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Old 02-06-2008, 09:03 PM
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...........this is interesting. What is funny is that someone is going to come on this thread and ask that this thread be closed because it will take away sales from Eisenhaus USA. Glad again that consumers are learning about the not so wonderful vendors, tuners, distributors etc instead being constantly bombarded with pro-vendor propaganda.

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Well, let's start a list, who has bought an Eisenmann exhaust in the last year or so? I'd say someone owes you your money back.
I have, through a group buy
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
...........this is interesting. What is funny is that someone is going to come on this thread and ask that this thread be closed because it will take away sales from Eisenhaus USA. Glad again that consumers are learning about the not so wonderful vendors, tuners, distributors etc instead being constantly bombarded with pro-vendor propaganda.

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shoot...

I have purchased two set of muflers in the past 6 months. fisrt meisterchaft, was too loud for me, and the ive got sport version for the 335.
cant believe this!!!
i am sad...
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I had an Eisenmann Race on my CLK500. I bought it off Eisenhaus...

I thought the exhaust had an excellent tone. Fitment was just a bit off and it wound up melting the rear bumper a bit. The shop (AI Design) had to add a piece of piping to make it fit as well.

So yeah, besides that there was one other issue with my exhaust. I called Eisenhaus and asked them if the muffler would make a droning noise while cruising. He assured me that the point of getting such a high quality muffler is that it has no drone and sounds similiar to stock when cruising.

In reality, the thing droned so bad that it loosened up the bolts holding in the rear power sunshade and I would have to go to the dealer every month to get everything tightened up so the rattles would stop. I eventually got sick of it and sold it to another forum member. From there, I went to an electronic cutout "dump" exhaust with a switch. Better tone and an on and off switch

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The funniest part of this is that when I went to AI Design and told them I could buy an Eisenmann exhaust from a different vendor (Eurotek I think carried them), they said "Listen buddy, if you want to do this, do it right. You don't want to buy from a shady vendor and get a cheap knockoff. You want the real deal." And I ponied up the extra $ and bought it off Eisenhaus.
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You guys that have bought the products probably have a very nice suit against both the US distributor, and the parent German company to get your systems replaced, or damages, or both.... The parent is liable due to the trademark, and an authorized dealer representative...

I smell a class action suit...
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You guys that have bought the products probably have a very nice suit against both the US distributor, and the parent German company to get your systems replaced, or damages, or both.... The parent is liable due to the trademark, and an authorized dealer representative...

I smell a class action suit...
ITA

And I bet prolly 99% of what they sold was fake...Eisenhaus probably only ordered from Eisenmann whatever the minimum amount required was to maintain the distributorship, and then picked up the rest from their el-cheapo fake factory in Korea...

Everyone here who has one has probably got a fake. I would definitely sue.
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This really sucks if it's true. I bought my Eisenmann race from Neal. Does anyone know where he got his from?

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I am glad I awaited on buying right now. Lets see how this pans out
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I got mine from Neal as well, and it came from eisenhaus. My shipment was severely delayed because it was in a shipping container that got impounded. I was in contact with eisenhaus getting status on a weekly basis.
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I got mine from Neal as well, and it came from eisenhaus. My shipment was severely delayed because it was in a shipping container that got impounded. I was in contact with eisenhaus getting status on a weekly basis.
The container probably had some Korean refugees inside it.

Is anybody noticing what Eisenhaus is trying to do now? They're saying they're releasing a line of exhausts called Meisterschaft, which is probably just the Korean ripoffs of Eisenmann's stuff. Somebody want to be the guinea pig and call them out on it?

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how much is a eisenhaus for a e55 anyways? i sure dont mind buying one for my car.. exhaust is a exhaust, if it makes it louder, im happy.. anyone want to sell?
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
how much is a eisenhaus for a e55 anyways? i sure dont mind buying one for my car.. exhaust is a exhaust, if it makes it louder, im happy.. anyone want to sell?
Exhaust isn't exhaust...

If you buy thinking like that, you'll end up with a shoddily-welded, poorly fitting piece of crap built out of pot-metal, and it's guna melt your rear bumper and start rusting and leaking after a year or two...

Look at exhausts on ricers that are more than about 12-18 months old and see how they hold up. You don't want some fake thing with quality issues.
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whoa dude.. u just made it sound really scary.. ima just get cutouts then
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This really sucks if it's true. I bought my Eisenmann race from Neal. Does anyone know where he got his from?

We got them all from Eisenhaus. Although i am pretty sure you mean, you are wondering if yours is the real or fake version. I wish i knew the answer, but the details don't seem clear on this right now what was real and what was fake. Man this is just crazy! I still cannot believe this.
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We got them all from Eisenhaus. Although i am pretty sure you mean, you are wondering if yours is the real or fake version. I wish i knew the answer, but the details don't seem clear on this right now what was real and what was fake. Man this is just crazy! I still cannot believe this.
I wonder how they eventually found out, they must have a very strong proof to pull a move like this.
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I wonder how they eventually found out, they must have a very strong proof to pull a move like this.
When crap like this comes out, it's usually from an insider to the business that got screwed somehow and decided to blow the whistle...
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I just emailed this thread to my brother who spent 12k on a F1 Kreisieg Full System for his Ferrari and when I mean it didnt fit the Ferrari dealer had to put the car back together and it went to a race shop, a good portion of the downpipes had to get cut and remade and all Eisenhaus told my brother, Oh Sorry it must be because the Japanese version is different with the right hand drive layout but it had nothing to do at all it was made 100% wrong. He charged back the credit charge from the shop he got the system from and they ended up giving him a set of HRE rims for free when it was all settled.

There is a good chance it was a fake system but how can any of us know unless we had a team take the fake and the real cut them open and compare so its going to be hard.
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Here's the link to the "real" Eisenmann website:

http://eisenmann-sportauspuff.ov3.de...=Mercedes-Benz

They only show one version (part number) for the W211 E55 sedan, so it makes me wonder about the so-called "sport" and "race" versions some vendors were selling here in the USA.

There is also a sound clip; sounds pretty good.
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Originally Posted by BenzoManNY
I just emailed this thread to my brother who spent 12k on a F1 Kreisieg Full System for his Ferrari and when I mean it didnt fit the Ferrari dealer had to put the car back together and it went to a race shop, a good portion of the downpipes had to get cut and remade and all Eisenhaus told my brother, Oh Sorry it must be because the Japanese version is different with the right hand drive layout but it had nothing to do at all it was made 100% wrong. He charged back the credit charge from the shop he got the system from and they ended up giving him a set of HRE rims for free when it was all settled.

There is a good chance it was a fake system but how can any of us know unless we had a team take the fake and the real cut them open and compare so its going to be hard.
No offense but, after ALL OF THAT, I hope you don't really think there is ANY chance that it wasn't a complete fake...LOL

I mean, short of a bunch of Koreans jumping out of the crate when you opened it, what other warning signs would you need?
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I mean, short of a bunch of Koreans jumping out of the crate when you opened it, what other warning signs would you need?
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some pics on M5 forum...on how u can spot a fake:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=112297
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I was wondering why my eisenmann race exhaust on my supercharged CLK55 is quieter than my eisenmann race exhaust on my CLK430. I guess, now I know
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Wow, the soundclipof the "real" exhaust sounds soo much nicer than the clips ive seen around... How do we go about purchasing an authentic one??
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