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Old 03-10-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
The King is here!
Absolutely AWESOME day today!!!!
Don't even know where to begin....
Well,I wish I had a camera to snap a pic of Chris'(05Venom)face when he came to the tower7saw he ran a 12.16,it was priceless!Seeing how excited he was set the tone for the day guys...
Lorenzo arrived dapper as ever,quite dashing I must say
Pleasure meeting Chris,Mike&seeing Jim as well as some of the Bimmer guys like Multiowner who is one of the most consistent drivers I'ver ever seen w/out electronics go down a track.Even though traction went south he still drove the sh*it outta that M5!! Bonehead's M5 sounds amazing,and the 10sec C6 vette threw down some insane times(1.48 60' on d/r's!)

Special thanx to my immediate crew of consisting of Anthony D(who will be driving a CLK B.S. soon,and yes,YachtMaster you can beat on it if you like!)and Wyheem and a thanx to my support crew via Verizon on the West Coast Josh&Mo,and CylinderHead for starting this thread.And everyone else who txt me w a congrats!

Lemme go grab my slips&throw some numbers at ya....brb
Don't mind having the second fastest E63 if your number one...guys ,Rob is a class guy and so are both his buds..Anthony D and Wyheem. Like they said exciting day...will have to meet up at E-town this season.....MigE55, I will let enzom exlpain what happened to him today
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Absolutely I N C R E D I B L E times Rob !!!!

You are truely the king of 63 now

How did the M5 guys run?
For the most part, not as well as you guys.
Dinan S3 led the way with an 11.7x (dunno the 60' or trap)
multiowner ran 11.992 @ 117.83 with a 1.815 60'.
Mine was kinda disappointing at a 12.09, 121.51, 2.099 60'. My first time out on the strip and I had 20" wheels (those are my excuses and I'm stickin' to them).

Everyone had a tough time hooking as the day went on. Track was prepped and sticky, though. Guess the tires started to turn to goo.
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Enzom, where are you???? I was so excited about a match up with you and Oldgixxer, but heard about your wheel troubles. Sorry you didn't get to run much today, but I'm sure you'll take it all out in your next rental

By the way, when is the next ATCO rental? Next week?
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For the most part, not as well as you guys.
Dinan S3 led the way with an 11.7x (dunno the 60' or trap)
multiowner ran 11.992 @ 117.83 with a 1.815 60'.
Mine was kinda disappointing at a 12.09, 121.51, 2.099 60'. My first time out on the strip and I had 20" wheels (those are my excuses and I'm stickin' to them).

Everyone had a tough time hooking as the day went on. Track was prepped and sticky, though. Guess the tires started to turn to goo.
Actually 20" wheels WILL slow your times by at least 0.1 seconds. So you definately would've hit the 11s as well

Great runs, can you post some of the BMW slips as well for analysis
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another theory as to why the track "went bad": Sounds as if the track was prepped well and started off super sticky. Street tires literally scrub the traction compound off of the track. Sometimes a track must be re-sprayed multiple times during a days session to keep it consistent.
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enzom, how were the vibrations on your ride home?
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Ok,dont have time to scan em all,so I'll post the best from the a.m.&some hilights from the afternoon as well.
1st pass out the gate:
60'-1.86(ESP off)
330-5.202
1/8-7.89@91.73mph
1000'-10.205
12.15@116.2

2nd(ESP off)
60'-1.809
1/8-92.40
1000'-10.08
12.01@117.57

3rd(ESP off)
60'-1.83
1/8-7.806@92.45
1000'-10.100
12.031&117.47mph

4th (record run,ESP off)
60'-1.830
330'-5.109
1/8-7.756@92.96mph
1000'-10.034
11.952@118.32mph

bunch of 12.05-06's@117.2+mph
40th pass
60'-2.050(traction control engaged but still spun bad)
330'-5.385
1/8-8.042@92.73
12.23@118.53(highest trap of day)

Enzom had problems cuz Tirerack.com didn't send the required hubcentric spacers to fit the wheels properly;he experienced sever vibration on the back half of the track&had to hit the brakes a few times.

I feel if he would have been able to run the D/Rs he would have easily gone 11.5x@119-120mph.I also feel my 63 is an 11.80 car in these conditions on D/R's.
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Hey, guys. We had a great event today. Weather was almost perfect, and the track was pretty sticky.

I was not able to run today, unfortunately. Because I was running without centering rings on my new wheels (thanks, Tire Rack), I had a horrific vibration above 85 mph. Very scary stuff. I completed maybe four runs all day (aborted 5 or 6 others at the 1/8th). I found one of my time slips in the box of slips with an 11.922 @ 118.05, but it felt like I was running with a flat tire. Bittersweet.

But it gave me time to watch the action. . The 63's were awesome, as were some tuned 55's running 11.5's and 11.6's. The M's sounded scary. There is no sneaking up on someone in those cars.

I think that the street tires just got too gooey in the afternoon. The track was still so sticky that your shoes stuck to the groove, but the cars on street rubber were still spinning.

It turned out to be great fun for lots of guys. I only wish I could have joined in the fray.
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Originally Posted by 05VENOM
enzom, how were the vibrations on your ride home?
Even worse, Chris. Anything above 80 had my teeth chattering. The only good thing is that it kept me from trying "arrest me now" speeds. Couldn't get them off my car fast enough.

Thanks for asking.
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another theory as to why the track "went bad": Sounds as if the track was prepped well and started off super sticky. Street tires literally scrub the traction compound off of the track. Sometimes a track must be re-sprayed multiple times during a days session to keep it consistent.

Yes,100% correct.Like somebody mentioned they need to heat&scrub the track which they didn't after the rubber started gumballing up.After they resprayed 1 side the D/R guys could hook but that also went away quickly.Multiowner rips off 1.80 60' times all day and he was having trouble gettin 1.9's in the p.m.
BMW guys hets MUCH LOVE from OG,I love your M's and they absolutely haul azz up top: AJCUT was rippin 120+mph traps,Interlagos Blue M6(clutch problems) sounded like he had a rear end cuz it whined on the back half&he was trapping 120+mph even w crappy launches.E39 Dinan was banging 11.7s w a slipping clutch,Boneheads car set off house alarms.75mi away(the police actually showed up,lol)as he almost hit the wallYor car HAULS AZZ man;sorry I didn't introduce myself,next time I will

No bad mouthing any M cars here,they are top notch runners
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Actually 20" wheels WILL slow your times by at least 0.1 seconds. So you definately would've hit the 11s as well

Great runs, can you post some of the BMW slips as well for analysis
Well, that's what I get for being lazy and not putting on my stock 19's.
Obviously don't have any of the other guys' slips. Mine:

R/T .300
60' 2.099
330 5.388
1/8 7.990
mph 94.86
1000 10.229
1/4 12.094
mph 121.51
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Well, that's what I get for being lazy and not putting on my stock 19's.
Obviously don't have any of the other guys' slips. Mine:

R/T .300
60' 2.099
330 5.388
1/8 7.990
mph 94.86
1000 10.229
1/4 12.094
mph 121.51
that is the highest 1/8th mile trap of the day

Is your car stock?
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
Yes,100% correct.Like somebody mentioned they need to heat&scrub the track which they didn't after the rubber started gumballing up.After they resprayed 1 side the D/R guys could hook but that also went away quickly.Multiowner rips off 1.80 60' times all day and he was having trouble gettin 1.9's in the p.m.
BMW guys hets MUCH LOVE from OG,I love your M's and they absolutely haul azz up top: AJCUT was rippin 120+mph traps,Interlagos Blue M6(clutch problems) sounded like he had a rear end cuz it whined on the back half&he was trapping 120+mph even w crappy launches.E39 Dinan was banging 11.7s w a slipping clutch,Boneheads car set off house alarms.75mi away(the police actually showed up,lol)as he almost hit the wallYor car HAULS AZZ man;sorry I didn't introduce myself,next time I will

No bad mouthing any M cars here,they are top notch runners
Oldgixxer, you gotta teach me how to launch like that

Very IMPRESSIVE 60' times my friend
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Enzom,the track was great today.I made my best pass today 11.54@119.7 and hope to go faster when i install my 80mm trottle body next week.Thanks for a good day.
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
another theory as to why the track "went bad": Sounds as if the track was prepped well and started off super sticky. Street tires literally scrub the traction compound off of the track. Sometimes a track must be re-sprayed multiple times during a days session to keep it consistent.
+1. If you guys had 2 lanes you should have kept the street tire cars to one lane.

Congrats to the nice runs!!! Were there any stock M5's running?
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Great Day had by all. Some very fast E63's And E55's. Thanks to Enzom for hosting.
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Originally Posted by e55 1921
Enzom,the track was great today.I made my best pass today 11.54@119.7 and hope to go faster when i install my 80mm trottle body next week.Thanks for a good day.
I saw your pass&said 11.5x before you trapped & everybody said "Nahh,no way" BAM!!! 11.54 Congrats bud, Awsesome driving skills

That other,uhh Flint grey "E63" that you were with had some amazing #'s as well
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
Yes,100% correct.Like somebody mentioned they need to heat&scrub the track which they didn't after the rubber started gumballing up.After they resprayed 1 side the D/R guys could hook but that also went away quickly.Multiowner rips off 1.80 60' times all day and he was having trouble gettin 1.9's in the p.m.
BMW guys hets MUCH LOVE from OG,I love your M's and they absolutely haul azz up top: AJCUT was rippin 120+mph traps,Interlagos Blue M6(clutch problems) sounded like he had a rear end cuz it whined on the back half&he was trapping 120+mph even w crappy launches.E39 Dinan was banging 11.7s w a slipping clutch,Boneheads car set off house alarms.75mi away(the police actually showed up,lol)as he almost hit the wallYor car HAULS AZZ man;sorry I didn't introduce myself,next time I will

No bad mouthing any M cars here,they are top notch runners
do you have the P30 package on your 63?

so far P30 cars are very impressive...

if you don't have a P30 package... I want to know who built your engine !
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Enzom,the track was great today.I made my best pass today 11.54@119.7 and hope to go faster when i install my 80mm trottle body next week.Thanks for a good day.
what are your mods?

pulley /ecu / headers?
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+1. If you guys had 2 lanes you should have kept the street tire cars to one lane.

Congrats to the nice runs!!! Were there any stock M5's running?
I don't disagree, but . . .

The track was resprayed at about 1:00. We tried to keep the street tired cars in the left lane, but it was tough. Some guys didn't get the message, and it is hard to blame people for wanting to make some head to head runs.

We only had 3 cars (excluding myself) running on DR's, so it is hard to tell 12 guys that they can only use one lane while the right one stays empty. I have been to vette rentals where the split is the reverse, and then the street tire guys complain that the surface isn't getting enough action to stay warm for the launch. Can't win.
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Enzom,the track was great today.I made my best pass today 11.54@119.7 and hope to go faster when i install my 80mm trottle body next week.Thanks for a good day.

You are very welcome. I am glad that you made the trip down. Your car impressed, for sure.
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Originally Posted by enzom
Hey, guys. We had a great event today. Weather was almost perfect, and the track was pretty sticky.

I was not able to run today, unfortunately. Because I was running without centering rings on my new wheels (thanks, Tire Rack), I had a horrific vibration above 85 mph. Very scary stuff. I completed maybe four runs all day (aborted 5 or 6 others at the 1/8th). I found one of my time slips in the box of slips with an 11.922 @ 118.05, but it felt like I was running with a flat tire. Bittersweet.

But it gave me time to watch the action. . The 63's were awesome, as were some tuned 55's running 11.5's and 11.6's. The M's sounded scary. There is no sneaking up on someone in those cars.

I think that the street tires just got too gooey in the afternoon. The track was still so sticky that your shoes stuck to the groove, but the cars on street rubber were still spinning.

It turned out to be great fun for lots of guys. I only wish I could have joined in the fray.
Enzom,

COuld you or anyone else familiar with this problem be more specific with your issue today concerning "centering rings". I want to make sure I avoid the same problem with my new rims and tires. Was your problem with the rims? What should we be looking for.

Thanks
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Killer times... to bad i couldnt make it... Congrats OldGixxer!!!! BADDDD
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