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Old 12-09-2008, 03:23 PM
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STICKY 19" TIRES

Who makes the best 19"tires for a19" rim?I am currently running PS2'S right now,but its like running on glass.....does anyone knows of a stickier tire in 19"?
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PS2 is like running on glass? I have never heard anyone that does not like the traction on PS2.

I think the BF KDW are pretty sticky.
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PS2 is like running on glass? I have never heard anyone that does not like the traction on PS2.

I think the BF KDW are pretty sticky.
Ah, I am one, and have posted it MANY times.

"Friends don't let friends buy Michelins"

See yeah

Try Bridgestone 050 PP's, Goodyear GS-D3, heck even Yok ES1000's I thoguht were better. Did I mention ALL are way cheaper to boot
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i have 19" PS2s and they were not to bad. i was able to cut a 1.9 60" on them at the track. now that it got cold here, the ps2 do not grip well since they are summer tires.

keep in mind that with a 19" tire you are loosing sidewall, and the lower profile you go the stiffer the sidewall will get. the stiffer the sidewall the worse launching will be, but overall handling will be tighter.
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Originally Posted by psuball1
PS2 is like running on glass? I have never heard anyone that does not like the traction on PS2.

I think the BF KDW are pretty sticky.
Try launching 558ftlb tq at the wheels,and see how much traction PS'S have.
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Originally Posted by jamusa
Try launching 558ftlb tq at the wheels,and see how much traction PS'S have.
I use toyos R888's....they are R compound, once heated up it's over..lol!
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i have 19" PS2s and they were not to bad. i was able to cut a 1.9 60" on them at the track. now that it got cold here, the ps2 do not grip well since they are summer tires.

keep in mind that with a 19" tire you are loosing sidewall, and the lower profile you go the stiffer the sidewall will get. the stiffer the sidewall the worse launching will be, but overall handling will be tighter.
I am suffering the same faith as you are.I was just wandering if there was any other 19" tire out there other than PS'2...Some people say that Toyo R1 is better than PS2.
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Originally Posted by jamusa
Try launching 558ftlb tq at the wheels,and see how much traction PS'S have.
I am in that same playing field with TQ but the traction is not that bad. I really don't see how we can keep it to the ground without going really wide like a 305 or bigger.

I do agree that the PS2's are expensive so I plan on trying the Bridgestone RE-01 R next. Anyone have any feedback on them?
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Originally Posted by jamusa
I am suffering the same faith as you are.I was just wandering if there was any other 19" tire out there other than PS'2...Some people say that Toyo R1 is better than PS2.
i think i am going to try a 285 wide instead of 275 next time and do either the Toyo T1R or the Nitto Invo.
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Vredestein's Hook Up nice.....
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+1 on the Vredsteins. I've had mine for a month and love them. I've made about 20 passes on them at the track and they hook up great. With bad track prep I still pull consistent 1.90's.
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none of these tires are gonna let you hook up. But if you want something sticker I really liked the Michelin Pilot Sport CUPS. (R compound tires)

The BFG R1 R-compound I think were even sticker but they have extremely square sidewalls. They were also noticably noisier than the Michelin PSCs. The BFGs also wore incredibly fast ... but with a 40 treadware, who can complain.
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Originally Posted by psuball1
PS2 is like running on glass? I have never heard anyone that does not like the traction on PS2.

I think the BF KDW are pretty sticky.


I am rolling with 18 inch Mickey Thompsons all winter (on days when its dry out).

My PS2s are worthless...
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i've consistently run 1.71 60ft times on toyo t1r 285/30/19's...and yes, this is their street tire, NOT their "r" compound! obviously, track prep has a lot to do with those times but i don't think any other street tires are going to get you any better launch than that.
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The way it looks,i might have to go to 18"wheels and tire to get the car to hook up...I am in the process of doing some modification that is even gonna raise my tq figures even higher.I can easily go back to my factory rims,and i would be ok,but i want the car to look good with some aftermarket rims,and also fly.
For those of you who have used the following tires,how do you rate them by order of 1,2 and 3. 1 being the best,and so forth.
Vredsteins,Michilin Pilot Sport Cup R Compound,BFG R1 R Compound ,Michilin PSC.
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Originally Posted by jamusa
The way it looks,i might have to go to 18"wheels and tire to get the car to hook up...I am in the process of doing some modification that is even gonna raise my tq figures even higher.I can easily go back to my factory rims,and i would be ok,but i want the car to look good with some aftermarket rims,and also fly.
For those of you who have used the following tires,how do you rate them by order of 1,2 and 3. 1 being the best,and so forth.
Vredsteins,Michilin Pilot Sport Cup R Compound,BFG R1 R Compound ,Michilin PSC.
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I am currently running Vredsteins 285 25 R20 and they seem to hook up nicely. Good traction, good treadwear and quiet. I think these are better then PS2's and T1R's by far. Not to mention this is the same company that makes our spare tire
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Originally Posted by jamusa
The way it looks,i might have to go to 18"wheels and tire to get the car to hook up...I am in the process of doing some modification that is even gonna raise my tq figures even higher.I can easily go back to my factory rims,and i would be ok,but i want the car to look good with some aftermarket rims,and also fly.
For those of you who have used the following tires,how do you rate them by order of 1,2 and 3. 1 being the best,and so forth.
Vredsteins,Michilin Pilot Sport Cup R Compound,BFG R1 R Compound ,Michilin PSC.
I can't comment on Vredsteins ... I have never used them.

1. MPSC
2. BFG R1
3. MPS

I really liked the sports cups because they actually do quite well in wet weather as well. ( i was very surprised at this)

I still have a few other R compounds to try and also a drag radial or two.
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Originally Posted by jamusa
The way it looks,i might have to go to 18"wheels and tire to get the car to hook up...I am in the process of doing some modification that is even gonna raise my tq figures even higher.I can easily go back to my factory rims,and i would be ok,but i want the car to look good with some aftermarket rims,and also fly.
For those of you who have used the following tires,how do you rate them by order of 1,2 and 3. 1 being the best,and so forth.
Vredsteins,Michilin Pilot Sport Cup R Compound,BFG R1 R Compound ,Michilin PSC.
If you want to hook I would go to the 18" or even smaller. I might sell my staggered 18" Kinesis wheels that are forged and light with PS2's in the front and Toyo R888's in the rear (r comp sticky tire). I can tell you the 16" CCW with mickey thompson et street radial hooks reallyyy well when warm .

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