sound 8

This sort of race needs to be done at least 5 or 6 times to be accurate.
Did you know when they test cars the 0-60 times are done up to a dozen times to get the best result, often resulting in a burned out clutch.on manual.
Anyway it looks to me that both bm's got the jump on the AMG. And with
F1 when your in the lead you usually stay there,it takes colossal horse power to catch. Run this again more fairly.

enzom

I guess jcart's point is that we have to take him (and others with really exceptional bone stock times) at his word that his car really is "stock". Some people talk about cars being "stock" and then you find out that they had a tune, which you can never tell from looking under the hood, pulled their filters or did something else that you can't easily tell. It happens too often. You just have to hope that the person telling you his car is stock is really being truthful. Some people get a rise out of bs'ing people. Never understood why.

It doesn't take much skill to drive one of our cars. Good track prep, and my mother can cut 1.7's. The Z06 is much harder to launch than many cars. The great drivers can cut 1.6's on stock tires, the not so good are lucky to crack 2.0's. You can hear a great driver ripping off shifts with no tire squeal on clutch takeup vs. the guys that lose precious tenths with wheel spin on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Takes LOTS of practice and skill to run low 11's/high 10's in a C6 Z06. Having said that, I still have to trust people to be honest when they tell me that their cars are stock.

There are probably 25 people on this board right now that can hop into my car at Atco in November and run low 11.8's.

tjav8b

Anyone know if there is an German car shootout held annually? It would probably clear up alot of annoying threads on both boards. For the record, the video is BS!

JAYCL600

im working on it

bigben320e

Interesting vid's Abalone. Totally opposite of the OP video, now how is that possible?

On the OP video nothing is clear as in was that actually an AMG? Let's say all the cars were legit, blah blah blah. The AMG had about 2 seconds of no movement and the M's were already out the gate. Fair race? Not.

ChicagoX

When the WORLD RECORD M5 can't lay down track times comparable to a STG 2 E55, there's something a bit fishy.

ChicagoX

That sound like an offer, to me.

NickyBlack

I have both cars. Love them both but they aren't the same.
Obvioulsy from the start the AMG didn't have a good launch and even seemed a bit delayed. Straight line benz hands down. Everything else i'll take the M5. The benz feels very floaty at high speeds compared to the glued to the road feel of the m5. M5 is the better car in performance. AMG is the car you take on a date.

sound 8

Don't BM's have Launch?
It is difficult to do a good standing start with auto box with an E55.
However all these races seem to happen over a convenient piece of straight
road, this is drag racing and does not remotely compare with racing another
super car on a twisty road with roundabouts . I think the AMG's should win
in a stright drag, but on different roads I am not so sure.

stevebez

I dont understand the furore, all these cars are fast and picking the winner is like picking who has the biggest ....

If the videos are staged good luck to them. I dont really care. If not, kudos to the M's still damn nice cars.

Bottom line is I know both cars are quick...

On different days and circumstances one will beat the other... and next day it will be other way round....

So thats how circular this pi$$ing contest becomes. So lets let it be shall we?

Scraz51

+1 Lol so true.

MB_Forever

If you watch the video again, you'll notice that the alleged E63 in that video could NOT even catch the M3, which is 180 hp less than the E63. Yeah....... something ain't right with that video

patrickabraham

Hi Guys .

I was the driver of the E55 AMG and it had a E63 body kit costing 15.000$ .

This was an airport strip we went there to try the cars . Both cars M3 and M5 were heavily modded while the E55 is Stock.

This was the first run , so i was trying to see what will be launching without ESP on . While both M5 and M3 was using Launch Control , M5 was modded with headers and M3 with Ecu and camshafts. So one person noticed in the forum that the wheel in front of the E55 was not spinning fast cause there was a hell of a wheel spin at the back when launching . When this was over , The M3 owner was marketing all the other cars owner that he Beat the E55 , so i ask him to run 4 Times again the race . The 4 times I was in front of him 7 cars, all the times i was Using ESP on and M mode and was shifting at 5500 RPM .

As for the M5 i did the race also , i was jumping in front of him 1 car and later at speed of 160 km/h he was passing me slowly .

Don't forget the M5 is modded with 535 HP .

Thanks in advance

Max.H

Way to show them who the boss is

Zod

Just lovely....editing results to show the best parts of them wining only..no surprise

Glad you posted...maybe it will help some of the ''OMG this vid on you tube proves everything '' crowd.....

patrickabraham

Hi again,

This is only to make things clear .

On the other hand the BMWs they did the max tuning they had and they were humiliated half the way .

Now it is my TURN ti tune the car , i am on the process to do it woth www.vrptuning.com the E55 will jump from 476HP to 640 HP and i am installing AMG LSD differential , all this will cost around 18=20.000$ .


And later we will race again , and to be honest from now the BMW owners are shaking when they knew about the tuning . In other terms they are ****ting in their pants .

There is another Video showing me and M5 and M6 .

We tried this race while we were going to the airport M6 was filming and we roll at 50 km/h and we kick gas , reminding again M5 is heavely tunned while the M6 is tuned even More .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m4Zz0_3Ol8

Thanks in advance

Harsany

This is so gay. My last car was a e46 M3. There is no way the E55 would be that far behind. I raced my buddy in his E55 when I still had my M3....I got smoked everytime.

Any e46 M3 dudes that want to run with my E55...come and get some!

patrickabraham

hi,

Seems you don't wanna read the above posts , i repeat i disengage the ESP just for fun and did a hell of wheel spin . After that i did 4 race same minute after we finish it and i was in front of the tunned M3 by 7 cars .

So please don't repeat the same CD again and again .

And for your Info they were 10 M3s there in the airport i dust them all .

Only ones was M5 pulling hard beyond 200km/h i am limited to 250 , and the M6 was pulling fast after 140 km/h heavely tuned .

And this picture when u run ESP off .

Max.H

"who is the king!?" Great video.

sound 8

How do you know the guy in the 55 is trying.

ALL these amateur vid's are BS>

borand

Here is a fresh video of stock E55 W211 vs stock M5 E60 from M5board.com . The E55 really powers away in the beginning and as usual the M5 catches up in the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iB6rYLiiI0&NR=1

enzom

E55 shifts into 4th (around 130 mph) and it can't sustain the pace. When we go to the strip, the E55 goes through the traps at the top of 3rd. I would not know where you wind up on the tach after a redline shift from 3rd to 4th, but it isn't close enough to the powerband.

Timeless

So, why no videos of this?

patrickabraham

Well finally guys i was waiting someone ask me this . It is the same Grey tuned M3 that pulled in front of me with ESP off now that ESP was on check below.

here is the humiliating video .

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvUjv...eature=related

Enjoy it

Timeless

Thanks! That video makes a whole lot more sense.

Whichever M3 was the video taker truly got smoked...like he mis-shifted.