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Old 10-02-2008 | 05:41 PM
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Anyone silly enough to drive up from the southeast?
Maybe no one?

What's the weather like this time of the year? We're used to 70-80 degrees in November in Atlanta. I'm considering driving up and am shopping around for a co-driver. I might talk my dad into it - he used to wrench and test drive for his cousins '62 Corvette (super gas, I think) and would probably love to make a pass or two.

Depending on $$$, I may get a tune before then.
Old 10-02-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
Maybe no one?

What's the weather like this time of the year? We're used to 70-80 degrees in November in Atlanta. I'm considering driving up and am shopping around for a co-driver. I might talk my dad into it - he used to wrench and test drive for his cousins '62 Corvette (super gas, I think) and would probably love to make a pass or two.

Depending on $$$, I may get a tune before then.
High is in the low 70's high 60's right now

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Old 10-02-2008 | 07:32 PM
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Sup Marko!!
Juicee63 isnt bringing his own car (wuss) Im down to make it fun but definitely wont be the fastest, Ill go as far to make my predictions for you out of that list if youd like
What up Jay!! I agree, Stephen will take it for sure. I'll still give it a shot though. You never know, I might get lucky!!!
Old 10-02-2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MHP
I'll pony up for that, even though there's no question I'll get beat down by a 600/65.
You know, for how much talk Andy has in him, I feel there is just as much, if not more, ***** behind it. This is exactly the attitude we need more of!!!!
Old 10-02-2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Are you going to spray the **** out your car Marko? I'll pay the $25 just to see that. I would never win
I would if it was a shootout and I happen to make it to the finals.....
Old 10-02-2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
I would if it was a shootout and I happen to make it to the finals.....
Just how fast does your car go...and no, this is not a challenge, I'm just curious. I'm not messing with any tt65's, unless you are spotting me some lengths
Old 10-02-2008 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Just how fast does your car go...and no, this is not a challenge, I'm just curious. I'm not messing with any tt65's, unless you are spotting me some lengths
Haven't taken it to the track yet so I don't know. I don't think this car can afford to spot out any lengths....never have any traction and it runs much slower as soon as it reaches operating temperature. I don't think they make thermalnators for it. I can spot you 3 lengths but you have to let me leave first. How does that sound? No nitrous on my car and probably won't be this year.

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Old 10-03-2008 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
High is in the low 70's high 60's right now
Honest, no offense but I can read today's weather report. I'm asking about mid-November.

EDIT: This is what I'm getting at. 44 degrees average is a bit chilly to stand around in the parking lot shooting the **** all day.

http://www.accuweather.com/us/md/mar...ric=0&month=11

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Old 10-03-2008 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
I'd be in for sure if there was some sort of elimination type ladder or direct competition format. I love hanging out and making passes and all, but to drive all the way there to just make passes seems less stimulating to me. How about an extra $25 per person as an option to run in the "shootout" and go from there? Even if 4 people enter, that's a full tank of good gas to the winner. Who would be in?...A few people I can think of that would enter and engage in a contest....

JAYCL600
jrcart
ChicagoX
Stephen04
TMC M5
blackbenzz
juicee63
Andy@MHP


Anyone else?
Post if you'd be up for a little competition.....first annual "Mercedes Benz North America Shootout"........Remember, the faster car doesn't always win. There will be traction issues and reaction times to consider.
A party aint a party till JT is in.
And i'm in - money sent.

Ahh Tuning Tech - a little less posting and little more wrenching whaddya say big guy?
Old 10-03-2008 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
Honest, no offense but I can read today's weather report. I'm asking about mid-November.

EDIT: This is what I'm getting at. 44 degrees average is a bit chilly to stand around in the parking lot shooting the **** all day.

http://www.accuweather.com/us/md/mar...ric=0&month=11
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Old 10-03-2008 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Just how fast does your car go...and no, this is not a challenge, I'm just curious. I'm not messing with any tt65's, unless you are spotting me some lengths
Wow....that is a far cry from the smack you were talking back in the spring... as I recall you wanted to go out and look for some 65's to "terrorize"... and that was when you had half the mods you are going to have by the time MIR rolls around. Believe me...I am not trying to start anything....I think we have gotten past all that....but I am just wondering where the newfound respect for the 65's is coming from???

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Originally Posted by gravedgr
Honest, no offense but I can read today's weather report. I'm asking about mid-November.

EDIT: This is what I'm getting at. 44 degrees average is a bit chilly to stand around in the parking lot shooting the **** all day.

http://www.accuweather.com/us/md/mar...ric=0&month=11
Unfortunately I'm not very good at predicting the future. According to your post a high of 54 is pretty good for drag racing. Negative DA!

And for all you guys that wanted to race a C6 Z06 heads up and think you're faster, Jamie Furman will be in attendance

1) Blackbenzz/Ahmad - CLK55 Kleemann MD
2) JayCl600/Jason - CL600 MD
3) MHP/Andy - C63 and JGC SRT8 OH?
5) jmf003/John - SL55 VRP MI
6) Stephen04E55/Stephen - Da Beast S600 (reigning champ) VA
7) MachC5/James - CLK63 Black Series NY
8) Rarfinancial/Rick - Renntech CLS63 CA
9) Dasrok8/George - C6TT IL
10) Mthis/Hagi - C63 NY
11) 05Venom/Chris - E63 NY
12) jrcart/Jim - Evosport CLK63 BS IL
13) Chicagox/Wayne - LET E55 IL
14) JT55/JT - CLK63 BS NY
Old 10-03-2008 | 09:19 AM
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I am going to get a set of sticky tires for this event.

Should I get BFG-DRs, Mickey Thompson's, Toyo R888 or RA-1's?
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
I am going to get a set of sticky tires for this event.

Should I get BFG-DRs, Mickey Thompson's, Toyo R888 or RA-1's?
Considering I've used all those tires in the past I think I can tell you which ones are the stickiest. MT ET Street Radial > BFG D/R > R888 > RA1

My best 60's on each of those tires:

MT - Haven't tried yet and will be on 16's so it isnt a fair comparison
BFG - 1.66
R888 - consistent low 1.7x
RA1 - also consistent low 1.7x

What size wheel are these going on? 18's I'm assuming. If you decide that you want to go with R888's and want to save a little money I have a pair of 275's that I put about 250 miles on and had to take them off because they were rubbing. I also have a pair of lightweight discontinued Koseis (~18lbs) with 245/40/18 BFG d/rs I need to sell as well (Cut 1.67 60' on these). You could switch the tires out for something wider like a MT ET Street Radial 265/40/18. That was my original plan but decided to order 16's

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Old 10-03-2008 | 09:47 AM
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those are some fast 60-foots. When I was stock I did a 1.84 on BFGs and hope to see high 1.6's. How did Derek ever get a low 1.6x on the RA-1s?

I have 4 - 18 inch Kosei's with 9 inch rims which should support 265 or 275s. I might be interested in your R888s. So you think MT's over BFGs.

Do you have a link to the MTs? What tire pressure do you go with 18-22lbs? thanks.
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
those are some fast 60-foots. When I was stock I did a 1.84 on BFGs and hope to see high 1.6's. How did Derek ever get a low 1.6x on the RA-1s?

I have 4 - 18 inch Kosei's with 9 inch rims which should support 265 or 275s. I might be interested in your R888s. So you think MT's over BFGs.

Do you have a link to the MTs? What tire pressure do you go with 18-22lbs? thanks.
I dunno how Derrick did it. I'm sure he made alot more torque than I do and there is always the driver! I would go MT's over BFG's even though the BFG's aren't bad at all. Ask Jason, he has cut 1.5x 60's on a 265/40/18 BFG (that size is discontinued but MT makes that size). I ran 18 PSI in the BFG's and they hooked, I never went lower than that. And that was only on a 245 wide tire. If you come to the rental in October and I haven't sold them yet, you can throw my 18's with BFG d/rs on your car and see how you like em. I can even bring the 275 R888's mounted on my kinesis wheels too (if I have space, a CLK can only fit so much lol)

Here is a link to the tires http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...ETStreetRadial

As for tire pressure, I got this off their website:

Inflation Pressures


On the racetrack DO NOT use starting pressures below 11 psi.
Recommend pressures for:

P295 and larger sizes: 11-14 psi
P275 and smaller sizes: 12-16 psi



On the highway we recommend running 75% of the max psi as notes on the sidewall of the tire.

Burnouts


The tread compound used in the ET Street Radials is designed to heat quickly and does not require a heavy burnout. Continue the burnout at a level RPM until the engine starts to pull down. We do not recommend a dry hop after the burnout.

Bead/Wheel Slippage


Some bead/wheel slippage (1/2” or less) may result during the course of a 1/4 mile (or 1/8 mile) drag race. This is normal. Check for tire slippage when you check your tire pressure after each pass.

Excessive Rim Slip


If continued or excessive (more than ½” to 1”per run) wheel/slip is experienced, Mickey Thompson recommends the use of “Beadlock” wheels for ET Street Radials. Bead screws are not recommended and could lead to tire failure and or damage.

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Old 10-03-2008 | 10:10 AM
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I have run both Pirelli Corsas (road race tire) and Mickey Thompson Street E/T's. My best 60' with the Corsas was a 1.78 and my best on the MT's was a 1.69. I am running 17" MT's, I could not go 16" due to rear brake clearences. The Corsas perform much better than I thought they would and they are very consistant, one night I liad down 3 1.80's that were all with 5/1000th's of one another on a different occasion I laid down 5 1.80's that were all within 19/1000th's, you can't get much more consistant than that. I feel I have not yet "learned the MT's nor reached their full potential, everyone I talk to says I should be closer to a 1.60 on MT's.

I run the Corsas at 21 pounds and the MT's everywhere from 15-19 PSI, like I said still learning and experimenting. I'm running out of time so I better figure then out soon.
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Ahmad, where you the one that showed me that all CF wheel a few weeks back? I am trying to find some info on those wheels. I want to run a set of those up front 18x8's, if they make them with the skinniest tires possible as part of my drag set up along with the MT's.

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Originally Posted by jrcart
Ahmad, where you the one that showed me that all CF wheel a few weeks back? I am trying to find some info on those wheels. I want to run a set of those up front 18x8's, if they make them with the skinniest tires possible as part of my drag set up along with the MT's.

Thanks
Yea that was me. Weds Sport you damn baller! I was gonna go slicks and skinnies but I pussed out.

The weight is in kg so roughly ~6lbs


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Thanks for allowing me to live through you guys on this. Meet sounds like it's gonna be a blast.

Just an idea. Wonder if there are any locals that could possibly bring down a nice jack or 2 and a torque wrench. Gotta feeling there will be a lot of tire swapping going on between brothers.

I bet JR will have it covered but just in case.
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
I am going to get a set of sticky tires for this event.

Should I get BFG-DRs, Mickey Thompson's, Toyo R888 or RA-1's?
BFG-DRs or Mickey Thompson's ONLY with as much tq as you have
Old 10-03-2008 | 10:34 AM
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Ahmad,

I see two tires on this link and the top ones look like DRs that you would be referring to but don't have the 18 inch.

Will the bottom ones hook 1.6x's also? The tread looks very different. thanks.
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
Ahmad,

I see two tires on this link and the top ones look like DRs that you would be referring to but don't have the 18 inch.

Will the bottom ones hook 1.6x's also? The tread looks very different. thanks.
Since you are running 18's you have no choice. The top tire (ET Street) is a bias ply tire so you would need a bias ply tire up front as well. You should be able to hook 1.6's with the ET Street Radials, thats what I'm getting since I didnt go with the skinnies up front.
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Thanks for allowing me to live through you guys on this. Meet sounds like it's gonna be a blast.

Just an idea. Wonder if there are any locals that could possibly bring down a nice jack or 2 and a torque wrench. Gotta feeling there will be a lot of tire swapping going on between brothers.

I bet JR will have it covered but just in case.
I should have all the tools anyone is going to need. I'll have a couple generators, compressor, floor jacks, ramps, jack stands, torque wrenches, impact guns, my rig is pretty well equiped, if I did not mention something you guys might need let me know I will throw it in...I might even be bringing a couple strippers


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