W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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yea, we're supposely gonna have a rematch this weekend, so lets see whats gonna happend then, cause his 335i is pretty fast... i was surprised i won.
he wil probably change his map to race gas.. or what they call dooms day or turbo melter or what ever is called today..

he probably will find some 100 oct ..

with that setup.. he will pull you.. atleast according to some of the trap speeds I have seen with JB3 race map and race gas.

I have nothing but respect for the n54 engine.. just sometimes the post I read on the other side seem to be very one sided.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Nice kill! 335i is still a nice car Yea, he will probably have a race tune on race gas for ya next time around. Please post up the vid no matter what the outcome is, thanks!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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Can you get some RACE gas and make a difference too?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Nice kill.
But in the video description it says "E55 has a tune"? If so, then its not bone stock.

A "tuned"(pulley or not) 55k will walk away from a "Bone stock" 55k.

Just want to clearify that before anyone with a stock 55k going out there thinking they can pull on a stage III 335. Its not going to happen.


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Can you get some RACE gas and make a difference too?
Race gas is a waste of money if you don't have the proper tune for it.
Most N54 softwares carries more than one map that the drive can switch from. Pump gas, mixed gas, and full race gas.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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It is actually bone stock with exhaust, I wouldn't consider it a tune since it was only a private mb shop that messed with the ecu a bit, nowhere near a vrp or evo tune, not to worry, most is 5hp gains.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Nice kill... AMG POWAAA
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
yea, we're supposely gonna have a rematch this weekend, so lets see whats gonna happend then, cause his 335i is pretty fast... i was surprised i won.
YO! next time you race lemme drive your car,sure we would win! 100lbs less than ur weight! no passenger, just me..hahaha

Nice kill fatboi...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
It is actually bone stock with exhaust, I wouldn't consider it a tune since it was only a private mb shop that messed with the ecu a bit, nowhere near a vrp or evo tune, not to worry, most is 5hp gains.
if they used the star sys to mess with the timing and octante settings... that is not a tune.

very little you can do.. without actually flashing the ECU.

A real tune will change AFR, timing, load %, bypass valve %, speed limiter, ect..

I would not call it a tune either.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Nice KILL!

If you listen for that distinct BMW chime at 21 seconds that usually means the display is reading a "Engine Malfunction Reduce Power" warning. The 135/335/535 eat turbos and have shown fuel pumps failing pretty often especially after beating the snot out of it regularly.

They run very well but have a myriad of problems. Stick to the MB's!

That BMS stuff basically disables the safety parameters that BMW puts in this engine's DME by repinning quite a few wires in the harness.

Post up the rematch video!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tuningtechnician
If you listen for that distinct BMW chime at 21 seconds that usually means the display is reading a "Engine Malfunction Reduce Power" warning. The 135/335/535 eat turbos and have shown fuel pumps failing pretty often especially after beating the snot out of it regularly.

They run very well but have a myriad of problems. Stick to the MB's!

That BMS stuff basically disables the safety parameters that BMW puts in this engine's DME by repinning quite a few wires in the harness.

Post up the rematch video!
Yup, fuel pump and wastegates are common problems on these cars. Heard of quite a few blown turbos.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Thats sick. Good stuff.

I had an encounter with a 335 the other day that definitely had some work done.. His car sounded mean. Granted there were 3 other guys in my car and he was alone, the guy started passing me at about 50mph

If I was alone, it would have been a different story
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
if they used the star sys to mess with the timing and octante settings... that is not a tune.

very little you can do.. without actually flashing the ECU.

A real tune will change AFR, timing, load %, bypass valve %, speed limiter, ect..

I would not call it a tune either.
I am the owner of the 335i in that vid. I was told by Steven that the MB shop who messed with his ecu changed the afr by making it richer. So in theory several other settings would have been adjusted also...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tuningtechnician
If you listen for that distinct BMW chime at 21 seconds that usually means the display is reading a "Engine Malfunction Reduce Power" warning. The 135/335/535 eat turbos and have shown fuel pumps failing pretty often especially after beating the snot out of it regularly.
Actually that was my little speed limit chime. I have it set at 100mph
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zingzang23
Thats sick. Good stuff.

I had an encounter with a 335 the other day that definitely had some work done.. His car sounded mean. Granted there were 3 other guys in my car and he was alone, the guy started passing me at about 50mph

If I was alone, it would have been a different story
Was this encounter in Tampa or Orlando by any chance?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Was this encounter in Tampa or Orlando by any chance?
No not in Orlando, it was in Palm Beach Gardens on PGA Blvd heading West towards the Turnpike from Military Trail...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1clean335i
Was this encounter in Tampa or Orlando by any chance?

this weekend ill be busy... you'll never get a chance to beat me... neverrrrrrr
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
this weekend ill be busy... you'll never get a chance to beat me... neverrrrrrr
i know where you work.. hahaha
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Sounds right to me.. Good Kill! Your E55 is practically stock. Exhaust doesn't add much to your car. I have worked on many 335's and installed piggy backs on them, catless downpipes, intakes, etc..

Stock N54's boost about 7 psi stock. And with a piggy back alone you can go up to around 15 psi. I have seen one that was boosting 18 psi. The race gas allows these cars to run a much more aggressive map and higher boost levels. These are great little cars IMO. The quickest of them runs high 11s on race gas and drag radials to my knowledge. The majority of the modded jb3 or vishnu 335's can run mid to low 12s.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I've ran the 335i w/J3 + race-map + Torco, very fast competitor though when I added Torco to my 600 it was lights out on the 335i by multi lengths in frwy roll-ons
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
yea, we're supposely gonna have a rematch this weekend, so lets see whats gonna happend then, cause his 335i is pretty fast... i was surprised i won.
make sure to keep those IAT temp in check before the race, couple bags of ice on the engine cover may help, LOL
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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that wont be neccesary, orlando have been cold this past week.. like 26 degrees tonight
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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The 335 does better from 0-80mph, the turbo's are small and gearing works against it , rolling from 40 mph is taking away the cat quickness of the bimmer. so yeah you should beat a modded 335 from a roll . You would be trailing that car 0-60mph after 60 the reel in begins from 80-120 you should be pulling away. Fun stuff, itys actually a very good match up
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