in the high 11s
The conti's are not that bad, the ps2's for some reason are over hyped on this forum.
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Common Johnny, you know that Contis are crap. Even Enzom would have a hard time breaking 11.9 on contis consistently.
No,I didnt know they were crap.

Guess his cars modded since he has different tires then?
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The conti's are not that bad, the ps2's for some reason are over hyped on this forum.
When I had my C32 (stage 2), I did some street testing using G-Tech Pro RR and I was able to cut my 0-60 mph time by 0.2 seconds just switching from Conti's to PS2. And yes, I used same device, same car, same driver, same street, and same weather conditions. Also, the traction of the tires (overall) felt much better and grippier on the launches.

However my conti's were sport contact 2 while the E63 comes with sport contact 3, which I'm not sure how better they are compared to the old ones
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
No,I didnt know they were crap.

Guess his cars modded since he has different tires then?
Nope, not what I said Johnny...........

I said it is 98% stock or 2% modded

Choose whichever makes you feel better

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Originally Posted by BlownV8
When I ran the comparison on dragtimes.com, the E63 or the CLS63 don't appear until page 6. I guess you were talking stock E55 VS all E63's & CLS 63's?
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

I see Oldgixxer on page #4 when using the link you posted??
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Nope, not what I said Johnny...........

I said it is 98% stock or 0.2% modded

Choose whichever makes you feel better
You can't even get your percentages correct.
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You can't even get your percentages correct.
LOL, got too excited, typing too fast........... system error !!!!

Fixed just for you
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
First off,thanks everyone!!,especially Josh for all his help&advice

Juicee63 will ALWAYS be King Of 63's as far as I'm(as many others agree I'm sure) concerned

Hardware's E55(stock as far as I know) ran a best that day of "12.006 at 116ish 1.79 60 ft time",so track prep was to his advantage,not the 63 which had a best short time of 1.84.
So that theory kinda goes out the window...

Enzom's E55 is phenomenally quick at 11.77&118mph,but 12.12@117 ain't that far from 12.00@116ish.

60' times dictate how hard the car launches&puts torque down to the tires to get the car moving off the line initially;but a higher terminal mph equates how much horsepower the engine is making once it's rolling;and picking up 25mph in the back half is pretty frickin good if you ask me
So the E55 hooked better on his best pass then my car hooked,but yet I still matched&bested(by a small margin) the E55's trap speed
So it's safe to say DA&track prep helped,but helped for ALL cars not just the 63's.


And I'm hoping with some new PS2's and 55 gallons of VHT on the concrete I should be good for an 11.99 this spring
This has been my experience as well. There are two E55 exceptions, ENZOM and Hammer Down, these E55's seem to pull last 1/8th really hard. I always seem to lose the 1/8th split to the 55, and usually do better back 1/8th. whats weird about your run is your 1/8th trap speed is superior to some of the 55 runs ahead of you on drag times. I think its 4th fastest. I think your car has more on the top , it may have short shifted.


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