80mm TB on IAT
#1
80mm TB on IAT
A question on above. I am currently running a 178mm with ECU tune. IAT goes up as usual. I read that for many after fitting a 80mm TB, the boost acutally drops, so does that translate back to reduced IAT ? If so , how many degree did it drop.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#2
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the equation to calculate Supercharger exit temp is:
Tout = Tin + (Tin x [-1+(Pout/Pin)0.263]/SCeff)
where
Tin=Ambient temp in F + 460
Pin=Preassure pre Sc + 14.7
Pout=Preasure out the supercharger + 14.7
Pout/Pin=pressure Ratio
So for a stock E55 on 75 DEGREE day we get
Tin=75F + 460=535
Pin= -0.5psi +14.7 (guess)=14.2
Pout= 10.5psi + 14.7 (peak psi per MAP sensor)=25.2
Pout/Pin=1.77
Tout=198 degrees F
So if a stock car had NO IC....it would see Inlet temps of 198F on a 75 degree day.
usually a stock car will be under 130F .......so, we can assume the intercooler in the car removed 68F of heat....so it has an efficiancy of 55%.
Now on a pulley"d car......same 75F day...the peak boost may reach 14psi. That works out to a supercharger outlet temp of ~225F!! Thats almost 30 degrees more.
Using the same IC eff of 55%........that means a stock car that maxed at 130F inlet temp will now consistanly go over 144 Degrees F!!!!
If you could theoretically drop Boost preasure by 2 psi peak....you would get 207F SC outlet temps and ~135F AIT's
This is in theory---Holding several variables constant.
IC efficancy on a E55 will tend to go DOWN as Inlet temps go up.....as the ic cannot remove enough temp.
hope this helps...
Tout = Tin + (Tin x [-1+(Pout/Pin)0.263]/SCeff)
where
Tin=Ambient temp in F + 460
Pin=Preassure pre Sc + 14.7
Pout=Preasure out the supercharger + 14.7
Pout/Pin=pressure Ratio
So for a stock E55 on 75 DEGREE day we get
Tin=75F + 460=535
Pin= -0.5psi +14.7 (guess)=14.2
Pout= 10.5psi + 14.7 (peak psi per MAP sensor)=25.2
Pout/Pin=1.77
Tout=198 degrees F
So if a stock car had NO IC....it would see Inlet temps of 198F on a 75 degree day.
usually a stock car will be under 130F .......so, we can assume the intercooler in the car removed 68F of heat....so it has an efficiancy of 55%.
Now on a pulley"d car......same 75F day...the peak boost may reach 14psi. That works out to a supercharger outlet temp of ~225F!! Thats almost 30 degrees more.
Using the same IC eff of 55%........that means a stock car that maxed at 130F inlet temp will now consistanly go over 144 Degrees F!!!!
If you could theoretically drop Boost preasure by 2 psi peak....you would get 207F SC outlet temps and ~135F AIT's
This is in theory---Holding several variables constant.
IC efficancy on a E55 will tend to go DOWN as Inlet temps go up.....as the ic cannot remove enough temp.
hope this helps...
#4
Member
I never sat down to do the math.....but after doing it....its so clear how absolutely terrible the stock IC on the E55 is......55%?? Wow, thats BAD!!The efficiency of an average air/water IC should be usually between 75%-95%. If our stock cooler was even 75% efficient---we'd never go over 115F AITs
I guess thats why we need SLR coolers.
I guess thats why we need SLR coolers.