Cost to certify a mercedes
01-24-2008, 10:18 PM
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My ex-cars: 03 E55,04 C32, 05 C55 ,03 E320
Cost to certify a mercedes
Hello guys..
I am about to trade in my E55 for a W220 S-class..
The dealer keeps on telling me it costs 6-7000$ to certify a car....
Does anyone know really how much it costs to "certify" a mercedes?
All that really matters is the extended warranty
I am about to trade in my E55 for a W220 S-class..
The dealer keeps on telling me it costs 6-7000$ to certify a car....
Does anyone know really how much it costs to "certify" a mercedes?
All that really matters is the extended warranty
01-24-2008, 10:41 PM
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It could cost that.. depending on the condition of the car before the process..
Warranty $2900 wholesale..
Tires replaced if needed (must be 9/32 + for CPO plan) $1200-1600 they charge a lot for their tires, mount and balance..
Alignment..
Brakes and rotors if needed up to $1200.
anything else (required services brought up to date) that makes the car in excellent shape.
Warranty $2900 wholesale..
Tires replaced if needed (must be 9/32 + for CPO plan) $1200-1600 they charge a lot for their tires, mount and balance..
Alignment..
Brakes and rotors if needed up to $1200.
anything else (required services brought up to date) that makes the car in excellent shape.
01-24-2008, 10:47 PM
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Cost To Certify A Car
In my experience, if the car will cost the dealership over $4k to certify, then the dealer either won't certify it (try to sell it as is) or won't take it in at all (or won't bid on it if it was in an auction). The dealer can generally get tires, brakes, service, etc.... dirt cheap at wholesale price. Of course, it will always vary from dealer to dealer and car to car, but in general, that $7k figure they quoted you is just super inflated. It is more like $3k to certify and $4k extra profit for them 
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01-24-2008, 11:30 PM
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You are being fed a pile of crap so steamy that it has mushrooms growing out of it...
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
01-25-2008, 12:29 PM
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My ex-cars: 03 E55,04 C32, 05 C55 ,03 E320
I agree with you CCW.
I always knew that these "certified preowned" titles were to add value to the cars and make people pay a premium for...
Oh well...I will be negotiating with the dealer tomorrow and hear more of their CPO stories
I always knew that these "certified preowned" titles were to add value to the cars and make people pay a premium for...
Oh well...I will be negotiating with the dealer tomorrow and hear more of their CPO stories
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01-25-2008, 12:36 PM
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I was fed into that story as well, to make it CPO they wanted 6-7K, 
for the CL65. he says 2500 for Warranty and the rest 4K is in tyres, brakes and detail. That must be one hell of a detail...
for the CL65. he says 2500 for Warranty and the rest 4K is in tyres, brakes and detail. That must be one hell of a detail...
01-25-2008, 08:07 PM
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You are being fed a pile of crap so steamy that it has mushrooms growing out of it...
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
They will not sell you tires for the price they get them for.. Its called profit you need it to stay in business..
A cpo car will repair a broken cupholder that doesn't really need to be replaced but they will do it. BTW, a rear seat cupholder can run $300 bucks. Also, the woodtrim that can be replaced due to cracks will cost big bucks.. Common items that can be overlooked but the CPO replaces them and gives you a warranty on those items in the future.. They replaced the complete centerconsole on my 760 that was CPO'd with 76k miles, the part cost $2900 bucks. It had 3 cracks in it..
The cpo costs big bucks but if your nit-picky its the only way to go.
01-25-2008, 08:49 PM
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1600 is for one year.. who the hell gets cpo for one year.. My price was for 3 years..
They will not sell you tires for the price they get them for.. Its called profit you need it to stay in business..
A cpo car will repair a broken cupholder that doesn't really need to be replaced but they will do it. BTW, a rear seat cupholder can run $300 bucks. Also, the woodtrim that can be replaced due to cracks will cost big bucks.. Common items that can be overlooked but the CPO replaces them and gives you a warranty on those items in the future.. They replaced the complete centerconsole on my 760 that was CPO'd with 76k miles, the part cost $2900 bucks. It had 3 cracks in it..
The cpo costs big bucks but if your nit-picky its the only way to go.
They will not sell you tires for the price they get them for.. Its called profit you need it to stay in business..
A cpo car will repair a broken cupholder that doesn't really need to be replaced but they will do it. BTW, a rear seat cupholder can run $300 bucks. Also, the woodtrim that can be replaced due to cracks will cost big bucks.. Common items that can be overlooked but the CPO replaces them and gives you a warranty on those items in the future.. They replaced the complete centerconsole on my 760 that was CPO'd with 76k miles, the part cost $2900 bucks. It had 3 cracks in it..
The cpo costs big bucks but if your nit-picky its the only way to go.
01-27-2008, 12:52 AM
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Once the car is CPO'd, you can obviously extend the warranty for an additional 1 or two years.
But that wasn't the point. Someone asked what it costs the dealer to CPO a car, and I answered that question. Basic CPO is $1600 + the items I mentioned.
As to selling tires at cost, I think both of you are missing the point. CPO program is $1600+ whatever extension you buy, so if the dealer is asking $7k over market and pointing to CPO as the "value-adder" then calculate out what you're paying for each of those tires...
I am not expecting tires at "cost", but I don't wana divide a $6k-$7k premium up over 4 brake rotors and 4 tires...what's that come down to? Almost $1k per tire and $1k per rotor?
Forget it.
But that wasn't the point. Someone asked what it costs the dealer to CPO a car, and I answered that question. Basic CPO is $1600 + the items I mentioned.
As to selling tires at cost, I think both of you are missing the point. CPO program is $1600+ whatever extension you buy, so if the dealer is asking $7k over market and pointing to CPO as the "value-adder" then calculate out what you're paying for each of those tires...
I am not expecting tires at "cost", but I don't wana divide a $6k-$7k premium up over 4 brake rotors and 4 tires...what's that come down to? Almost $1k per tire and $1k per rotor?
Forget it.
01-27-2008, 09:16 PM
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Ok. your right..
During your search for an E55, if you find a MB dealer that will sell you a E55 that is not CPo'd and they will Cpo if for you for $1600 (even if for one year) you let me know which dealer and I will buy my next MB from them..
In the real world I don't think it will ever happen.. they would be out of business.
During your search for an E55, if you find a MB dealer that will sell you a E55 that is not CPo'd and they will Cpo if for you for $1600 (even if for one year) you let me know which dealer and I will buy my next MB from them..
In the real world I don't think it will ever happen.. they would be out of business.
01-28-2008, 10:37 AM
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What the he!! are you talking about?
If you found a vehicle...any vehicle not just an E55...that is for sale at a mercedes lot and fits the CPO age/mileage criteria, and you say "I'll pay the $1600 as well as the cost for the tires/brakes", of course they'll CPO it for you.
Why wouldn't they? That's what it costs.
If you found a vehicle...any vehicle not just an E55...that is for sale at a mercedes lot and fits the CPO age/mileage criteria, and you say "I'll pay the $1600 as well as the cost for the tires/brakes", of course they'll CPO it for you.
Why wouldn't they? That's what it costs.
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You are being fed a pile of crap so steamy that it has mushrooms growing out of it...
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
Great information! I never really looked at the numbers but they do make sense now
01-28-2008, 10:30 PM
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Spoke to the dealer today and the salesman told me no delaer will CPO a car for 1600. Eventhough it is true it is ridiculous to pay all that money on tires and brakes. They say tyres and brakes will run me 4k+ the CPO fee will be around 2600 in change or more....just don't know how the dealer would do all this for 1600 bucks.
12-27-2013, 11:40 PM
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You are being fed a pile of crap so steamy that it has mushrooms growing out of it...
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
The fee that a dealer pays to MBCPO to enroll a car is exactly $1,600.00. To enroll a car, it can't have any major accident history or obvious cosmetic flaws, except minor scratches and rock chips.
In addition, the car has to have:
1: A full detail
2: Any service that is due within the next 5000 miles be performed prior to placing it for sale as CPO
3: A set of new OEM-spec tires put on
4: Brakes and rotors replaced if they're not within specs set by the CPO program
5: The CPO inspection. Sounds nice on paper, but I believe usually consists of a tech walking around it for 2 minutes, feeling the rotors to see how bad the lip is, looking at the tires, and making sure there are no obvious leaks.
So, do the math. For the average vehicle, it's $1600 enrollment fee + tires at dealer cost (figure $700) + brake pads and rotors at dealer cost (figure $600), plus a couple hours of labor (virtually free to dealer) + detail (virtually free to dealer).
The cost figures are straight from the sales associate at Brumos when I tried (and failed) to buy a CPO S55 from them a week or so ago.
That was the argument we got into, actually. They wanted $37,900 for the car, which only booked out at $32k or less for high retail. He wanted to act like the CPO program added all that value, and we got into a discussion about how much they really pay, and that's what I got.
12-28-2013, 12:10 AM
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
A few notes...
I should check these old posts first?!
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12-28-2013, 12:17 AM
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1. This is the e55 forum. If it's an E55 you want MB certified, then you are whistling Dixie. It's too old to be in the program.
2. You can't just take a car in and " have it cpo'd". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it is not supposed to.
3. No, it is not the same as your OE bumper to bumper warranty. Not all items are covered, and in my experience, claims are harder to get bought.
4. You very well may be better off with a quality aftermarket warranty, or if MB still sells them, one of their warranties. Again, if it's an E55 you're looking at, you're out of luck. Too old for them.
If it's another Benz product, I would post in that forum and see what experiences others have had. And just FYI, they can have paintwork, but it is not supposed to exceed two panels, I believe. Yeah right. Nothing beats your own due diligence. Hope this helps.
2. You can't just take a car in and " have it cpo'd". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it is not supposed to.
3. No, it is not the same as your OE bumper to bumper warranty. Not all items are covered, and in my experience, claims are harder to get bought.
4. You very well may be better off with a quality aftermarket warranty, or if MB still sells them, one of their warranties. Again, if it's an E55 you're looking at, you're out of luck. Too old for them.
If it's another Benz product, I would post in that forum and see what experiences others have had. And just FYI, they can have paintwork, but it is not supposed to exceed two panels, I believe. Yeah right. Nothing beats your own due diligence. Hope this helps.
01-09-2015, 09:56 PM
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I spoke with my dealer about a CL 65 that I am looking at to have as an additional car. It is still under factory warranty for 10 more months. I was quoted 500.00 to certify it. All maintance has been done at that dealer and the tire are 9/32 on the rear and 10/32 on the front. OEM tires. No defects at all and only has 8,500 miles. The car is BRAND new. Should I wait until the end of the factory warranty to buy the extended 3 years 100k miles now or wait?
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2012 E350
http://www.rocklandmotors.com/2012-M...1/Details.aspx
This seems like a good car! Why isn't this certified?
I have one 2012 e350 right now but want to get this one. Could I transfer my CPO to this one?
This seems like a good car! Why isn't this certified?
I have one 2012 e350 right now but want to get this one. Could I transfer my CPO to this one?
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Hello, I paid $5000 for an S 560 2018 certification
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