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Old 05-28-2008, 05:46 PM
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I bet if someone post his picture on one the local college forums, someone would know him. I bet he's still in college studying to be an insurance salesman like his dad. I would like to know if that is indeed him in those pictures. With all the lies he tells he could be lying about who he really is.
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Originally Posted by Eurosport
how come Jonathan's myspace is back up?
i thought he took it down

also wtf in his pics description, says: "This camera ruined my life for the next month or so."

one of his face pix description: "This photo caused too much trouble."

was this there yesterday???
Link to Turner's MySpace please.
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Originally Posted by JCruz23
Even if he doesn't work there, I find it VERY surprising that there are NO Jonathan's, Billy's, Smith's, OR Turner's. I worked in a couple different Best Buy's for a period of a little over 3 years, and find this statistic hard to believe. Those are all fairly common names.

I wonder if the staff is just getting fed up with our calls, or if he has someone on the inside (like, whoever answers the phone) helping him hide.

This would be a crime too, right? A much smaller crime, but still.
I don't think the operator was covering up.. I called different departments too... all in a span of every few minutes. Best thing to do of course is for someone who lives near the Brockton BB to just go and verify...
Old 05-28-2008, 05:50 PM
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hiya, found this thread from m3forum. i got through about 13 pages ... great job in ID'ing and tracking this punk down.
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I say someone go over to that Best Buy and casually walk around noticing the name tags of the guys that work there....dont ask around to any of the employees, just observe

**Acura-Legend.com checking in too btw...**

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Old 05-28-2008, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by davidmbowser@gm
I had an idea where if you post in the classifieds, you have a "vouch" button on your posting. Other respected members can click the button and "vouch" for you as a credible seller/buyer/human being. The more Vouches an item gets, the more confidence you can have in buying/selling the item. If nobody is willing to vouch...its over Johnny.
Why not send his info to someplace like Troll Hunters. http://www.trollhunters.com/

They are generally dedicated to outing trolls in the tech trading community, but I suspect they would be fine having a reference point to this guy.
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Good news! Just got an email from Google Checkout telling me that a full refund is being issued! The refund can take up to three business days to appear on my Amex account. I am not certain whether google checkout forced the refund through or whether the scammer issued the refund as I have contacted both parties today with the help of Timeless.

I am very happy. I thank you all for your efforts! I will let you know when the refund officially appears on my account.

Order Details - May 11, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
Google Order #4385.....
BMW OEM 335i 189 Style Wheels/Tires $1,250.00
Tax (CA) : $0.00
Total : $1,250.00
May 28 Refund : -$1,250.00
Total charged: $0.00
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Originally Posted by robbyt18
Good news! Just got an email from Google Checkout telling me that a full refund is being issued! The refund can take up to three business days to appear on my Amex account. I am not certain whether google checkout forced the refund through or whether the scammer issued the refund as I have contacted both parties today with the help of Timeless.

I am very happy. I thank you all for your efforts! I will let you know when the refund officially appears on my account.

Order Details - May 11, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
Google Order #4385.....
BMW OEM 335i 189 Style Wheels/Tires $1,250.00
Tax (CA) : $0.00
Total : $1,250.00
May 28 Refund : -$1,250.00
Total charged: $0.00
That's great news man!
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Originally Posted by robbyt18
Good news! Just got an email from Google Checkout telling me that a full refund is being issued! The refund can take up to three business days to appear on my Amex account. I am not certain whether google checkout forced the refund through or whether the scammer issued the refund as I have contacted both parties today with the help of Timeless.

I am very happy. I thank you all for your efforts! I will let you know when the refund officially appears on my account.

Order Details - May 11, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
Google Order #4385.....
BMW OEM 335i 189 Style Wheels/Tires $1,250.00
Tax (CA) : $0.00
Total : $1,250.00
May 28 Refund : -$1,250.00
Total charged: $0.00
That's great ! Glad you got your money back.
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Originally Posted by Gondon
I agree with the earlier posts abou making a sticky about buying and selling...

Timeless/Teolax what the hell are you thinking sending $2200 dollars to someone who signed up to the forum a few hrs ago and make a random post selling E63 Wheels...??

You guys are lucky you got your $$ back...

Mods make a buying and selling guide.
If you read my posts at the beginning of this thread I had alrady acknowledged that I was stupid for not listening to my gut. There were many, many signs that the guy was a scam, but I was honestly seduced by the under market price of the wheels. Thanks for reminding me that I'm an idiot...
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well looking at Jonathan's page, one of the pix is this
his description says: "Photo of my bedroom in summertime"




now look at earlier surveillance photo


what makes sense to me is that bedroom might be in that house, look at the 2 front windows lower level of the house. both have green bushes about same height you see in the bedroom pic. (specially the one behind the blue car, to the right of the front door as you look at it) the curtains look closely to be same style. other thing you notice is the window frame of the bedroom pic sure does look mighty close in demensions to the house pic. look at the thickness of the window frame (thin in this case).

i don't know, but Jonathan could live there too?

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Wow. Just read though this and to echo everyone else, nice job on the PI skills. Btw NASIOC checking in
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Originally Posted by robbyt18
Good news! Just got an email from Google Checkout telling me that a full refund is being issued! The refund can take up to three business days to appear on my Amex account. I am not certain whether google checkout forced the refund through or whether the scammer issued the refund as I have contacted both parties today with the help of Timeless.

I am very happy. I thank you all for your efforts! I will let you know when the refund officially appears on my account.

Order Details - May 11, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
Google Order #4385.....
BMW OEM 335i 189 Style Wheels/Tires $1,250.00
Tax (CA) : $0.00
Total : $1,250.00
May 28 Refund : -$1,250.00
Total charged: $0.00
Congrats
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Originally Posted by Timeless
If Jonathan wants to give you a phone number, I'll call and vouch whether or not it is the voice of the scammer. Am sure Teolax would do the same.
No doubt. He has a very distinct voice.
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Originally Posted by Eurosport
well looking at Jonathan's page...
Post the link please.
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Originally Posted by erdoran
They have that on ebay--it's called "feedback rating"
Actually, it's nothing like the ebay feedback rating, but thanks for the "feedback"
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Originally Posted by Timeless
As was stated before, we used credit cards via Google checkout. That gave me a level of comfort because of being able to dispute the charge if the wheels never showed up. I would NEVER have done this if I had to give the cretin my CC info directly.
Exactly. If he had asked for a cashiers check or money order I was out of there.
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Originally Posted by thebenzbar
Post the link please.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=60714186
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Checking in from LX and Charger forums. Man this is great stuff. I started reading page 1 last night and caught up today. Yeah I know I could have just read the Cliff Notes but, that would not do justice to the piece by piece puzzle work done here and by others. I hope he gets nailed soon.
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ok guys, the leads are starting to come to a trickle...

it's turning to be a lot of whoring now.

I think we're going to lock the thread for now and then gradually make some posts with developments.

if you have a lead or development please pm me, e1000 or 55fanatic and we'll update it or open it so you can post.

thanks!
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http://www.ireport.com/index.jspa

there we are on the iReport front page #2 most newsworthy...CNN homepage here we come!

quit slacking and get over there view, rate and comment:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-27340
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
ok guys, the leads are starting to come to a trickle...

it's turning to be a lot of whoring now.

I think we're going to lock the thread for now and then gradually make some posts with developments.

if you have a lead or development please pm me, e1000 or 55fanatic and we'll update it or open it so you can post.

thanks!
Good idea
to much to read I need to get to work hahah
But please keep us updated!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by davidmbowser@gm
http://www.ireport.com/index.jspa

there we are on the iReport front page #2 most newsworthy...CNN homepage here we come!

quit slacking and get over there view, rate and comment:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-27340
I'm going to crap an egg if we make the CNN homepage.
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Originally Posted by 55fanatic
Hey all, I just woke up and was like three pages back... For those people reading and watching from Massachusetts...

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT Visit his address

As we get the information sorted out, we will try and be there when he is arrested. We don't want to stalk him or his family, giving them ammunition to press charges against us, this trash isnt worth it. When the time comes I will ask a few people offline to join me, if we are given the oppurtunity.

Second... Can we keep whoring to a minimum... If you would like to *****, please take it to our whoring thread...
Originally Posted by e1000
All noobies (yes, this means you), please read before posting.

CLICK ME


I don't want to do this guys, but the leads are coming to a trickle.

It's turning into whoring right now and that really isn't helping much.

The thread will be locked shortly, but we'll probably re-open it later.

If there are any leads, please pm myself (nlpamg), Eric (e1000), Pete (55fanatic), and Andy (amdeutsch), and we'll make sure it gets in.

If there are any developments, we will be SURE to update you all.

Thanks for all your help!

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Greetings from the Fastlane forum ...

http://www.thefastlanetomillions.com...ad.php?p=44652

Excellent work!! It only took me 5 hours to read!

Is there a DIGG link somewhere?

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