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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Problems already on my 09 E63...

The car is now starting to shutter in reverse every once in a while. Anyone else have this problem?? It does not do it all the time. It can't be normal.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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no..mines never done that. make sure you can repeat the issue before taking it back to the stealer. Cause you will have to prove whats going on before they will fix it
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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cross member bolts...maybe??? i guess it depends on what you mean by shutter.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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well, if you are rolling backwards and then put it in drive the car shutters badly like it is hopping or something. It's weird because it only does it like 1 out of 50 back ups. I tried resetting the tranny computer so we will see if that works. It seems like a computer issue considering it doesn't do it all the time.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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boy it's a shame. It's now doing it every other time I back the car out of the garage. It is so bad now that the tranny locks when backing out and putting it in drive. The car dies instantly. 750 miles on this thing and it's falling apart. Sucks.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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WOW....Nothing like that has happened to me (knock on wood). The only thing I've had fixed was an adjustment and lubrication of a squeaky pano roof.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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Will do. I'm going to demand a loaner car. I will post up what is broken once they repair it. I searched on this site and could not find one other post that even remotely related to this. Goes to figure I end up with the 1 in a million problem. I have always had bad luck with cars. I used to own a 06 Trailblazer SS that the tranny blew up at 15K. This was just totally unexpected for how much this car costs and how few miles it has on it.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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when backing up you should come to a complete stop before putting it into D or a forward gear. never while rolling backward throw it into drive without stopping...anycar might shutter a little when under these conditions.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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I've been driving many cars and have never seen one shudder like this. The problem I have with this is it shudders so badly that the engine dies. Trust me this is not normal. I'm not talking about driving the thing in reverse at high speed and then slaming it into drive. I'm talking about backing out of your garage at 1mph and putting it in drive. Every one of my other cars does not have a problem doing this. If this one can't do this simple task for 100K then it is going back and I want my money back.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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with 14 posts and the amount of complaints you have...maybe you should just return the car and save yourself the headaches....
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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I have thought about that. I will be taking it to the dealer tomorrow. If this thing doesn't get straightened out the way I want, the car will be going back. This is just very frustrating. Plus, the dealer is an hour away. Makes things even that much worse.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr33kn63
when backing up you should come to a complete stop before putting it into D or a forward gear. never while rolling backward throw it into drive without stopping...anycar might shutter a little when under these conditions.
+1

you cant throw a car into gear from a roll in reverse...
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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I guess you can't on mercedes. It's interesting that the 50 other cars I have owned in my lifetime have never had a problem with this. Also, it is interesting how mine does it only some of the time. Give me a break. This thing should be able to handle pulling out of your garage and being put in first on the role without making terrible noise, bouncing and then the engine dies.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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I guess you can't on mercedes. It's interesting that the 50 other cars I have owned in my lifetime have never had a problem with this. .
Are you sure
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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I guess you can't on mercedes. It's interesting that the 50 other cars I have owned in my lifetime have never had a problem with this. Also, it is interesting how mine does it only some of the time. Give me a break. This thing should be able to handle pulling out of your garage and being put in first on the role without making terrible noise, bouncing and then the engine dies.
how many miles have you got on this yet? Are you even past your break in period? I would recommend being very gentle with it through its break in period. Once a couple thousand into the car there might be a little more tolerance with the way it acts but until the car learns your style of driving it may not act the way you want. I would be willing to bet in the owners manual for this car and probably every car they recommend coming to a complete stop before shifting from R to D. Really its common sense to do so since I cant imagine it is good for the tranny to do something like that while rolling. Especially during the break in period.
I am all for if your not happy with the car return it before its too late. Cause if you have less then 1k miles on it and have a list of complaints you should just get out of it now and find something else.
As far as your steering pulling thing goes, make sure you are on a totally flat road before saying its out of wack, cause these cars tend to feel a lot of the road and if your tires are in the wheel groove on the road it might pull one way or the other making you think your alignment is out when its not.. Find a really flat surface and see if it still does it.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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I agree come to a complet stop before you put it into drive. You just asking to hurt stuff the way you are doing it
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Well Mercedes is going to take care of me. They are going to pick the car up Monday and leave a loaner. The Service manager said this is 100% not normally. He said these cars should be able to handle up to 5mph in reverse going to drive at any time in their lifetime. I'm sure I will fall back in love with the car once it is fixed. You guys would be pissed too.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Your SA probably is clueless. I know the information I've received off this board has been far more useful than anything the SA knows. Anyway, I've always been known to throw it into drive on the roll as my driveway backs out onto a busy street so I don't have much time to mess around. But, I noticed right away my 55 didn't like that at all. Seriously, the car wasn't liking it. So, I made the adjustment and just come to a full stop and then hammer it. The car is driving great. After your ride is fixed, I would make this adjustment if I were you to prevent it from happening again.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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OK...my E55 does not like it if I pause briefly in the transition shift into R from D. It will hesitate for yes an annoying moment before grudgingly engaging.

It wants a complete stop before it will provide instant response.

that's the way it is.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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People who shift into from reverse to drive without letting the car come to a stop are begging for problems. I don't care if the car can "handle" it, down the road the wear and tear will add up.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Well, I have decided to come to a stop and live with it. I can't stand the thought of the dealer doing anything to the car. It's all good.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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Well, I have decided to come to a stop and live with it. I can't stand the thought of the dealer doing anything to the car. It's all good.
Have the dealer flush the trany incase anything broke off and floating around in there. If metal shavings get caught because of the flush, at least the trany would likely break while under warranty.

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Trust me this is not normal.
"normal" is relative. The more refined of a car you get the more temperamental it will be. If you want an AMG to drive like a truck, then you may have bought the wrong car. The 63 already has stalling issues at low RPM. By adding the load of reversing and then hitting drive without giving it gas, you are asking the car to either rev to stay alive or shut down. It chooses to shut down because MB does not want to have a surge in a driveway.

If this one can't do this simple task for 100K then it is going back and I want my money back.
Personally, I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket just to roll from the driveway, but hey. These cars are electrically controlled. As / if you get used to it, you will learn little tricks (like blipping the accelerator before shifts) to personalize the ride. Be patient and look for real defects...
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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I hear ya. I guess I'm just used to beating on all of my American cars. This Merc is something special. I'm a very impatient go getter so I'm not used to treating a car like a lady lol. I'm going to have to get used to that and slow down a little and think with this Merc.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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I hear ya. I guess I'm just used to beating on all of my American cars. This Merc is something special. I'm a very impatient go getter so I'm not used to treating a car like a lady lol. I'm going to have to get used to that and slow down a little and think with this Merc.
Be patient and enjoy the car. You'll soon learn about all of the sweet things that a merc can be. To be honest, I do the same thing you do but I have a TQier car with a sloppier tranny and only 5 gears so maybe that is why. The higher compression 63 with the 7g tranny is just a different animal. None of the 7g cars like the little drop from reverse straight into drive. Again, it is nothing but an electrical work flow so it actually is "normal".
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