E63 Vs E55
02-15-2008, 01:37 PM
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You guys complaining about the performance level is silly, this car trumps 99.99% of all sedans. The E55 and E63 are already at dangerous levels of power. The sedan is faster than most of 2 seaters? How many 4500 lbs cars do low 12s 1/4 miles?
This is like "yeah Im doin Halle Berry but I really want Sara Verone"
This is like "yeah Im doin Halle Berry but I really want Sara Verone"
02-15-2008, 01:45 PM
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Ok please tell me this E55 wasnt stock.
I ran him from 40-140 and lost by 1 and 1/2 cars. We were both in sport mode but i was in second gear and he just left it normal and when he stepped on the gas it downshifted itself. So because of that i put about a car on him but he started to pull hard after 100. So if he was in the right gear he should have pulled on me right away and put around 3 cars on me. What is going on?
Update with the video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ivqusxKjzWg
I ran him from 40-140 and lost by 1 and 1/2 cars. We were both in sport mode but i was in second gear and he just left it normal and when he stepped on the gas it downshifted itself. So because of that i put about a car on him but he started to pull hard after 100. So if he was in the right gear he should have pulled on me right away and put around 3 cars on me. What is going on?
Update with the video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ivqusxKjzWg
1.Never roll with traction control in the 63(if you need it, you should not be racing)
2.Never carry a passenger or EXTRA weight
3.Always leave prior to the third honk
4.Start in 2nd gear @4000 RPM
5.D/S but use the paddle to downshift(you did this but)....
enjoy your car and be safe. Get to a drag strip with your buddy and have someone else film or a stationary camera
02-15-2008, 02:38 PM
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You guys complaining about the performance level is silly, this car trumps 99.99% of all sedans. The E55 and E63 are already at dangerous levels of power. The sedan is faster than most of 2 seaters? How many 4500 lbs cars do low 12s 1/4 miles?
This is like "yeah Im doin Halle Berry but I really want Sara Verone"
This is like "yeah Im doin Halle Berry but I really want Sara Verone"
1) Corvette coming out with 650 hp ZR1
2) Caddilac CTS-V coming out with 550 hp compact sedan (supposed to be lighter than a C-Class and more power than E-Class).
3) Audi RS6 V10 Twin Turbo around 600 hp.
4) Rumors of BMW going TT V10 as well.
There are probably others, but it gets worse....... soon after these cars come out, with very simple mods, they'll be able to add 100 hp to each
We need a 600+ hp Twin Turbo V8 or V10 or at least a 650 N/A if they want to quit forced induction
02-15-2008, 03:05 PM
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E63 AMG 2010, Black, Pano, P2
Juicee, I know our cars really fast, but consider the following.....
1) Corvette coming out with 650 hp ZR1
2) Caddilac CTS-V coming out with 550 hp compact sedan (supposed to be lighter than a C-Class and more power than E-Class).
3) Audi RS6 V10 Twin Turbo around 600 hp.
4) Rumors of BMW going TT V10 as well.
There are probably others, but it gets worse....... soon after these cars come out, with very simple mods, they'll be able to add 100 hp to each
We need a 600+ hp Twin Turbo V8 or V10 or at least a 650 N/A if they want to quit forced induction
1) Corvette coming out with 650 hp ZR1
2) Caddilac CTS-V coming out with 550 hp compact sedan (supposed to be lighter than a C-Class and more power than E-Class).
3) Audi RS6 V10 Twin Turbo around 600 hp.
4) Rumors of BMW going TT V10 as well.
There are probably others, but it gets worse....... soon after these cars come out, with very simple mods, they'll be able to add 100 hp to each
We need a 600+ hp Twin Turbo V8 or V10 or at least a 650 N/A if they want to quit forced induction
I think car vendors will find themselves fighting an up hill battle from this point on. Those who find angles other then HP will most likely be the winners going forward. I dont know what it will be, but do you see yourself driving a 700HP E63TT or whatever? I dont. So we are approaching the ceiling fast.
I might be wrong though.
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02-15-2008, 03:14 PM
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It all sounds good, but what is the point of so much power? Power is nothing without control. I beleive the HP war is over. Performance gains will be marginal at best and the added cost, complexity and realiability issues may not even worth it.
I think car vendors will find themselves fighting an up hill battle from this point on. Those who find angles other then HP will most likely be the winners going forward. I dont know what it will be, but do you see yourself driving a 700HP E63TT or whatever? I dont. So we are approaching the ceiling fast.
I might be wrong though.
I think car vendors will find themselves fighting an up hill battle from this point on. Those who find angles other then HP will most likely be the winners going forward. I dont know what it will be, but do you see yourself driving a 700HP E63TT or whatever? I dont. So we are approaching the ceiling fast.
I might be wrong though.
The problem is half the time these rockets are getting in the hands of idiots and they're killing themselves and others.
02-15-2008, 03:29 PM
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I think you have somewhat of a point, but the major lynchpin supporting your argument would be traction, not necessarily durability of parts because as you can see, there are a lot of E55's on this board making enough torque to tear the Statue of Liberty from its perch and they're not exploding. Most RWD cars become pretty squirrely when you get above 500hp, hell my car is almost gutless at low RPM and I can still do a burnout with the best of them. Rubber is the major issue here, speed and power are manageable in the right hands.
The problem is half the time these rockets are getting in the hands of idiots and they're killing themselves and others.
The problem is half the time these rockets are getting in the hands of idiots and they're killing themselves and others.
I am just saying that the days of significant HP gains are numbered.
If you beleive in peak oil, we may find our cars being pretty much obsolete in the next 15 to 20 years and the current internal combustion engine on the verge of extinction.
