jrcart TAKES THE CLK RECORD!! 11.04@128.8
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The 55k is super charged it should not be referred as "all motor" since it is FI. All motor means , no SC, no turbo, no nos.
The 63 is N/A and the quickest all motor pass belongs to Jrcart. I believe him since the all motor pass has a low ET and low trap consistant with a car not spraying.
The quickest non nitrous pass belongs to Chriomikey in his E55. 11.24 and it was amazing. jims 129.8 trap also amazing, as was the 11.0x times.
Jrcart spraying was the fastest Benz at the event by 2-3mph.
Sal has the fastest SL 55 in the USA and it had the best non nos trap speed which bested all the E55 traps.
There is plenty of room, finally the West had a good event and achieved some great record passes, lets not take anything away from the participants, jrcart and chris had the two fastest N/A passes. Chris hit 11.4 and was also around 120-121 so thats would have been a great race.
The 63 is N/A and the quickest all motor pass belongs to Jrcart. I believe him since the all motor pass has a low ET and low trap consistant with a car not spraying.
The quickest non nitrous pass belongs to Chriomikey in his E55. 11.24 and it was amazing. jims 129.8 trap also amazing, as was the 11.0x times.
Jrcart spraying was the fastest Benz at the event by 2-3mph.
Sal has the fastest SL 55 in the USA and it had the best non nos trap speed which bested all the E55 traps.
There is plenty of room, finally the West had a good event and achieved some great record passes, lets not take anything away from the participants, jrcart and chris had the two fastest N/A passes. Chris hit 11.4 and was also around 120-121 so thats would have been a great race.
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The 55k is super charged it should not be referred as "all motor" since it is FI. All motor means , no SC, no turbo, no nos.
The 63 is N/A and the quickest all motor pass belongs to Jrcart. I believe him since the all motor pass has a low ET and low trap consistant with a car not spraying.
The quickest non nitrous pass belongs to Chriomikey in his E55. 11.24 and it was amazing. jims 129.8 trap also amazing, as was the 11.0x times.
Jrcart spraying was the fastest Benz at the event by 2-3mph.
Sal has the fastest SL 55 in the USA and it had the best non nos trap speed which bested all the E55 traps.
There is plenty of room, finally the West had a good event and achieved some great record passes, lets not take anything away from the participants, jrcart and chris had the two fastest N/A passes. Chris hit 11.4 and was also around 120-121 so thats would have been a great race.
The 63 is N/A and the quickest all motor pass belongs to Jrcart. I believe him since the all motor pass has a low ET and low trap consistant with a car not spraying.
The quickest non nitrous pass belongs to Chriomikey in his E55. 11.24 and it was amazing. jims 129.8 trap also amazing, as was the 11.0x times.
Jrcart spraying was the fastest Benz at the event by 2-3mph.
Sal has the fastest SL 55 in the USA and it had the best non nos trap speed which bested all the E55 traps.
There is plenty of room, finally the West had a good event and achieved some great record passes, lets not take anything away from the participants, jrcart and chris had the two fastest N/A passes. Chris hit 11.4 and was also around 120-121 so thats would have been a great race.
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Jim's car is definitely in the 10s as is..... please remember that he ran a few 11.0 in a DA of close to +1900 ft and temps around 72 F. Had this been at MIR where the DA was -2000 ft and temps were around 40 F, he would've been at least in the 10.80s. Yes, a 4000 ft difference and 30 degrees cooler will make a noticeable difference even on a car with NOS.
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Jim's car is definitely in the 10s as is..... please remember that he ran a few 11.0 in a DA of close to +1900 ft and temps around 72 F. Had this been at MIR where the DA was -2000 ft and temps were around 40 F, he would've been at least in the 10.80s. Yes, a 4000 ft difference and 30 degrees cooler will make a noticeable difference even on a car with NOS.
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One thing you are overlooking... HE WAS AT MIR. Are we gonna have to hear coulda woulda shouldas again? The car ran what it ran, end of story. No IF he had a 100mph tail wind he would have gone 10.40's He ran a very good time, take it for what it is and lets not get distracted with excuses. He will have another chance at MIR, I hope he sprays the whole 150 shot because I wanna know what it can do. Everyone knows the car is no slouch
What I am saying, however, is that if he runs his car in it's exact same state as it ran yesterday, then we can reasonably expect his run of 11.04 at 72 F and a DA of +1900 ft to easily correct down to high 10s in a -2000 ft environment and 40 F temps in one of the best prepped tracks in the world 
Would you say that this prediction is too wishful or un-imaginable? I personally don't think it is that much far fetched at all.....
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You are 100% correct Jrcarts car was slower (all motor) than at least 2 other FI (supercharged) E55s, I see how you look at it. The original poster said >>"I believe he bested every 55 out there today on motor only"<< and this was not the case. I posted in response to his generalization to E55. Not taking anything away from anybody here. No foul, pretty much everybody knows the E55 is supercharged.
11.24 from Mikey and 11.27 from SAL first time Id ever seen E55's run that quick ,
I also had never seen a 63 go sub 11.7 so rar hitting 11.6 and 11.9(non nos) and Jrcarts 129 trap were pretty spectacular moments for me./ My best moment was taking some oatmeal cookies from the HMS guys , LOL
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One thing you are overlooking... HE WAS AT MIR. Are we gonna have to hear coulda woulda shouldas again? The car ran what it ran, end of story. No IF he had a 100mph tail wind he would have gone 10.40's He ran a very good time, take it for what it is and lets not get distracted with excuses. He will have another chance at MIR, I hope he sprays the whole 150 shot because I wanna know what it can do. Everyone knows the car is no slouch
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One thing you are overlooking... HE WAS AT MIR. Are we gonna have to hear coulda woulda shouldas again? The car ran what it ran, end of story. No IF he had a 100mph tail wind he would have gone 10.40's He ran a very good time, take it for what it is and lets not get distracted with excuses. He will have another chance at MIR, I hope he sprays the whole 150 shot because I wanna know what it can do. Everyone knows the car is no slouch
Ahmad, lets be honest ,
you beat him at MIR
He beat your best ET and trap in 70 degree weather.
Your still the champ same day same track but he now holds several Benz records. What do you think of the 1.61 short time? I saw that slip , to me you guys hitting those numbers is most impressive. Your 60 ft times are insane.
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Ahmad, I was not making excuses why he did not run 10s.... Jim made changes and tweaks to the car since he ran at MIR. His car is literally getting faster every week What I am saying, however, is that if he runs his car in it's exact same state as it ran yesterday, then we can reasonably expect his run of 11.04 at 72 F and a DA of +1900 ft to easily correct down to high 10s in a -2000 ft environment and 40 F temps in one of the best prepped tracks in the world Would you say that this prediction is too wishful or un-imaginable? I personally don't think it is that much far fetched at all.....
What I am saying, however, is that if he runs his car in it's exact same state as it ran yesterday, then we can reasonably expect his run of 11.04 at 72 F and a DA of +1900 ft to easily correct down to high 10s in a -2000 ft environment and 40 F temps in one of the best prepped tracks in the world Would you say that this prediction is too wishful or un-imaginable? I personally don't think it is that much far fetched at all.....Those of us who have been to the track on a 37 degree day with killer air know that you are trading power for traction.
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I "think" what he is trying to say is that you cant call any car a 10-sec car based on what it "could have" achieve in a different environment, elevation, temp, etc,etc,etc. His whole point is that a 10 sec car is a 10 sec car when it runs a 10 sec et. No matter what conditions it ran under.
Correct me if Im wrong Ahmad, but this is what I understood from you in one of my threads last month and this one.
Correct me if Im wrong Ahmad, but this is what I understood from you in one of my threads last month and this one.
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While the car should definitely be in the 10's, I think you are overlooking the correlation between engine power and traction problems. If he needs to lift at the 1/8 again because he is breaking traction on a 37 degree day, the negative DA isn't going to help him that much. I think he wants a nice 50 degree day with a high barometer. Colder than that, and he will probably run worse.
Those of us who have been to the track on a 37 degree day with killer air know that you are trading power for traction.
Those of us who have been to the track on a 37 degree day with killer air know that you are trading power for traction.
Excellent point Lorenzo.
He definately hit a wall at 11.04-11.1 127-129.8. But he ran consistant. Likely needed longer cool down and 10-15 degrees less. for tens.
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Hey Josh, Here is a funny thing I just found out, I was running 91 octane tune all day and broke all the CLS NON NOS & NOS records I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records..
So with the 100 octane tune 
My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back
You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do
My car has much more in it Getting ready for MIR 
ABig Thanks to James at ACG in San Diego CA for getting me the Renntech Tuning BLOCK. Guys give him a call to order yours. He is the only one that can get it . Thanks Man, You shop is top notch
I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records.. So with the 100 octane tune My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back
You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do My car has much more in it
Getting ready for MIR ABig Thanks to James at ACG in San Diego CA for getting me the Renntech Tuning BLOCK. Guys give him a call to order yours. He is the only one that can get it . Thanks Man, You shop is top notch
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While the car should definitely be in the 10's, I think you are overlooking the correlation between engine power and traction problems. If he needs to lift at the 1/8 again because he is breaking traction on a 37 degree day, the negative DA isn't going to help him that much. I think he wants a nice 50 degree day with a high barometer. Colder than that, and he will probably run worse.
Those of us who have been to the track on a 37 degree day with killer air know that you are trading power for traction.
Those of us who have been to the track on a 37 degree day with killer air know that you are trading power for traction.
I understand what you're saying about very cold temps and agree that there will be some type of compromise between the two but definitely not an equal one. I also believe the gains from the cold air, low DA, and decent track prep out weighs the loss in traction (not an equal compromise). Even in cold weather, MIR does a better job (in general) prepping the track to compensate a little bit for the cold temps than Famoso ever will. Jim's car only needs 0.05 seconds to be in the 10s. A 4000 ft drop in DA even with bad traction should easily net him high 10s
Lets say for example, we take a car that ran at MIR, maybe Ahmad's...... if we take his car and run it in +2000 ft DA and 72 F temps, would it still run 11s flat because the better temps compensate for the +4000 ft difference? I just don't think so..... I believe it would run at about 0.1 to 0.2 slower even with slightly better traction.
Anyways, MIR is coming up again and if Jim joins you guys, it'll be a good opportunity to test all these scenarios
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I am not saying his car ran 10s or even should've ran 10s at Famoso..... all I'm saying is that his car (in its current state) is more than capable of running high 10s in slightly better conditions let alone at MIR conditions.
I understand what you're saying about very cold temps and agree that there will be some type of compromise between the two but definitely not equal. I also believe the gains from the cold air, low DA, and decent track prep out weighs the loss in traction (not an equal compromise). Even in cold weather, MIR does a better job (in general) prepping the track to compensate a little bit for the cold temps than Famoso ever will. Jim's car only needs 0.05 seconds to be in the 10s. A 4000 ft drop in DA even with bad traction should easily net him high 10s
Lets say for example, we take a car that ran at MIR, maybe Ahmad's...... if we take his car and run it in +2000 ft DA and 72 F temps, would it still run 11s flat because the better temps would compensate for the +4000 ft difference? I just don't think so..... I believe it would run at about 0.1 to 0.2 slower even with slightly better traction.
Anyways, MIR is coming up again and if Jim joins you guys, it'll be a good opportunity to test all these scenarios
I understand what you're saying about very cold temps and agree that there will be some type of compromise between the two but definitely not equal. I also believe the gains from the cold air, low DA, and decent track prep out weighs the loss in traction (not an equal compromise). Even in cold weather, MIR does a better job (in general) prepping the track to compensate a little bit for the cold temps than Famoso ever will. Jim's car only needs 0.05 seconds to be in the 10s. A 4000 ft drop in DA even with bad traction should easily net him high 10s
Lets say for example, we take a car that ran at MIR, maybe Ahmad's...... if we take his car and run it in +2000 ft DA and 72 F temps, would it still run 11s flat because the better temps would compensate for the +4000 ft difference? I just don't think so..... I believe it would run at about 0.1 to 0.2 slower even with slightly better traction.
Anyways, MIR is coming up again and if Jim joins you guys, it'll be a good opportunity to test all these scenarios
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Hey Josh, Here is a funny thing I just found out, I was running 91 octane tune all day and broke all the CLS NON NOS & NOS records I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records.. So with the 100 octane tune
My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do
My car has much more in it Getting ready for MIR
I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records.. So with the 100 octane tune My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back
You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do My car has much more in it
Getting ready for MIR
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Hey Josh, Here is a funny thing I just found out, I was running 91 octane tune all day and broke all the CLS NON NOS & NOS records I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records.. So with the 100 octane tune
My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do
My car has much more in it Getting ready for MIR
ABig Thanks to James at ACG in San Diego CA for getting me the Renntech Tuning BLOCK. Guys give him a call to order yours. He is the only one that can get it . Thanks Man, You shop is top notch
I do have the RENNTECH "BLOCK HAND HELD TUNER" and it has the 100 octane tune. I thought I was running the 100 tune but NO it was the 91, lol The last time at Famoso I was running a stock ECU and broke the records.. So with the 100 octane tune My run with Jim at 9:47 am
Jim= 11.65 (NOS)
Me= 11.97 (NON NOS) 91 octane tune
RENNTECH'S TUNING TOOL "THE BLOCK" will change the tunning world as we know it for the 63's. Plug "THE BLOCK" into your OBD11 install your tune, then leave it plugged in, do some runs, email the data to RennTech, they make sure it's all great and make some tweaks if need be, then they email it back
You plug "THE BLOCK" back in and down load your new file it's that easy and it only takes seconds to do My car has much more in it
Getting ready for MIR ABig Thanks to James at ACG in San Diego CA for getting me the Renntech Tuning BLOCK. Guys give him a call to order yours. He is the only one that can get it . Thanks Man, You shop is top notch
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